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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 07:04 
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Now we've reached the three-fourths-of-the-way-through-the-decade point.

This decade will no doubt be remembered for the alt-right, and for Donald Trump becoming president.

Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran seem to be defining musicians, and Taylor Swift carries over from the previous decade. This may be an even bigger decade for her than the last one.

SJW's, and Black Lives Matter.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 11:29 
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Khemehekis wrote:
This decade will no doubt be remembered for . . .


Far too early to even speculate.

History has a way of utterly obliterating from the future's memory everything the past thought was so important, so destined for remembrance.

Heh. I had a shufty at your list from years ago . . . never even heard of 90% of those things.

So much for what this decade shall be remembered for, if 70% of the way through, it's all been forgotten. O mures, o tempura!

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 15:26 
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Khemehekis wrote:
One third of the way through the decade

Khemehekis wrote:
Now we've reached the three-fourths-of-the-way-through-the-decade point.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 17:02 
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Khemehekis wrote:
Now we've reached the three-fourths-of-the-way-through-the-decade point.

This decade will no doubt be remembered for the alt-right, and for Donald Trump becoming president.

Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran seem to be defining musicians, and Taylor Swift carries over from the previous decade. This may be an even bigger decade for her than the last one.

SJW's, and Black Lives Matter.

Well... the increasing polarization of society, with the rise of identity politics on one hand and that of socially conservative nationalist demagoguery on the other, is a thing that does seem to be happening elsewhere in the world as well. There's also a terrorist state in the Middle East, and we're still failing to do anything substantive about climate change despite its effects being rather obvious by now.

As for music, my opinion is that Ozzy still asks the right questions. Seriously, who is Ed Sheeran?



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Khemehekis wrote:
One third of the way through the decade

Khemehekis wrote:
Now we've reached the three-fourths-of-the-way-through-the-decade point.

Well yes, so time flies.


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 18:37 
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O mures, o tempura!

O walls? O eggyolk-based paints?

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 22:25 
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elemtilas wrote:
O mures, o tempura!

O walls? O eggyolk-based paints?

O rats, O fried fish!

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2017, 05:24 
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O mures, o tempura!

O walls? O eggyolk-based paints?

O rats, O fried fish!

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2017, 05:37 
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I'm very confused by the last few posts.

Khemehekis wrote:
Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran seem to be defining musicians, and Taylor Swift carries over from the previous decade. This may be an even bigger decade for her than the last one.
...Ed is totally forgettable, and as for the Biebs? Well, I wish he were. And Taylor? I try not to listen to pop stations but I couldn't name anything she's done in the last few years. But then again, I don't really like how there's no mention of any prominent artists from any non-pop genres either.

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2017, 12:50 
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Khemehekis wrote:
Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran seem to be defining musicians, and Taylor Swift carries over from the previous decade. This may be an even bigger decade for her than the last one.
...Ed is totally forgettable, and as for the Biebs? Well, I wish he were. And Taylor? I try not to listen to pop stations but I couldn't name anything she's done in the last few years. But then again, I don't really like how there's no mention of any prominent artists from any non-pop genres either.
Well, Ed Sheeran has had very popular songs (although I hate most of them and they don't seem to around for such a long time) and I have seen his works being referred as masterpieces so I think he is high on the list. Taylor Swift is the highest paid artist of 2016 and her fanbase is massive, Justin Bieber's fanbase is big as well.

And the thing about non-pop genres is ... there aren't any that are really big in the mainstream media (except for rap). Considering rock music, there's Imagine Dragons and they are still very pop in my eyes so I don't know why they are called rock but apparently they are.

However, I think the rise of the Dutch and Swedish DJ scene could be considered a decade defining thing? They are everywhere now.

Fashion wise I think we have trends right now that will be so 2010s in some years and I bet people will ask themselves why they wore that. I'm speaking of the mix of white, black, grey, olive and pale pink in sweatshirts, sweatpants and caps. Alternatively there are hipsters and the 90s revival and definitely the Tumblr girl fashion (short unnaturally coloured hair and all that). Then there is the undercut and the man bun. And yeah, make-up wise, women are having a very decade defining style as well right now, I'd say. Heavily applied, but still trying to be natural looking, big lips and definitely big eyebrows.

And what Xonen said is definitely correct as well. Polarisation of society, LGBT rights, third wave feminism, alt-right, islamic terror and the resulting fear, rising tension all around the world (Russia/Ukraine, North Korea, ISIS). I would add the politicalisation (?) of youth because I think they are getting more involved. And then there are social media and memes which have become very big this decade.

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2017, 13:27 
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However, I think the rise of the Dutch and Swedish DJ scene could be considered a decade defining thing? They are everywhere now.


Propably, yes. Since 2012, the electronic dance music has slowly overtaken rap as main influence of pop as far as I regard it. Also, how much the festival scene arose within the last seven years...

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I would add the politicalisation (?) of youth because I think they are getting more involved.


Great Britain would beg to disagree.

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2017, 19:55 
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ixals wrote:
I would add the politicalisation (?) of youth


I'd agree this is a thing (though not that the decade will be remembered for it down through the long picomilennia of the future).

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because I think they are getting more involved.


Yoots have always been involved. We didn't have pervasive social media to permanently record it for the edification (or nauseation, depending) of posterity.

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2017, 20:00 
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Youth have definitely always been involved, but sometimes it seems they are simultaneously accused of being apathetic and overzealous (one's youth seems fitting for either of these extremes. It's an extreme time in a person's life).

