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by MoonRightRomantic
Mon 27 Nov 2017, 15:13
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Help making sense of Protoss?
Replies: 4
Views: 816

Re: Help making sense of Protoss?

Hey did this help at all? Sorry, I was away over thanksgiving. I wanted to make an update: it seems that I was wrong about the phrases being gibberish, since a number of them are repeated with English equivalents. On the wiki pages: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft_unit_quotations http://s...
by MoonRightRomantic
Thu 23 Nov 2017, 02:01
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Help making sense of Protoss?
Replies: 4
Views: 816

Help making sense of Protoss?

I am trying to make sense of the Protoss "language" in Starcraft. It's not actually a language, just a bunch random gibberish intended to sound cool. http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Khalani https://khalani.wordpress.com http://khalani-language.blogspot.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comment...
by MoonRightRomantic
Fri 27 Oct 2017, 21:12
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Non-English Orthography Reform
Replies: 282
Views: 34036

Re: Non-English Orthography Reform

It's been a while since this topic was revisited, but I found a conscript called Hanyinwen that uses a similar scheme to the proposed Chinese spelling reform a couple posts above. Hanyinwen is written phonemically in syllable blocks similar to Hangul (like several of the neighboring Chinese conscrip...
by MoonRightRomantic
Thu 12 Oct 2017, 14:33
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

I've been doing more research and my understanding has changed and grown immensely. According to page 59 of The First Writing: Script Invention as History and Process , edited by Stephen D. Houston, the "alphasyllabary" (syllabic alphabet, alphabetic syllabary, abugida, abzuda, what have you) was in...
by MoonRightRomantic
Wed 11 Oct 2017, 16:41
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: How does Dunging's Iban alphabet compare to romanization?
Replies: 7
Views: 1003

Re: How does Dunging's Iban alphabet compare to romanization

The only text I've found so far has " pantun iban lenyau surat " written as PA-AN-TA-UN E-BA-AN LA-NYA-AW SA-UW-RA-AT which suggests that a) the vowels represented is somewhat defective, b) each CV glyph has an inherent /a/, which c) is overridden by the vowel of any V or VC glyphs (I'm not 100%, t...
by MoonRightRomantic
Tue 10 Oct 2017, 14:49
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: How does Dunging's Iban alphabet compare to romanization?
Replies: 7
Views: 1003

Re: How does Dunging's Iban alphabet compare to romanization

As for how the system works, it looks like an interesting combination of abugida and syllabary, though the result looks like it could have been based on Sinitic phonotactical theory. Basically each consonant initial has an implict vowel which is overridden by a following rhyme character. I think it...
by MoonRightRomantic
Thu 05 Oct 2017, 23:44
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: How does Dunging's Iban alphabet compare to romanization?
Replies: 7
Views: 1003

How does Dunging's Iban alphabet compare to romanization?

I learned about the obscure Iban alphabet through omniglot. It is used to write Iban, a relative of Malay. I found a chart of the LaserIban font at http://archive.is/KXnaf, but I have no idea how it would transcribe compared to the Latin-based orthography. Does anyone here know?
by MoonRightRomantic
Wed 27 Sep 2017, 17:12
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

The advantage of all classifications is the interest it creates in its interstices... Not for be filled, but perhaps just to be observed... (Without classifications, anywhere would be fascinating...) I am interested in intersections. I spend a lot of time surveying the conscripts on Omniglot and in...
by MoonRightRomantic
Tue 26 Sep 2017, 14:42
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

Back to the original topic... Wikipedia has an unfair amount of influence over what audiences learn, despite its notorious unreliability. The articles are often written in obtuse and confusing manner. I have seen academic papers that are easier to read. Omniglot is superior in this regard, since it ...
by MoonRightRomantic
Thu 20 Jul 2017, 14:19
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

:roll: And searches for "consonantary" come from people confused on the terminology in this thread. (Also, abjad isn't a word outside of the linguistic realm) "Consonantal alphabet" is the more common term, before spambots endlessly duplicated Wikipedia. "Abjad" has several meanings, like the Arabi...
by MoonRightRomantic
Wed 19 Jul 2017, 22:37
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

My point of view: to use a baptist word , seach a dictionary the usual meaning in the language you want to use... In english abjad is common... consonantary not... If you want to use other word define it first and go on... (or use an a priori (called philosophical) language where every word is tran...
by MoonRightRomantic
Wed 19 Jul 2017, 14:00
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

Peter Daniels has no authority outside his own circle of academics. https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/60/36/56/abjad10.png https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/60/36/56/conson10.png His circle is quite large... (that what I said...) [+1] [Insert Scientist/Researcher] had no authority outside of [his/her...
by MoonRightRomantic
Tue 18 Jul 2017, 18:26
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

"Abjadiyah" is the Arabic word for alphabets. I deliberately choose my terms from English rather than Peter Daniels' loan word-derived neologisms because they translate better. If you ask an Arab conlanger about "abjad" they won't understand what you mean without explaining a whole new context. If ...
by MoonRightRomantic
Tue 18 Jul 2017, 14:31
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

Hmm, I'm a total newbie, but can someone explain why hebrew is consonotary? Originally Hebrew was written without indicating vowels, but later a series of diacritics were devised to indicate vowels. So it depends on which version of the script you are writing. In the Hebrew script, like Arabic, eac...
by MoonRightRomantic
Sat 10 Jun 2017, 22:14
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

lsd wrote:Etymological in an etymological sense (telling the truth) ...
In English, a morpheme may change pronunciation by context. For example, acerbic and acrid share the same root.
by MoonRightRomantic
Fri 09 Jun 2017, 14:28
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Classifying ambiguous writing systems
Replies: 31
Views: 4753

Re: Classifying ambiguous writing systems

I entertained the idea of writing English using two parallel scripts, representing morphemes and phonemes separately. The morphemes would illustrate the etymology of words, while the phonemes would represent how those words are pronounced in the corpus' dialect.
by MoonRightRomantic
Tue 23 May 2017, 17:15
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: How to design your own script
Replies: 72
Views: 23572

Re: How to design your own script

So clawgrip, how is your Hanzi simplification project going?
by MoonRightRomantic
Fri 31 Mar 2017, 00:51
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Constructing syllabaries for complex syllables?
Replies: 28
Views: 3259

Re: Constructing syllabaries for complex syllables?

ultimately it is your decision. that said, perhaps if you let us see some, you could tell us what you're looking for (or which of your graphemes you like more than the others), and we can help. we want to help. First I made a cross table with vowels in the columns and consonants in the rows. From t...
by MoonRightRomantic
Wed 29 Mar 2017, 19:50
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Constructing syllabaries for complex syllables?
Replies: 28
Views: 3259

Re: Constructing syllabaries for complex syllables?

I would be happy to help. Maybe you can check out my thread on how to design your own script . I must have made at least a dozen different tables of graphemes by now. Featural and arbitrary alike. For some reason nothing really appeals to me. I am wondering if I should use something like Briefscrip...
by MoonRightRomantic
Wed 29 Mar 2017, 13:56
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Constructing syllabaries for complex syllables?
Replies: 28
Views: 3259

Re: Constructing syllabaries for complex syllables?

I just learned about the existence of the IsiBheqe script, which was devised by a group of linguists and programmers to write Southern Bantu languages because the Latin alphabet is unsuitable. It works on similar principles to Hangul. I am still having trouble deciding on the graphemes for my script...