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by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 14 Aug 2018, 13:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13869
Views: 851374

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

English does various things like this with different derivational endings - some can't be applied to just any word, and sometimes there are two with equivalent meaning that attach to words under different phonological or semantic conditions. E.g. (I can't think of a really good example offhand) we h...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 12 Aug 2018, 15:13
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13869
Views: 851374

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I mean, it can be, but accidental gaps are also a thing, and it wouldn't be unusual for a language to have a lot of accidental gaps.
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 10 Aug 2018, 05:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Also, sorry to double-post, but here's a revision of something Frislander did quite some time ago for my 26-syllable challenge: /pʷ pʲ tʷ sʲ/ /mʷ mʲ nʷ ɲ/ /ɾʷ ʎ/ /w βʲ j/ /ɨ a/ /ɨ/ is realized as [u] after labialized consonants and [i] after palatalized consonants. Word-initial /jɨ/ and /wɨ/ are rea...
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 10 Aug 2018, 04:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A simple vowel thing:

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        [+stress]  [-stress]
/i/     [i]        [i]
/e/     [e]        [i]
/a/     [a]        [ə]
/o/     [o]        [u]
/u/     [u]        [u]
/ai̯/   [ai̯]      [e]
/au̯/   [au̯]      [o]
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 03 Aug 2018, 13:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

[+1] [tick] Reminded me of Núta until I noticed the phonotactics. Are /kʷo ko/ distinct? Yep, they are. I'm thinking it maybe ought to have one additional syllable template, since the possibilities are currently very restrictive. (In fact, I created it to satisfy my 26-syllable challenge, but now I...
by Porphyrogenitos
Thu 02 Aug 2018, 22:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/n/
/t k kʷ ʔ/
/s h/
/w/

/i a o/

syllable structure is (C)V

/ti/ is impermissible and is always replaced by /si/
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 22 Jul 2018, 02:39
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13869
Views: 851374

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

You know what's odd? My phonetics professor told me that nasalized fricatives are physically impossible and no language has your nasalized fricatives. I've also heard this on conlanging forums. But they seem pretty easy to articulate to me... Edit: Oops, yeah, I missed the actual conversation just u...
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 20 Jul 2018, 02:40
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Linguistic Stages
Replies: 4
Views: 341

Re: Linguistic Stages

I don't think it's possible to even begin to speculate on how long it will take such-and-such language to "reach" a particular morphological profile. Not unless there's clear evidence that the language is already in such a transition, in which case all we can say is "Sometime in the future - unless ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Tue 17 Jul 2018, 18:20
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 13869
Views: 851374

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

What are geminated nasals likely to turn into? Could they become prenasalized stops?
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 15 Jul 2018, 07:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Introducing /θ/ and /ð/ to languages with neither
Replies: 9
Views: 426

Re: Introducing /θ/ and /ð/ to languages with neither

Oceanic is an interesting counter-example, which proves that prenasalized stops are the most resistant to fricativization: Proto-Oceanic had a contrast between plain and prenasalized stops, with plain stops being voiceless. In most Oceanic languages, plain stops become fricatives, variously voicele...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 01 Jul 2018, 06:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/m n w/ /p t k/ /ɸ s x/ /a i u/ /w/ is [ŋ] in coda That w > ŋ change reminds me of some similar changes that happened in various Italian, Romanch, and Francoprovencal varieties where it sometimes went all the way to [g] or [k]. Also coda j > k. I also read a thing by Robert Blust recently where he ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 15 Jun 2018, 19:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Today, I thought about a language where for every segment there is only one syllable it can occur in, i.e. there are no two syllable that share a segment. A toy example would be a language that has /p t k/ and /a i u/: this would only allow the syllables /pa ti ku/. Of course one can use much more ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 18 May 2018, 07:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A diachronic vowel thing inspired by the Southern American Vowel Shift:

i iː > i ei̯
e eː > e ai̯
a aː > a au̯
o oː > o eː
u uː > u iː
ai̯ au̯ > aː oː
oi̯ eu̯ > uː ou̯
by Porphyrogenitos
Fri 18 May 2018, 07:00
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 27
Views: 3525

Re: English Dialects

Well, here's mine KIT ɪ DRESS ɛ TRAP æ LOT ɑ STRUT ʌ (it's definitely not actually [ʌ] but it's not quite [ə] either) FOOT ʊ BATH æ CLOTH ɑ NURSE ɚ FLEECE i FACE eɪ PALM ɑ (though historical /l/ has been reinserted into most of the words with orthographic l) THOUGHT ɑ GOAT oʊ GOOSE ʉu PRICE (split b...
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 18 Apr 2018, 06:32
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A silly thing, but: If there was a language whose vowels corresponded exactly to the names of the English vowel letters, which English dialect would produce the most typologically plausible vowel system? You may optionally include the name of the letter Y. General American produces something almost ...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sun 08 Apr 2018, 00:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A thing:

/m n̪ ɳ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ m n rn ny ṅ ṅw
/p t̪ ʈ c k kʷ ʔ/ p t rt ty k kw h
/b d̪ ɖ ɟ g gʷ/ b d rd dy g gw
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 14 Mar 2018, 04:56
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Can languages diachronically "jump" between modalities?
Replies: 2
Views: 934

Can languages diachronically "jump" between modalities?

This is a topic I've had an ongoing curiosity about, ever since I read this article by Luke Fleming which suggests that Damin, the ritual register of Lardil known for being the only language variety outside Africa with phonemic clicks, originated as a sign language which evolved into a spoken langua...
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 14 Mar 2018, 04:43
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Will Indo-Aryan no longer be an accepted term in Linguistics?
Replies: 15
Views: 1356

Re: Will Indo-Aryan no longer be an accepted term in Linguistics?

I always thought "Indic" was a catch-all term for all languages of South Asia, in particular casting Indo-Aryan and Dravidian as a historically and culturally intertwined whole. At least I'm pretty sure I've seen it used that way. And I thought the point of the term "Indo-Aryan" was that it didn't r...
by Porphyrogenitos
Wed 14 Mar 2018, 03:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Initials: /m n/ m n /p t t͜ʃ k/ p t ch k /b d d͜ʒ g/ b d j g /f s ʃ h/ f s sh h /w z j/ w z y /l/ l Rimes: /ij ih in iŋ/ [iː ɪ(h) ɪn ɪŋ] ii ih in ing /ej eh en eŋ/ [ei̯ ɛ(h) ɛn ɛŋ] ei eh en eng /aj aw ah an aŋ/ [ai̯ au̯ a(h) an aŋ] ai au ah an ang /oj ow oh on oŋ/ [oi̯ ou̯ ɒ(h) ɒn ɒŋ] oi ou oh on on...
by Porphyrogenitos
Sat 10 Mar 2018, 22:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 4981
Views: 437229

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I find this wonderful. PLEASE make this into something. Thanks! I wanted it to be a kind of thing where you couldn't know whether the labialized consonants were phonemic, or the rounded-unrounded vowel contrast was phonemic. Although I realized I forgot to include a series of syllables with no init...