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by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 17 Jan 2018, 06:13
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 11
Views: 683

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

I made this today. Might edit or expand: ken /kɛn/ “he/she/it runs” kene /kɛnə/ “running/a run” kêne /kinə/ “I run” kînen /kinən/ “you (sg) run” hit /hɪt/ “he/she/it falls” hize /hɪtsə/ “falling/a fall” hîte /hitə/ “I fall” hîten /hitən/ “you (sg) fall” sob /sɔb/ “he/she/it breathes” sobe /sɔbə/ “br...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 04 Jan 2018, 17:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4776
Views: 324942

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I get p > /N_ but why would /g/ get devoiced? It doesn't make much sense unless there is some context to this I'm missing. The second rule is also a bit weird. It's probably g p > ɣ ɸ > h h, right? I guess it makes sense in a minimalist phonology with few fricatives. But I'm still a bit iffy about ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 04 Jan 2018, 07:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4776
Views: 324942

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Small sound shift idea:

g p > k b /N_
g p > h h

Optionally:
r w > g b
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 02 Jan 2018, 19:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13358
Views: 646545

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Is it at all reasonable to have words contract in place names, when they otherwise wouldn't? Mostly to avoid place names becoming too lengthy. E.g. taisat - new phalas - river Taiphlas - (name of a place - 'New River') So there would be a closed set of abbreviated forms used only for compounding. T...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 23 Dec 2017, 07:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4776
Views: 324942

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A variation on a thing I've thought of before: /m n/ /p t k (ʔ)/ /s/ /ɾ l j w/ /a e i o u/ Syllable structure is (C(R))V(C). R represents the resonants /ɾ l j w/, which may follow a syllable-initial obstruent. Cross-syllabic sequences /j.j/ and /w.w/ are automatically reduced to /.j/ and /.w/ Coda n...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 17 Dec 2017, 04:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Conlang I'm starting to make
Replies: 2
Views: 189

Re: Conlang I'm starting to make

I like that's there's /v/ without /f/. Looking forward to more.
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 15 Dec 2017, 06:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4776
Views: 324942

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A historical thing I might use sometime: Word-final homorganic /NT/ and /ND/ clusters exist; there are allomorphic alternations between the two (e.g. klent / klend ), owing to the addition of a vocalic suffix that triggered voicing (or blocked word-final devoicing) and was later dropped. /mp nt ŋk/ ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 09 Dec 2017, 04:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4776
Views: 324942

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I came up with a phonology sketch based on an auto-generated map from @unchartedatlas on Twitter. /i y u/ <i ü u> /e ø o/ <e ö o> /æ a/ <ä a> /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /t q ʔ/ <t q '> /b d/ <b d> /t͜ɬ t͜ʃ/ <tl ch> /v s ʃ x/ <v s sh kh> /l r/ <l r> /w j/ <w y> Syllable structure is (S)CVC, where C is any cons...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 04 Dec 2017, 20:36
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4776
Views: 324942

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A vowel system: /i u/ /ə/ /ɛ ɔ/ Stress is word-initial. There is a system of vowel harmony, termed "feature harmony": Every vowel in a word must share at least one distinctive feature (height or backness/rounding) with the first vowel in the word. That is, words with initial /u/ may also contain /i ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 04 Dec 2017, 03:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Stoplang scratchpad
Replies: 5
Views: 315

Re: Stoplang scratchpad

Looks nice so far. I like the fairly simple aesthetic of its phonology. What were the conditions for the dropping of the unpronounced word-internal and word-final vowels? Cause it looks like not all got dropped. Or if the unpronounced vowels are just orthographic echo vowels, what determines the cho...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 03 Dec 2017, 07:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13358
Views: 646545

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Well, I think wrt the issue of romanization, regardless of the nature of tone as a phenomenon it would be redundant to mark both tones in a two-tone system - e.g. <kèlág ósóma mìpì ìrtámbá> tells you exactly nothing more than either <kelág ósóma mipi irtámbá> or <kèlag osoma mìpì ìrtamba> (regardles...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 02 Dec 2017, 07:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4776
Views: 324942

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I was sketching out something but I'm not done with it yet; one interesting thing I thought of is how if you had vowel sandhi but then had a vowel/shift merger the sandhi process could lead to some interesting and unexpected outcomes: e.g. /i/ + /e/ > /i/ and /u/ + /e/ > /o/, but then /u/ > /i/; lea...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 02 Dec 2017, 06:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13358
Views: 646545

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I don't think so. Diphthongs often tend to be longer than single vowels. Although, if you mean that there was an original /ee/ that stayed long but the new /e/ + /e/ just became /e/, that might be a little odd. I guess if you conceived of the rule not as /e/ + /e/ = /e/ but rather as "a vowel follow...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 18:11
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13358
Views: 646545

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Debuccalization of coda /s/ to /h/ (or /x/) and vocalization of the coda /h/ to /a/ is the simplest option.
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 07:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13358
Views: 646545

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Theoretically, yes, any consonant could undergo complete assimilation; essentially taking on all features of the consonant adjacent to it and retaining only its existence as a unit of length. E.g. amta > atta or abhu > ahhu. But complete assimilation is more "forceful" or "extreme", so it occurs les...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 06:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13358
Views: 646545

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Well, pretty much by any other way you get geminates, but just at the start of a syllable. Deletion of a word-initial vowel before a geminate: attama > ttama Deletion of vowels (due to whatever reason) between two already identical consonants: titama > ttama Assimilation of a cluster and then deleti...
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 29 Nov 2017, 07:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 11
Views: 683

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

I was thinking of some ideas for Lexember and I came up with a little thing. I might make it into more of a conlang, idk. /paˈin.o/ 'beautiful' (sɢ) < /paˈdi.no/ < /pad/ 'sight' (zero derivation of /pad/ 'see') + /ino/ '-ly' < /hino/ 'body' (or maybe 'face' or 'manner, behavior' or something) /peˈno...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 27 Nov 2017, 22:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13358
Views: 646545

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Wouldn't an alternative explanation for transparent etymologies in PIE but not later languages (alternative, or perhaps additional instead? to the replacement idea) simply be that we'd expect the default position to be transparent etymology (apart from a relatively small number of roots). At every ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 27 Nov 2017, 15:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13358
Views: 646545

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I have a question about derivational morphology, compounding, and transparency - I hope it makes sense. I often check the etymology of words (usually from IE languages) for inspiration as to how I could derive words. What I find is that often the derivation of a word from a PIE root is very transpa...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 27 Nov 2017, 08:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanization game
Replies: 3577
Views: 164160

Re: Romanization game

/m n~ŋ ɲ~ŋ/ <m n n'> /p b t d c ɟ k g/ <p b t d k' g' k g> /t͡s d͡z ʈ͡ʂ ɖ͡ʐ c͡ç ɟ͡ʝ/ <c x ch xh ch' xh'> /f v s z ʂ ʐ ɕː ʑː x ɣ/ <f v s z sh zh sh' zh' kh gh> /j ɾ r ɫ l ʎ/ <y r rr lh l l'> /i ɨ u/ <i ï u> or, to go out on a limb just to avoid diacritics, <i iw u> /e ɘ o/ <e ö o> or <e ow o> /ə/ <ë>...