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Post by Thrice Xandvii » Sat 25 Nov 2017, 08:25

Looks like just a bit of coding (to make the php file) and a few image files is all it takes.
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Post by Pabappa » Sat 25 Nov 2017, 22:43

OK thanks, if nobody else objects I'll put the image into my sig in a few days or so, probably with a mint-green color scheme instead of pink and purple.

The code is here:
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<?php
makeImageF("$q","Eurosti.TTF");

function makeImageF($text, $font="Eurosti.TTF", $W=550, $H=44, $A=0, $X=6, $Y=20, $fsize=12, $color=array(0x80,0x00,0x40), 
$bgcolor=array(0xFF,0xCD,0xE6)){


   $numberone = "Vepis? Papopivapi wapebabom, pa?";
   $numbertwo = "Sazza, lasiafatas bafom.";
   $numberthree = "Šipaši! Bumabi!";
   $numberfour = "Papuprevis, puffi.";
   $numberfive = "Lilalupa wapapetam pallwaba.";

    $numbersix = "Why? Because I grow tulips?";
 $numberseven = "Today is veterans' day.";
 $numbereight = "Hurry! Swim against the current!";
 $numbernine = "I blushed when I saw your insulting gift.";
 $numberten = "Butterflies to freedom fly.";
 
    $a=array($numberone,$numbertwo,$numberthree,$numberfour,$numberfive);


    $keykey = array_rand(array_keys($a)); 

    $text = $a[array_rand($a)];

    $text = $a[$keykey];

    


    $bbb = array($numbersix,$numberseven,$numbereight,$numbernine,$numberten);
     $bext = $bbb[$keykey];

    $im = @imagecreate($W, $H)
        or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");

    $tolor = array(0x00,0x00,0x40);
       
    $background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, $bgcolor[0], $bgcolor[1], $bgcolor[2]);        //RGB color background.
    $text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, $color[0], $color[1], $color[2]);            //RGB color text.

    $text_tolor = imagecolorallocate($im, $tolor[0], $color[1], $color[2]);     

    
    imagettftext($im, $fsize, $A, 6, 20, $text_color, $font, $text);
     imagettftext($im, $fsize, $A, 6, 36, $text_tolor, $font, $bext);
    

   
    header("Content-type: image/png");               
    return imagepng($im);
}

?>

Im sure there's a better way to do it ... Im a novice programmer at best, and PHP isnt my language ... but it works, and the bandwidth used is so tiny that Im not really worried about efficiency. I'd like to eventually make something more elaborate, perhaps a dynamically generated weather report, for which I'd need to learn at least a little bit more code so I could figure out how to position images inside other images and alongside text.

edit: got the weather thing started ... images & text together requires a whole different approach, apparently ... and I wont load it up until i can show something other than just random numbers and static images. right now at http://pabappa.com/pics/weather7.php if anyone's curious, though.
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Post by eldin raigmore » Thu 30 Nov 2017, 19:33

We don't have a Random Sound-Changes Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We have a Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread; and we have a Sound Change Game Thread.

Also: We don't have a Hangeulization Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We do have a Romanization Game Thread, and a Cyrillicization Game Thread.
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Post by shimobaatar » Thu 30 Nov 2017, 21:52

eldin raigmore wrote:
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 19:33
We don't have a Random Sound-Changes Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We have a Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread; and we have a Sound Change Game Thread.
Are you saying you're going to make one?
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Also: We don't have a Hangeulization Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We do have a Romanization Game Thread, and a Cyrillicization Game Thread.
We have this thread.
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Post by Creyeditor » Fri 01 Dec 2017, 12:51

eldin raigmore wrote:
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 19:33
We don't have a Random Sound-Changes Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We have a Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread; and we have a Sound Change Game Thread.[...]
I would post random sound change ideas in the thread you called "Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread", because I understand its title more like "random phonology ideas".
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Post by eldin raigmore » Mon 04 Dec 2017, 23:45

shimobaatar wrote:
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 21:52
Are you saying you're going to make one?
No; I was only looking for one.

shimobaatar wrote:
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 21:52
eldin raigmore wrote:
Thu 30 Nov 2017, 19:33
Also: We don't have a Hangeulization Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We have this thread.
Thanks!

Creyeditor wrote:
Fri 01 Dec 2017, 12:51
I would post random sound change ideas in the thread you called "Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread", because I understand its title more like "random phonology ideas".
Thanks!

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Where would be the best place to go, to learn about how sound-changes work, and which ones are most likely, and so on?
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Post by eldin raigmore » Mon 08 Jan 2018, 23:48

Questions about favorite words (or sayings) of children at various ages.
This will be asked in English, but I assume readers will know of some other natlang examples.

Before I was a father, I thought a two-year-old's favorite word was "NO!";
and a three-year-old's favorite word was "MINE!";
and a five-year-old's favorite word was "Why?" (Or "How come?" or "What for?" or other quasi-synonyms);
and a tween-ager's favorite utterance was "It's not fair!".

