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by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 13 Nov 2018, 22:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/m n ŋ/ m n g
/p t k ʔ/ p t k h

/a e i o u/ a e i o u

(C)V(ʔ/N)

/ʔ/ may not appear syllable-initially
Stress is lexical

/m n ŋ/ neutralize in coda
/ʔ/ completely assimilates to following consonant
p t k > b d g / N_
p t k > f s x / V́_V
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 01 Nov 2018, 21:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/m ŋ ɴ/ /p k q ʔ/ /β̞ ɣ̞ ʁ̞ h/ /i a u/ [e o] (C)V[ʔ/h] Initial stress. Uvulars trigger rightward backness/height harmony, turning /ŋ k ɣ̞/ into /ɴ q ʁ̞/ and lowering /i u/ to [e o] until blocked by a labial. /pahiqu/ + /ŋiʔ/ + /ɣ̞i/ > [pahiqoɴeʔʁ̞e] Alternative version: [m ŋ ɴ] /p k q ʔ/ /β̞ ɣ̞ ʁ̞ h...
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 31 Oct 2018, 22:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 20
Views: 2698

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

ajidá lavyéki ‘the old city’ ajidá e savyéki ‘the city is old’ anachidá ‘to some cities’ mbáza mvyéki ‘an old sparrow’ anopáza novyéki ‘to some old sparrows’ opáza so novyéki ‘the sparrows are old’ evyéki ‘the old one’ dumvyéki ‘of an old one’ anovyéki ‘to some old ones’ etené savyéki ‘she becomes ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 30 Oct 2018, 06:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Since no one else has replied, I'll say it: It's horrifying, and brilliant. Horrifying in an impressive way. It's very creative, and though I can't imagine a way for such a system to arise naturally, it doesn't seem beyond the pale that such a structure could be acquired mostly intact by a child lea...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 28 Oct 2018, 18:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Oh yeah, you're right, I wasn't thinking of African or European type height harmony systems. I was thinking of a completely bifurcated height system, like with two groups /i u ə/ and /e o a/, which is apparently attested in some Mayan language, IIRC. As for transparent and opaque vowels - I guess fo...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 28 Oct 2018, 17:06
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Btw, I really appreciate people putting effort in things other than phoneme inventories. Thanks! Could you elaborate on how you would imagine them to work? I am not used to this way of writing down vowel harmony. E.g. Does A mean that each word can either have only /i e/ or only /e a/ or only /u o/...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 28 Oct 2018, 04:37
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Four frontness/height-based vowel harmony systems: A /i e a o u/ Front/high: /i e/ Front/low: /e a/ Back/high: /u o/ Back/low: /o a/ (in accordance with the convention I use for D below, you could also describe it as...) /i e¹ e² a o¹ o² u/ Front/high: /i e¹/ Front/low: /e² a/ Back/high: /u o¹/ Back...
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 23 Oct 2018, 21:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 20
Views: 2698

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Actually, putting this here, too, since it ended up being a more developed version of the idea I just posted. This version also includes possible definite plural forms: /p t k/ /b d g/ /s h/ /r l/ /w j/ /i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː (ə)/ Initial stress Some words: oːk 'dog' na oːk 'the dog' oːkd 'dogs' ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 23 Oct 2018, 20:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/p t k/ /b d g/ /s h/ /r l/ /w j/ /i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː (ə)/ Initial stress Some words: oːk 'dog' na oːk 'the dog' oːkd 'dogs' kim 'cat' na kim 'the cat' kimd 'cats' heːb 'son' na heːb 'the son' heːbd 'sons' kud 'man' na kud 'the man' kudəd 'men' - Nasal assimilation - Progressive voicing assimi...
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 23 Oct 2018, 04:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 20
Views: 2698

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Messing around with some alternations inspired by English and other things - imagine a language with a plural -g and begadkefat-type spirantization, with some other developments in the meantime baʔ - baɣ naðð - naθk namm - naŋk haxx - haxk loo - looɣ pii - piiɣ naað - naθk seeβ - seɸk huux - huxk ka...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 22 Oct 2018, 21:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Collaborative Conlang Evolution
Replies: 6
Views: 449

Re: Collaborative Conlang Evolution

I'll vote.
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 21 Oct 2018, 21:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14245
Views: 975117

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

The vowel harmony system would probably just cease to be productive. Suffixes displaying alternations would likely just remain as they are, at least initially, but newly-derived words, or newly-adopted loanwords, would probably just take one of the variants by default, or would take one of them depe...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 21 Oct 2018, 20:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14245
Views: 975117

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Basically what people are saying is that it's implausible for any sound change or series of sound changes to cause a language to not have any stop consonants. Languages have stop consonants, period. Or well, real-life languages do, anyways. With a conlang you're free to do what you want - but, when ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 19 Oct 2018, 06:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

What were the sound changes for each of those versions? I'm curious, especially with that single stop series.
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 15 Oct 2018, 22:06
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lapdeutsch
Replies: 23
Views: 2293

Re: Lapdeutsch

Looking forward to more!

What happens to the Germanic strong and weak adjective inflections?
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 08 Oct 2018, 00:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14245
Views: 975117

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Dhoan will feature allophonic, word-initial length distinction. As of now, it only affects one syllable words, like anx [ɑ̟̃ːx]. Is this or all word-initial vowels being lengthened more natural? Well, firstly, if it's just allophonic, it's not a distinction. Your phrasing tripped me up there. You c...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 06 Oct 2018, 01:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14245
Views: 975117

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Also, it depends on when the sound change happened - before or after the orthography was established. If the orthography was established before the sound change, it would likely just keep using the same symbols as before, but with the shifted sound values. So we might see: þ = [θ] s = [s] s θ > ʃ s ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 02 Oct 2018, 05:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 5076
Views: 499180

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I tried to start a voting-based collaborative conlang on Tumblr but I let it die when I realized everyone was just voting for the weirdest thing possible, resulting the following constraints on the phonology: - No more than 14 consonants - Glottal stop - No voicing distinctions - A uvular stop and a...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 30 Sep 2018, 06:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14245
Views: 975117

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm thinkin of making a conlang that uses ablaut, but I'm not sure how to make a naturalistic ablaut system. What is ablaut usually used for? Inflection, derivation, something else? If one word with a certain vowel undergoes ablaut, do all other words with that vowel usually undergo ablaut as well?...
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 28 Sep 2018, 02:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14245
Views: 975117

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Norse developing consonant mutations is perfectly plausible (with the appropriate sound changes), and I imagine they might pick up some of the grammatical work that was handled by the inflections which are/were apparently getting worn off due to contact with Gaelic. And really, the consonant mutatio...