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by Xonen
Fri 16 Feb 2018, 19:15
Forum: Teach & Share
Topic: My view of linguistics
Replies: 6
Views: 351

Re: My view of linguistics

Right, Shemtov sent me a PM explaining that it's not all of historical linguistics he rejects, just Afro-Asiatic. I still think a literal interpretation of the Babel text leads to problems with time frames, if nothing else, but I'll admit avoiding all of historical linguistics is going too far. I've...
by Xonen
Fri 16 Feb 2018, 12:52
Forum: Teach & Share
Topic: My view of linguistics
Replies: 6
Views: 351

Re: My view of linguistics

Locking this thread before it degenerates into a full-blown flamewar. Shemtov, if your religion forbids you from discussing a subject without violating the "controversial or extraordinary claims" part of the house rules , then I suggest you refrain from discussing such subjects on this board. Everyo...
by Xonen
Thu 15 Feb 2018, 03:21
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6388
Views: 404375

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I read about Dothraki. In it, the nominal predicat(iv)e in the present is in Nominative but in the past it is in Ablative. This is quite interesting an idea to code tense with case. Russian and Standard Arabic also have different cases (Instrumental and Accusative respectively) as complements of th...
by Xonen
Thu 15 Feb 2018, 02:44
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Sprachbund Theory
Replies: 9
Views: 467

Re: Sprachbund Theory

Yes, the Volga area languages do quite clearly form a Sprachbund that contains at least Mari, Mordvin and Udmurt and a whole bunch of Turkic languages, that's obvious just from looking at the present-day situation there. But this is relatively recent compared to the protolanguages. You're missing t...
by Xonen
Tue 06 Feb 2018, 16:56
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Sprachbund Theory
Replies: 9
Views: 467

Re: Sprachbund Theory

. One thing that's sometimes mentioned as a similarity between Turkic and Uralic is vowel harmony, but I find that somewhat questionable, actually, since Proto-Uralic is probably better analyzed as not having any vowel distinctions apart from a two-way height contrast in non-initial syllables. That...
by Xonen
Tue 06 Feb 2018, 15:56
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6388
Views: 404375

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Sleep/slept is different, though, isn’t it? According to Wiktionary, Old English slǣpan was a strong verb with present 1st-person singular “slǣpe” and past 1st/3rd-person singular “slēp”. This seems to suggest that sleep historically changed from a strong verb to a weak verb and then ended up with ...
by Xonen
Thu 01 Feb 2018, 20:37
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: The worst sounding natlang ever
Replies: 233
Views: 12502

Re: The worst sounding natlang ever

Yeah, Mandarin has x, sh, zh, j, q, ch, all of them some kind of alveolo-palatal (or palato-alveolar) sound. According to Wikipedia at least, Mandarin <zh ch sh> are retroflex, but even if they are palato-alveolar, then that's still rather different from alveolo-palatal. And yes, the terminology is...
by Xonen
Tue 30 Jan 2018, 21:04
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: The worst sounding natlang ever
Replies: 233
Views: 12502

Re: The worst sounding natlang ever

There's also something else I dont think a lot of other people notice ... I divide languages into "vowel-strong" and "consonant-strong", with some in the middle. Consonant-strong languages tend to have a lot of consonant clusters, and their vowels are affected by the consonants around them. Vowel-s...
by Xonen
Mon 29 Jan 2018, 16:58
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Sprachbund Theory
Replies: 9
Views: 467

Re: Sprachbund Theory

I took out Greenberg's Monograph on his proposed Eurasiatic family, and while I disagree with it, there are some coincidences that need explaining. Such as...? I mean, I don't doubt that there are some curious similarities between language families, but coincidences don't really need much explainin...
by Xonen
Thu 25 Jan 2018, 23:36
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: The worst sounding natlang ever
Replies: 233
Views: 12502

Re: The worst sounding natlang ever

I don't like English despite it being my native lang, but I can't put a finger on why beyond it just being boring to me. That might be the exact reason. [;)] I think a lot of people feel that way about their native languages; I remember considering Finnish really basic and simple and being a bit en...
by Xonen
Thu 25 Jan 2018, 22:58
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: Metal Thread
Replies: 276
Views: 24955

Re: Metal Thread

And now we're apparently all two minutes  from being dead. :roll: Although I can't say I'm convinced; the possibility of a global war where superpowers could resort to nuclear weapons must have felt very real in the 1950's when exactly that had just happened (and the fact that nukes were rapidly esc...
by Xonen
Sun 14 Jan 2018, 19:24
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Spanish Por Para issue. Help!
Replies: 10
Views: 415

Re: Spanish Por Para issue. Help!

