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by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 30 Jan 2018, 07:49
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: A Curious Kind of English
Replies: 4
Views: 238

Re: A Curious Kind of English

All of those look very similar to the spelling reforms proposed by various authorities (and endorsed by some people, such as Theodore Roosevelt) in the US in the mid-to-late 19th and early 20th centuries. Spellings like thru now used only in abbreviations and advertisements are oftentimes remnants o...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 25 Jan 2018, 07:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13440
Views: 675222

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I’m trying to reverse-engineer a situation where some suffixes give roots initial stress and others shift the stress to the right. Like say you have a root kawm , and the suffix -ta produces káwmta , but the suffix -su produces kawmsú . I know that if I initially have a regular stress assignment rul...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 25 Jan 2018, 03:57
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 13
Views: 877

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

A different, more elaborated version of the same ablaut idea: In the initial stage the vowels are simply /i a u/, no length distinction. Syllables can have coda /j w h/; there are probably other coda consonants, but I am only addressing those three here. /h/ is the counterpart of /a/. Roots commonly...
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 24 Jan 2018, 01:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 13
Views: 877

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

An idea for some ablaut-ish alternations I came up with: (acute indicates stress)

kávdi / kudí < káwdi / kawdí

séfki / sukí < séwki / sewkí

táʃpu / tipú < tájpu / tajpú

múʒne / miné < mújne / mujné

And maybe:

kómpta / kũtá < kómta / komtá

sílma / somá < sílma / silmá
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 17 Jan 2018, 06:13
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 13
Views: 877

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

I made this today. Might edit or expand: ken /kɛn/ “he/she/it runs” kene /kɛnə/ “running/a run” kêne /kinə/ “I run” kînen /kinən/ “you (sg) run” hit /hɪt/ “he/she/it falls” hize /hɪtsə/ “falling/a fall” hîte /hitə/ “I fall” hîten /hitən/ “you (sg) fall” sob /sɔb/ “he/she/it breathes” sobe /sɔbə/ “br...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 04 Jan 2018, 17:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4815
Views: 339397

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I get p > /N_ but why would /g/ get devoiced? It doesn't make much sense unless there is some context to this I'm missing. The second rule is also a bit weird. It's probably g p > ɣ ɸ > h h, right? I guess it makes sense in a minimalist phonology with few fricatives. But I'm still a bit iffy about ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 04 Jan 2018, 07:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4815
Views: 339397

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Small sound shift idea:

g p > k b /N_
g p > h h

Optionally:
r w > g b
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 02 Jan 2018, 19:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13440
Views: 675222

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Is it at all reasonable to have words contract in place names, when they otherwise wouldn't? Mostly to avoid place names becoming too lengthy. E.g. taisat - new phalas - river Taiphlas - (name of a place - 'New River') So there would be a closed set of abbreviated forms used only for compounding. T...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 23 Dec 2017, 07:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4815
Views: 339397

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A variation on a thing I've thought of before: /m n/ /p t k (ʔ)/ /s/ /ɾ l j w/ /a e i o u/ Syllable structure is (C(R))V(C). R represents the resonants /ɾ l j w/, which may follow a syllable-initial obstruent. Cross-syllabic sequences /j.j/ and /w.w/ are automatically reduced to /.j/ and /.w/ Coda n...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 17 Dec 2017, 04:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Conlang I'm starting to make
Replies: 2
Views: 216

Re: Conlang I'm starting to make

I like that's there's /v/ without /f/. Looking forward to more.
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 15 Dec 2017, 06:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4815
Views: 339397

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A historical thing I might use sometime: Word-final homorganic /NT/ and /ND/ clusters exist; there are allomorphic alternations between the two (e.g. klent / klend ), owing to the addition of a vocalic suffix that triggered voicing (or blocked word-final devoicing) and was later dropped. /mp nt ŋk/ ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 09 Dec 2017, 04:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4815
Views: 339397

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I came up with a phonology sketch based on an auto-generated map from @unchartedatlas on Twitter. /i y u/ <i ü u> /e ø o/ <e ö o> /æ a/ <ä a> /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /t q ʔ/ <t q '> /b d/ <b d> /t͜ɬ t͜ʃ/ <tl ch> /v s ʃ x/ <v s sh kh> /l r/ <l r> /w j/ <w y> Syllable structure is (S)CVC, where C is any cons...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 04 Dec 2017, 20:36
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4815
Views: 339397

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A vowel system: /i u/ /ə/ /ɛ ɔ/ Stress is word-initial. There is a system of vowel harmony, termed "feature harmony": Every vowel in a word must share at least one distinctive feature (height or backness/rounding) with the first vowel in the word. That is, words with initial /u/ may also contain /i ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Mon 04 Dec 2017, 03:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Stoplang scratchpad
Replies: 7
Views: 473

Re: Stoplang scratchpad

Looks nice so far. I like the fairly simple aesthetic of its phonology. What were the conditions for the dropping of the unpronounced word-internal and word-final vowels? Cause it looks like not all got dropped. Or if the unpronounced vowels are just orthographic echo vowels, what determines the cho...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 03 Dec 2017, 07:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13440
Views: 675222

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Well, I think wrt the issue of romanization, regardless of the nature of tone as a phenomenon it would be redundant to mark both tones in a two-tone system - e.g. <kèlág ósóma mìpì ìrtámbá> tells you exactly nothing more than either <kelág ósóma mipi irtámbá> or <kèlag osoma mìpì ìrtamba> (regardles...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 02 Dec 2017, 07:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4815
Views: 339397

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I was sketching out something but I'm not done with it yet; one interesting thing I thought of is how if you had vowel sandhi but then had a vowel/shift merger the sandhi process could lead to some interesting and unexpected outcomes: e.g. /i/ + /e/ > /i/ and /u/ + /e/ > /o/, but then /u/ > /i/; lea...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 02 Dec 2017, 06:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13440
Views: 675222

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I don't think so. Diphthongs often tend to be longer than single vowels. Although, if you mean that there was an original /ee/ that stayed long but the new /e/ + /e/ just became /e/, that might be a little odd. I guess if you conceived of the rule not as /e/ + /e/ = /e/ but rather as "a vowel follow...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 18:11
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13440
Views: 675222

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Debuccalization of coda /s/ to /h/ (or /x/) and vocalization of the coda /h/ to /a/ is the simplest option.
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 07:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13440
Views: 675222

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Theoretically, yes, any consonant could undergo complete assimilation; essentially taking on all features of the consonant adjacent to it and retaining only its existence as a unit of length. E.g. amta > atta or abhu > ahhu. But complete assimilation is more "forceful" or "extreme", so it occurs les...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 06:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13440
Views: 675222

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Well, pretty much by any other way you get geminates, but just at the start of a syllable. Deletion of a word-initial vowel before a geminate: attama > ttama Deletion of vowels (due to whatever reason) between two already identical consonants: titama > ttama Assimilation of a cluster and then deleti...