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by pittmirg
Tue 12 Sep 2017, 19:14
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Hypothetical Slavic passive
Replies: 11
Views: 1139

Re: Hypothetical Slavic passive

The Proto-Slavic dialectal 3rd person ending -tъ might continue the PIE middle -to, depending on what you believe the Slavic outcome of PIE o# should be. Your reconstruction *beretrь looks as good as could be. Not *beretьr, though? Proto-Slavic had things like *tьr, 2-3sg aorist of *terti, from *tr-...
by pittmirg
Mon 31 Jul 2017, 10:47
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Don't know if you mean that, but in Australia there was a "secret language" (de facto a cipher) among the Dyurbal people that was only taught a few men. Nah, I'm pretty sure it was in Asia, not in Australia. The speakers were supposedly nomadic shepherds or sth like that. Could be something Wikiped...
by pittmirg
Mon 24 Jul 2017, 17:42
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I vaguely remember there was some obscure language in SW Asia (Iran or thereabouts) that was supposedly spoken only by men. Or at least there was some striking gender division in its usage. What was that?
by pittmirg
Sun 29 Jan 2017, 11:42
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Bornholm in old Scandinavian / Buyan Island
Replies: 13
Views: 1380

Re: Bornholm in old Scandinavian / Buyan Island

Well interestingly, I found a source that suggests that Bornholm is Buyan http://denmark-travel.com/cities/island-bornholm "The island of Bornholm is located in the Baltic Sea, just between Sweden and Poland. In ancient legends Bornholm supposedly was called for the island Buyan." Most other source...
by pittmirg
Fri 27 Jan 2017, 14:31
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Bornholm in old Scandinavian / Buyan Island
Replies: 13
Views: 1380

Re: Bornholm in old Scandinavian / Buyan Island

Also pleophony? Does that fit? /rj/ would always be treated as a syllable onset and thus be immune to pleophony or metathesis, cf. *morjǫ 'I cause the death (of), I famish' → Russian морю, Polish morzę, not **морою, **mroję. Something like, say, [ɹɣ] could presumably sound a bit like /j/ to a Slavi...
by pittmirg
Wed 25 Jan 2017, 23:28
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Bornholm in old Scandinavian / Buyan Island
Replies: 13
Views: 1380

Re: Bornholm in old Scandinavian / Buyan Island

Wikipedia mentions several old names: Borgundarholm in Old Norse, Borghand~Borghund in 'ancient Danish', Burgendaland, Burgundehulm, Borghandæholm (in I dunno what) and finally the Old English Burgenda land . But with a plosive [g] (if that's how they were pronounced) they seem too distant phonetic...
by pittmirg
Sun 22 Jan 2017, 21:06
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Bornholm in old Scandinavian / Buyan Island
Replies: 13
Views: 1380

Bornholm in old Scandinavian / Buyan Island

It appears this board has quite a few North Germanic-speaking members so I'll give this a shot. I'm currently researching some East Slavic ethnographic stuff and I'd find very helpful if I could figure out the etymology of certain mysterious names that show up in folk songs, tales and spells. Among ...
by pittmirg
Wed 21 Dec 2016, 11:17
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Another question for Slavicists: Why is the name "Nicholas" taken in with an <m> in many Slavic languages? E.g. Mykola in Ukrainian. The form with an initial M is also said to exist in rural Russian. Uspenskiy: 1) can't be explained in terms of historical phonetics 2) the n → m change is also attes...
by pittmirg
Sat 17 Dec 2016, 00:28
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Ælfwine wrote:Did East Slavic pleophony affect yat? (ѣ?)