Oh, sorry, I meant 'syntactic' in a sense that included the syntax of bound morphemes - the sense in which case usage occurs in 'syntax' chapters, while 'morphology' chapters just have the, you know, mechanics of word alteration, as it were. The point is that the categories of syntactic function ar...
by Xonen
Sun 14 Jan 2018, 18:34
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
Replies: 336
Views: 28847

Re: Linguistic pet peeves

The French "language", if it can be called that. It's just a string of uvular trills and nasalized front round vowels: Average French sentence in IPA: [ʀỹʀø̃ʀỹʀœ̃ỹʀʏ̃ʀœ̃] Er, I'm not a huge fan of the way French sounds myself, but... standard French doesn't actually have any of those sounds. :wat: ...
by Xonen
Sun 14 Jan 2018, 03:25
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
Replies: 336
Views: 28847

Re: Linguistic pet peeves

The French "language", if it can be called that. It's just a string of uvular trills and nasalized front round vowels: Average French sentence in IPA: [ʀỹʀø̃ʀỹʀœ̃ỹʀʏ̃ʀœ̃] Er, I'm not a huge fan of the way French sounds myself, but... standard French doesn't actually have any of those sounds. :wat: ...
by Xonen
Fri 12 Jan 2018, 17:27
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Spanish Por Para issue. Help!
Replies: 10
Views: 415

Re: Spanish Por Para issue. Help!

You are talking about the semantic role (function, whatever) of nouns. This is entirely different from case , which is a syntactic category. It's probably useful to say that case doesn't require morphology - that it may be indicated by word order, say I suppose that might make sense in some languag...
by Xonen
Thu 11 Jan 2018, 16:15
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: Metal Thread
Replies: 276
Views: 24955

Re: Metal Thread

Aw hell, now Fast Eddie's dead. [:(] Turns out he was a pretty decent vocalist, too.
by Xonen
Wed 20 Dec 2017, 21:27
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread
Replies: 1045
Views: 43179

Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Thrice Xandvii wrote:
Wed 20 Dec 2017, 07:09
You know, Russian + Jamaican... err, wait, Jamaican isn't a language... is it?

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by Xonen
Sun 17 Dec 2017, 17:21
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6388
Views: 404375

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Is it not simpler to assume that me and my simply merged either in function or just pronunciation? This does seem simpler. But that doesn't fit because this merger of function isn't found anywhere else in the paradigm except in some varieties where "you" and "your" are both reduced to [jə]. And pho...
by Xonen
Thu 14 Dec 2017, 01:59
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: How would you romanize Kazakh?
Replies: 8
Views: 509

Re: How would you romanize Kazakh?

Аа > Aa Әә > Ää Бб > Bb Вв > Vv (or just merge with Ww) Гг > Gg Ғғ > Ğğ Дд > Dd Ее > YEye (word-initially and after vowels), Ee (elsewhere) Ёё > YOyo Жж > Jj Зз > Zz Ии > İYiy Йй > Yy Кк > Kk Ққ > Qq Лл > Ll Мм > Mm Нн > Nn Ңң > Ññ Оо > Oo Өө > Öö Пп > Pp Рр > Rr Сс > Ss Тт > Tt Уу > Ww Ұұ > Uu Үү ...
by Xonen
Wed 13 Dec 2017, 11:02
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6388
Views: 404375

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

The answer is probably really simple and obvious but I couldn't find anything. I have envisioned an "inverted Genitive" for Nakarian, and I am looking for a real-world equivalent. Basically, the idea is to not mark the possessor but the possessed object. It also changes the head of the phrase from ...