Which reminds me I have a rally to attend... [;)]

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2017, 20:02 
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eldin raigmore wrote:
elemtilas wrote:
O mures, o tempura!

O walls? O eggyolk-based paints?


O valla, o temperae!

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2017, 22:07 
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Iyionaku wrote:
ixals wrote:
I would add the politicalisation (?) of youth because I think they are getting more involved.


Great Britain would beg to disagree.

Scotland might not.

Although, I doubt it will be considered particularly memorable, much like most of this list.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Oct 2017, 22:24 
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Heh. I had a shufty at your list from years ago . . . never even heard of 90% of those things.


90%? Really? Which 10% of the items had you heard of?

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Oct 2017, 22:36 
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Well... the increasing polarization of society, with the rise of identity politics on one hand and that of socially conservative nationalist demagoguery on the other, is a thing that does seem to be happening elsewhere in the world as well.


Definitely. You see it across many different countries. Even Greece and Sweden, which many people thought were liberal safeholds.

In the nineties, middle-aged Boomers tended to be moderates (with some theocons!), and liked politicians like the Clintons. But now, the Boomers are ageing, and conservative Xers and lefty Millennials are beginning to have more of a voice. Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders both seriously looked as if they could win.

My goodness, this is what Howe & Strauss called the Fourth Turning!

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There's also a terrorist state in the Middle East, and we're still failing to do anything substantive about climate change despite its effects being rather obvious by now.


ISIS will probably be remembered as America's foreign policy issue of the decade, along with the nuclear showdown with North Korea, and perhaps new developments that will occur in 2018 or 2019.

Or perhaps Donald Chump will use nukes, and the current decade won't be remembered, because there will be no one to remember it.

As for climate change, we'll probably think of climate change prophets of doom and the people they're up against (Donald Trump removed all references to climate change from the White House website!) when we think of the eleventies to the same degree that we think of environmentalism when we think of the sixties.

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As for music, my opinion is that Ozzy still asks the right questions. Seriously, who is Ed Sheeran?


"The A-team" has a very different persona from "Shape of You", you got to admit. Justin Bieber is the cute boy who went to being a bad boy, Taylor Swift is the girl who flips through boyfriends like a dad pretending to be interested flips through baby pictures, but I'm not clear on what kind of personality Ed Sheeran is trying to project. He sure does put out a lot of hits, though.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Oct 2017, 22:36 
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Khemehekis wrote:
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Heh. I had a shufty at your list from years ago . . . never even heard of 90% of those things.


90%? Really? Which 10% of the items had you heard of?


I vaguely remember the Wall St. thing. No one ever really seemed to know what it was about, though. Especially the people in it. Of course I've heard about the same-sex thing.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Oct 2017, 22:42 
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Thrice Xandvii wrote:
I'm very confused by the last few posts.

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Justin Bieber and Ed Sheeran seem to be defining musicians, and Taylor Swift carries over from the previous decade. This may be an even bigger decade for her than the last one.
...Ed is totally forgettable, and as for the Biebs? Well, I wish he were. And Taylor? I try not to listen to pop stations but I couldn't name anything she's done in the last few years.


She did "Blank Space", with which you were unfamiliar, in 2014. That same year, she put out "Shake It Off" and "Style". 1989 was a huge albim. Since then, Taylor has done "The New Romantics", and currently has a song called "Look What You Made Me Do".

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But then again, I don't really like how there's no mention of any prominent artists from any non-pop genres either.


Check out the first post in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2977&p=121120#p121120

I list a number of indie artists, and some of our indie rockers (such as Imagine Dragons and Ellie Goulding) are still putting out hits to this day. I also mention Bruno Mars, who is sort of R&B.

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Oct 2017, 22:46 
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ixals wrote:

And the thing about non-pop genres is ... there aren't any that are really big in the mainstream media (except for rap). Considering rock music, there's Imagine Dragons and they are still very pop in my eyes so I don't know why they are called rock but apparently they are.


Yeah, I even mention Imagine Dragons in the OP.

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However, I think the rise of the Dutch and Swedish DJ scene could be considered a decade defining thing? They are everywhere now.


You mean like Avicii?

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Fashion wise I think we have trends right now that will be so 2010s in some years and I bet people will ask themselves why they wore that. I'm speaking of the mix of white, black, grey, olive and pale pink in sweatshirts, sweatpants and caps. Alternatively there are hipsters and the 90s revival and definitely the Tumblr girl fashion (short unnaturally coloured hair and all that). Then there is the undercut and the man bun. And yeah, make-up wise, women are having a very decade defining style as well right now, I'd say. Heavily applied, but still trying to be natural looking, big lips and definitely big eyebrows.


Man buns will probably be as eleventies as afros are seventies.

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I would add the politicalisation (?) of youth because I think they are getting more involved. And then there are social media and memes which have become very big this decade.


I remember when my peers got into politics in my high school days in the late nineties. That was the beginning of the Millennials' coming of age, and Millennials tend to be a political generation, one that's getting more powerful now (but still not always listened to).

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Oct 2017, 22:56 
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ixals wrote:
I would add the politicalisation (?) of youth


I'd agree this is a thing (though not that the decade will be remembered for it down through the long picomilennia of the future).



Picomillennium? A trillionth of a millennium? I believe you mean "teramillennia".

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