So like sequences ѣR > ѣRѣ?
No, because ěR. wasn't even an allowed sequence to begin with. Only the short vowels e, o, ь, ъ could combine with a r/l coda.
by pittmirg
Fri 12 Aug 2016, 10:02
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 732
Views: 55066

Re: English Orthography Reform

Here's the thing, that's partially wrong. Let's look at the old English and Middle English cognates love < love/lufe < lufu [tick] wonder < wonder/wunder < wundor [tick] mother <moder < mōdor [cross] month < month/moneth < monaþ [cross] other < other < ōþer [cross] brother < brother < brōþor [cross...
by pittmirg
Wed 15 Jun 2016, 10:08
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

CSl. č, šč, žǯ → Russian alveopalatals [t͡ɕ ɕː ʑː]* , CSl. š, ž → Russian retroflexes/depalatalized postalveolars. This can be compared to Polish, where all of them became depalatalized postalveolars. Also in Russian CSl. tj, dj** merged with CSl. č, ž, respectively. *in case of the long fricatives,...
by pittmirg
Sat 28 May 2016, 11:11
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Otchestvo in Gothic language
Replies: 4
Views: 518

Re: Otchestvo in Gothic language

I'd be surprised if it were much different from the patronymics used in other Germanic langs (i.e. name.GEN + -son/-daughter, Guðmundsson, Guðmundsdóttir). But let people who actually know something about Gothic speak.
by pittmirg
Mon 16 May 2016, 16:21
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Thanks to all for the examples! In any language, is there a phoneme that only occurs in one grammatical morpheme? I may be misunderstanding what you intended "grammatical morpheme" to mean, and I'm no expert on the language in question, but I believe I've read at least a few times that /ɫ/ only occu...
by pittmirg
Fri 13 May 2016, 23:33
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

In any language, is there a phoneme that only occurs in one grammatical morpheme?
by pittmirg
Wed 11 May 2016, 16:45
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm sort of getting this. /*o/ is short, right? Right. The main issue is that the notation of Proto-Slavic is heavily influenced by Old Church Slavonic orthography and can thus be misleading. Something like "*storna" (Ru. сторона) is anachronistic because at the stage when liquid codas still existe...
by pittmirg
Fri 06 May 2016, 21:20
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Hangulisation of Polish
Replies: 22
Views: 1301

Re: Hangulisation of Polish

You lost me here. I would never interpret [lɛ͂k] as /lɛk/ - I would interpret it as someone affecting a French accent or something. (For all you non-Poles on the thread, the typical pronunciation of <lęk> is [lɛŋk].) Well, to me [lɛ͂k] with a pure nasal vowel just sounds like "lek" said by somebody...
by pittmirg
Wed 04 May 2016, 15:49
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Hangulisation of Polish
Replies: 22
Views: 1301

Re: Hangulisation of Polish

Interesting. Would clusters like /ɕ.j/ be possible across morpheme boundaries, such as in compound words? Or does this situation never occur? I found a couple of compound words on Wikipedia where the first element was ćwierć, but none of them had a second element that started with j. As opposed to ...
by pittmirg
Tue 03 May 2016, 23:05
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Hangulisation of Polish
Replies: 22
Views: 1301

Re: Hangulisation of Polish

ć, ź, ś, sounds though differently than ci, zi, si I assure you they don't. They are as different as French ç and s or German tt and dt. Exceptions are few: a handful of borrowings like sinus where "si" is [si] and certain prefixed verbs like ziścić where "zi" can be [zi] (it can also be [s?i] with...
by pittmirg
Sun 01 May 2016, 21:14
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Hangulisation of Polish
Replies: 22
Views: 1301

Re: Hangulisation of Polish

Hangul strikes me as not particularly suited to write languages with big consonant clusters. You could come up with something, sure, but it's gonna be hard to make it elegant. OCS is easier to write with syllabic scripts (and probably syllable-block-based ones like the Korean script, too). Also, you...
by pittmirg
Fri 22 Apr 2016, 17:32
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6314
Views: 386762

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So *o was a rounded allophone of *a then? When did it split off? Nah, what I mean is that the primary distinction between *o and *a was length. Towards the end of Proto-Slavic, *o tended to become rounded across the Slavic territory but you can see the original unrounded value e.g. in the Greek rep...