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Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Täzari » Fri 08 Aug 2014, 15:43

Hello everybody!

I'm new on this forum and I am very pleased to see that there is a "teach and share" section which is full of really interesting posts about language learning. Most of all I am very happy to see that, along with the most common languages such as German, Swedish or French, there are many threads that deal with minority languages.

I've been studying Ainu for about three years now and I really like it! Unfortunately the Ainu language is facing a very hard time trying to stay alive: it doesn't receive enough support from the Japanese government and the people who are actually willing to study it are few... But this is never a good reason to give up! Every single language has its beauty that deserves to be enjoyed no matter what is the present situation or actual production of that language..... At least, this is my thinking!

So, long story short, would any of you be interested in knowing something more about the Ainu language? [;)] If I receive positive answers I will start to post about it very soon!

Thanks for you attention! [:D]
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Micamo » Fri 08 Aug 2014, 16:19

How much do you know about the (extinct) non-Shizunai dialects?
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Täzari » Fri 08 Aug 2014, 18:43

Micamo wrote:How much do you know about the (extinct) non-Shizunai dialects?
The dialect I've been studying is the Saru dialect and since one year I'm spending my time also on the Sakhalin Rayciska dialect.... I've translated several texts as part off my future PhD research..... I guess I can be of some help for anyone who may want to learn a little Ainu!
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Post by roninbodhisattva » Fri 08 Aug 2014, 20:23

I'd be interested. Where are you doing your PhD work?
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Post by DesEsseintes » Fri 08 Aug 2014, 20:23

I'd definitely be interested in learning about Ainu. [:)]
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Post by Ceresz » Fri 08 Aug 2014, 20:44

Go for it! I'd love to see some stuff on Ainu, even if I won't be doing much in the way of learning the actual language.
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Post by Micamo » Fri 08 Aug 2014, 22:25

Täzari wrote:The dialect I've been studying is the Saru dialect and since one year I'm spending my time also on the Sakhalin Rayciska dialect.... I've translated several texts as part off my future PhD research..... I guess I can be of some help for anyone who may want to learn a little Ainu!
Ooh, do you know anything about Itadori? I'd be very interested in hearing more about how applicatives interacted with incorporated objects in that dialect. (Or possibly others, but Itadori is the one I know of where an incorporated object can be interpreted as either a DO or an Oblique.)
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Post by gach » Fri 08 Aug 2014, 23:06

I can't say to know much of the structure of Ainu so a guided round trip of the grammar will be very welcome. Also, since this relates to your PhD work, should we expect to see some publications from you in the coming years?
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Post by Täzari » Sat 09 Aug 2014, 08:02

I'm so glad to hear so many positive encouragements!
I'm gonna be out of town and without an internet connection during the following two weeks so I'll be posting my first post on Ainu when I'll get back..... sorry to keep you waiting!
In answer to your questions I'm doing my PhD at SOAS university of London... the topic of my research are Ainu evidentials (I've read something and I know something about Ainu's valency increasing and decreasing strategies but actually I don't know much about Itadori.... but I can get myself informed!)
I have some projects for the future and I'm sui hoping to be able to publish something some day! [;)]

I promise I'll do my best!
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Cikkernok » Fri 10 Oct 2014, 09:01

I am very interested. Would you happen to know some good (online) resources on Sakhalin Ainu?
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by clawgrip » Fri 10 Oct 2014, 14:12

It would be interesting to see something about Ainu. Looking forward to seeing what you have to show us.
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Epaqasnwqar » Mon 13 Mar 2017, 09:21

