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by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 21 Nov 2017, 15:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/p t k/ /b d g/ /ts tɬ/ /f s ɬ h/ /l ɾ/ /w j/ /a e i o u/ /ai̯ au̯/ Syllable structure is (C)V(n); coda /n/ may only appear word-medially and assimilates to the place of the following consonant. Historically, there was a shift /i u e o/ > /ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ/ > /e o ai̯ au̯/ before coda /n/; this was phonemici...
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 21 Nov 2017, 07:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 9
Views: 434

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Idea: A language with a series of particles grammaticalized from interjections, all used in the construction “[particle] the one who [predicate]”, e.g. o the one who is holy ‘I revere the one who is holy’ / ‘the one who is holy is revered’ ai the one who lives there ‘I wish I were the one who lives ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 20 Nov 2017, 05:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Padmaran
Replies: 6
Views: 135

Re: Padmaran

Wow, great work! I really like the decorative boxes to the side; they very much remind me of the kinds of symbols used in calligraphic representations of Quranic passages. What's the meaning of the symbols in the boxes?
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 19 Nov 2017, 04:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Again, not an inventory, but a series of changes. This time it's this idea I've had for a while for developing pitch-accent: Very simply, ˈV > ˈV́ ˈV́C₁əC₁ > ˈV̂C₁ That is, initially, by default, primary stressed syllables have high tone. However, in ˈVC₁əC₁ sequences, such as [ˈleɹəɹ] [ˈkanən] [ˈfu...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 18 Nov 2017, 06:39
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Hmm... add /kʷ/? b t t͡ʃ k kʷ m r ŋ w Ta-dah! Perfect! [<3] I'm also tempted to consider adding a long /aː/ to the vowel system as well. Hm, I kind of like how the vowel inventory is set up now, since it looks like it evolved from /i iː u uː a aː/ (that is, to /ɨ iː u uː a ɔː/) And the consonant in...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 16 Nov 2017, 05:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/p t~ɾ s x/ /pː tː t͡s kː/ /m n ŋ/ /mː nː ŋː/ /w j/ /i iː u uː/ /e eː o oː/ /æ æː ɑ ɑː/ Syllable structure is CV. Additionally, geminate consonants are not found word-initially, and /t/ is realised as [ɾ] intervocalically. Hm. I'm imagining some kind of case system marked largely through mutation o...
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 15 Nov 2017, 15:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2627
Views: 134408

Re: Yay or Nay?

Relatedly, Ælfwine, do you have a thread or some page about Mannish? It looks interesting; I'd like to see more about it.
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 13 Nov 2017, 03:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 9
Views: 434

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Concept: A language where most of the vocabulary is made up of phonaesthetic or onomatopoeic bound bases; thus, a given word will be a compound of two non-separable elements, each suggesting some quality or phenomenon, placed in juxtaposition to provide the overall meaning of the word. For example, ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 10 Nov 2017, 00:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Just a series of sound changes I came up with, based on various languages, including, loosely, some changes in my variety of AmEng: Starting from /a e i o u/ /aː eː iː oː uː/ e o realized as ɛ ɔ aː > oː > uː > ɨu̯ eː > iː > ai̯ i u > ə ə ɨu̯ ai̯ > ɨu̯k͜xʷ ai̯c͜ç / _# ɨu̯R ai̯R > ɨu̯ɨR ai̯aR / _$ Con...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 06 Nov 2017, 05:24
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I didn't say anything before, but I think this setup is pretty nifty. The fact that some syllables are essentially the same except for the gemination effects (as well as them be related to schwa), is pretty cool. I'm a fan of the idea! I still plan to remake/revive one of my languages again sometim...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 04 Nov 2017, 18:37
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 9
Views: 434

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

A further elaboration on this idea /mʷ m̼ n nʷ ɲ~ŋ̟ ŋ̠ʷ/ /pʷ p̼ t ts tʃʷ c~k̟ k̠ʷ/ /fʷ f̼ s ʃʷ ç~x̟ x̠ʷ/ /vʷ v̼ r rʷ ʝ~ɣ̟ w̠/ /l ɫʷ/ As you can see, every consonant is part of a rounded-unrounded pair. Except for the labials, all the rounded consonants are further back, too. /t/ and /ts/ are both co...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 04 Nov 2017, 06:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I like how you’ve reduced the vowel inventory. And having ɰ rather than w is a nice twist. If (and this applies only if) you’re going for Mohawk/Oneida style phonotactics, what is the reason you choose to define n̥ j̊ ɹ̥ ɰ̊ as phonemes? In those languages these would be analysed as hn hj etc. Perha...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 04 Nov 2017, 05:58
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Thinking about Iroquoian stuff today

/t k kʷ ʔ/ <t k q x>
/s h/ <s h>
/n j ɹ ɰ/ <n y r w>
/n̥ j̊ ɹ̥ ɰ̊/ <ṅ ẏ ṙ ẇ>

/a e i o ʌ̃/ <a e i o u>
/eː iː oː ʌ̃ː/ <ee ii oo uu>
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 02 Nov 2017, 03:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 9
Views: 434

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Possible vocab (from the Swadesh list) for the three-vowel Romance language idea I’ve got. Singular and plural listed for nouns. I: ju you: tu he: il she: ilu we (m): nutud we (f): nutudi you (p, m/f): vu you (p, m): vutud you (p, f): vutudi they (m): iltud they (f): iltudi father: padri, par mother...
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 01 Nov 2017, 00:56
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 9
Views: 434

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Infinitive + present indicative paradigm for “run”, “marry”, and “sleep” in a three-vowel Romance language which I might make (stress indicated with acute): ɪɴғ: kur·í, marid·á, durm·í 1s: kúr·u, maríd·u, duárm·u 2s: kur, maríd, durm 3s: kúr·i, maríd·u, duárm·i 1ᴘ: kur·ím, marid·ám, durm·ím 2ᴘ: kur·...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 30 Oct 2017, 00:56
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4698
Views: 293519

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I came up with an idea for a certain kind of contrast: Dental/alveolar vs. labialized palatoalveolar plus, potentially, vs. palatal. The labialized palatoalveolar would be slightly retroflex but the main contrast would be the labialization - specifically, roundedness. I'm imagining a consonant inven...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 29 Oct 2017, 15:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 9
Views: 434

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Looks a lot more than inflectional classes. There could be a 1:1 correspondence with inflectional class, but not necessarily. E.g. in the Romance variety I was inspired by, there are masculine nouns (which thus take masculine agreement) that have a singular in -u and a plural in -i , and some that ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 29 Oct 2017, 02:13
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 9
Views: 434

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

A thing I made - https://i.imgur.com/Fgwr0UZ.png After reading about a certain Romance variety with 4 genders, and keeping in mind some stuff about Bantu noun classes, I imagined a language that had a bunch of different noun classes, where each noun was pluralized by reassigning it to a different no...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 29 Oct 2017, 00:01
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Non-English Orthography Reform
Replies: 270
Views: 24979

Re: Non-English Orthography Reform

I don't know if this has been shared here before, but back in the 1800s there was a phonetic script created by Protestant missionaries in China for Shanghainese, which was later expanded to accommodate Mandarin and other dialects. Here are a few images: https://oldchinesebooks.files.wordpress.com/20...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 28 Oct 2017, 07:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13090
Views: 582209

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

And what are some environments that cause vowels to shorten other than closed syllables and, conversely, what are environments that lengthen vowels other than open syllables, stress, and compensatory lengthening? I wonder if there are also consonants that change based on the length of vowels. Short...