[:'(] Yranqarahte-e ! Pyrqa no an . Qw anaq oripaq Andyy E-paq-as-nw-qar qar wa yn-qar y-an ne-e ( rehe) E-paq-as-nw-qar an roq Aynw ytah an(r)y ranma a-ye an no Aynu ayn-so-mo y-saq no an an o-pyt-ta se-qor-an qw=yay-nw wa maqanaq wen-nw-pe paqar wa an a-nwqar qar ya somo wwqo-qy-qar tan-pe qw=yay-nw Qarahto Aynw qar p aryqyqy an-ne wa Qwrylsqy Aynw wa Qamcatqa Aynw an wa qar ro an ne rwwe ne. Ninjal ainutopics.com a-nw yan ne e-nwqar wa. Pateq Aynw ytah a-nwqar yan-an(r)y qar wa.
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Post by clawgrip » Mon 13 Mar 2017, 13:00

You would probably do well to speak a language we can understand. That way we can perhaps assist you in some way.
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Frislander » Mon 13 Mar 2017, 13:20

clawgrip wrote:You would probably do well to speak a language we can understand. That way we can perhaps assist you in some way.
It is Ainu they're using, just in a weird idiosyncratic romanisation (why I do not know). The lack of English translations even in Engish sections of the board is infuriating, I'll agree.
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Epaqasnwqar » Mon 13 Mar 2017, 23:44

Ainu itak = Karapto ( Sakhalin mix with Kurils and Kamcatka )Aynu ytah Hh = Kk ya Qq , Uu = Ww , Ii = Y y , - E-paq-as-nw-qar E= all we + paq = degree + as = set up + nw = write + qar = make = study , learn , www5d.biglobe.ne.jp an BAT_A2E wa BAT_EA an ne -e wen wa pyrqa Wwe-to-re qan-py-sos = Dictionary wa. ainutopic.ninjal.ac.jp S(h)ys(h)a-mo ytah wa tommy1949.world.cocoon.jp e- Gwgwrw ( Google) a-nu-yan ne-e pyrqa wa pyrqa wa ne ,O-shy-may

Nederlands taal Yq hep een beetjen Zuid-( Swyt) Denemaarqen fryssysq studeerde ooq oq Noorn twnqmaal wa qwäänsq , Qaarjala qyyleq [:D]

Ainu ytak an(r)y : Rynqo = Apple Qom-pwta no an.; yaro nan ta pe ne-ne = Yamaqata-Qata Mataqy

W-we-s(h)yn-nay-no W-sa-W-oya-w-oya okay-pa o-qa wa.Wa iOS/ X tw-ytah-hy-no-qatw = bi-lingual e-y-wan-qe an-pe User Or-wn-qo-to-ro-s(h)o-qw-rw-qa-s(h)y-qe = OS Localisation user-interface Aynw E-tw-ry-e-chwy = support twn-tw wa a-e-qo-pas(h)-te-p qar-qar wa yn-qar yan qon-rwswy wa qw-ro an ne-e wa pyrqa no an.
Japanese = S(h)ys(h)a-mo-ytak language グーグルのさがす。
Google= Gwgwrw an(r)y chymy = search an no wa ytah word Ay-qo-y-qar-a-pe = example Qataqana

片qata仮qa名na OS X Sy-e-ra = Mosyr Rwy-nw-ye-p = Menu Language preferences , Keyboard Ainu language p wa typing roma ye-p wa qar an wan-te wn-a ne pe qataqana qar wa yn-qar =makes katakana Ainu an(r)y ne paq-pe-re-ri na no wa Repwn Roma-nw-ye-p wa Ainu itak an(r)y uwepekere, yukar , Epakashnu, = any Ainu words and something in Japanese thousands nep nep qar poron-no wa wen-pe Japanese Junko wa pyrqa no nw-qar an rwwe an yaro! Yan moy-qe-re
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Epaqasnwqar » Tue 14 Mar 2017, 05:03

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Post by qwed117 » Tue 14 Mar 2017, 16:45

Frislander wrote:
clawgrip wrote:You would probably do well to speak a language we can understand. That way we can perhaps assist you in some way.
It is Ainu they're using, just in a weird idiosyncratic romanisation (why I do not know). The lack of English translations even in Engish sections of the board is infuriating, I'll agree.
I think this is Ainu (Karapto dialect) They mentioned it in one of their posts earlier. It's weird seeing links interspersed though. Makes me think it's a Japanese speaker who is trying to Translate Ainu to Japanese to English; but it isn't going spectacularly. Clawgrip; I think you should respond to him.
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by Epaqasnwqar » Sun 19 Mar 2017, 13:06

Charanqe-y-yaynw qar hyqere

Hem para na ram hwmyqar pysy sos paro y-ye noan wa a-e-paqasnw qwsw neno Engyrysw ytah anry ray-qy an nwpwry no Awswturaya Ameryqa at nep qwsw na Auynw ytah anw-qar wa ran-ma somo ayn wa qar pysy pysy qar an ne -e " Aynw ytah y-ray-qe an somo an qwsw ne wa masqyn no e-qy-roroanqa somo ne -e ayo yo eyqosanpa wa qwchyqanqan-paqeqoshne wa Akqademiq eraman no anpe wa qw ramwtataryqy wa qanqapkapeqa anpe wa qymaypa wa yaysampepoqashy wa yayqewtwmsawrere wa yqeswy wa eywanqe Aynw ytah anaq no y-eyqap nawa somo hetoposhyqnwre no an ta na ray-qe an yaq qw pyrqa no Aynw ytah easqay no qy wa qw yaynw wa somo ne -e qanpy sos anry e-pasqasnwqar wa qo qy an ta an wa qwsw pryqare wen ytah qar wa ne qw any ramma ramma nwqar wa ynqar ne wa a-ye ytah qatw no rwew an wa qwsw wrenqa wa oroytah qar wa easqayp porono qanpy-sos qor an ne wa アaイiヌnu語go会kai話wa イiラraスsuトto (= ilustaration 辞ji 典 ten or Aynw ytah Ukoyso-itak qanpy-sos te-eta shyshamo mosyr pa 27 wn at an ne qsenofobiyqyqyqar a ta Aynw an wa chynyshte ram-qor-e no ne wa oterqe an qo qy wa
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Post by Epaqasnwqar » Sun 19 Mar 2017, 13:06

Charanqe-y-yaynw qar hyqere

Hem para na ram hwmyqar pysy sos paro y-ye noan wa a-e-paqasnw qwsw neno Engyrysw ytah anry ray-qy an nwpwry no Awswturaya Ameryqa at nep qwsw na Auynw ytah anw-qar wa ran-ma somo ayn wa qar pysy pysy qar an ne -e " Aynw ytah y-ray-qe an somo an qwsw ne wa masqyn no e-qy-roroanqa somo ne -e ayo yo eyqosanpa wa qwchyqanqan-paqeqoshne wa Akqademiq eraman no anpe wa qw ramwtataryqy wa qanqapkapeqa anpe wa qymaypa wa yaysampepoqashy wa yayqewtwmsawrere wa yqeswy wa eywanqe Aynw ytah anaq no y-eyqap nawa somo hetoposhyqnwre no an ta na ray-qe an yaq qw pyrqa no Aynw ytah easqay no qy wa qw yaynw wa somo ne -e qanpy sos anry e-pasqasnwqar wa qo qy an ta an wa qwsw pryqare wen ytah qar wa ne qw any ramma ramma nwqar wa ynqar ne wa a-ye ytah qatw no rwew an wa qwsw wrenqa wa oroytah qar wa easqayp porono qanpy-sos qor an ne wa アaイiヌnu語go会kai話wa イiラraスsuトto (= ilustaration 辞ji 典 ten or Aynw ytah Ukoyso-itak qanpy-sos te-eta shyshamo mosyr pa 27 wn at an ne qsenofobiyqyqyqar a ta Aynw an wa chynyshte ram-qor-e no ne wa oterqe an qo qy wa
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Re: Aynu Itak - Ainu Language

Post by qwed117 » Sun 19 Mar 2017, 13:24

You're not exactly spreading the word if you spam one forum. I would highly suggest spamming elsewhere; especially considering how low-traffic this website is.
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