However, at a certain age -- single digits, but older than five, but I don't remember exactly when --
it seems my daughter's favorite assertion was "I don't need no help!".

(1) Anyone have an idea at what age a typical child says "I don't need no help" (or the equivalent) notably often?
(2) Are there parallel remarks that are the favorites of children speaking other languages?
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Post by shimobaatar » Tue 09 Jan 2018, 00:24

Is there any scientific evidence that those are children's "favorite words" at certain ages? To me, those just sound like stereotypes.
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Post by Axiem » Tue 09 Jan 2018, 02:22

My five-year-old doesn't actually ask "why" questions very often, but she does ask a lot of questions. Often repetitious. Often things she could answer for herself if she just shut up and listened to what was going on five seconds earlier. But not very often starting with "why". She also likes shouting "it's not fair!" when my spouse or I discipline her for (what we consider to be) very reasonable reasons.

Likewise, I don't recall a "mine" phase for either of my children who have been (/are) three, or a "no" phase for my children who have been two.

Meanwhile, my three-year old has since he was two frequently insisted on doing things "by self", however much longer it takes.

So I have no idea where those stereotypes even come from. It sounds like something said by someone who's never had kids.
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Post by Thrice Xandvii » Tue 09 Jan 2018, 08:58

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Eldin isn't asserting that any of those phrases are always, or have to be, said by children at the listed (or any specific) ages per se, but is instead attempting to give some setting information for discussing some early repetitive phrasing of children based on anecdotal or "old-wive's tail"-type information.

As such, I don't really recall my brother having any catch phrases like those when he was in the single-digit and over age brackets. I mean, I remember things I said to him (I'm 12 years older than him) but I don't really remember any particular phases like are described above. I'd have to talk to my mother to get info on myself or my brother since I really don't recall.
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Post by eldin raigmore » Wed 10 Jan 2018, 00:42

shimobaatar wrote:
Tue 09 Jan 2018, 00:24
Is there any scientific evidence that those are children's "favorite words" at certain ages?
I don't know of any.
shimobaatar wrote:
Tue 09 Jan 2018, 00:24
To me, those just sound like stereotypes.
I'm sure the details are just stereotypes. But I think it may be that these are among the favorite phrases of many children at certain stages of development -- whatever the actual ages should be.
That said, my OP shows that, as far as my own experience with the two children I helped raise (my god-daughter and my daughter), I found other oft-used phrases a little more common than these "stereotypical" ones.

Axiem wrote:
Tue 09 Jan 2018, 02:22
My five-year-old doesn't actually ask "why" questions very often, but she does ask a lot of questions. Often repetitious. Often things she could answer for herself if she just shut up and listened to what was going on five seconds earlier. But not very often starting with "why".
I've heard/read it theorized that kids' favorite follow-up question is likely to be the one that, in their experience, gets the longest response from the adult -- or from adults in general, maybe. This theory says that the kids are still learning speech, and want to elicit a lot of input.
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She also likes shouting "it's not fair!" when my spouse or I discipline her for (what we consider to be) very reasonable reasons.
I'm pretty sure "Not fair!" doesn't have to wait until double-digits. It just seems that from second-hand accounts, it comes to the fore of some folks' offsprings' utterance corpus, around the ages of ten to fifteen, or something like that. I don't recall it happening with my own daughter, though.
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Likewise, I don't recall a "mine" phase for either of my children who have been (/are) three,
My daughter was 17 when her mom died; it was then that she started (in effect) saying "mine" a lot.
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or a "no" phase for my children who have been two.
When my goddaughter was about two, she became very insistent on getting things done her way, and very upset when adults didn't understand what she wanted. I think it was more about the frustration of failing to communicate than anything else.
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Meanwhile, my three-year old has since he was two frequently insisted on doing things "by self", however much longer it takes.
Like my daughter! But a different age.
Axiem wrote:
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So I have no idea where those stereotypes even come from. It sounds like something said by someone who's never had kids.
I don't know where they come from, either. Also, I found my experience with child-raising varied from those stereotypes (if that's what they are) somewhat.

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Tue 09 Jan 2018, 08:58
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Eldin isn't asserting that any of those phrases are always, or have to be, said by children at the listed (or any specific) ages per se, but is instead attempting to give some setting information for discussing some early repetitive phrasing of children based on anecdotal or "old-wive's tale"-type information.
That's right.
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As such, I don't really recall my brother having any catch phrases like those when he was in the single-digit and over age brackets. I mean, I remember things I said to him (I'm 12 years older than him) but I don't really remember any particular phases like are described above. I'd have to talk to my mother to get info on myself or my brother since I really don't recall.
Every child I've ever known well enough, has had several catchphrases, different ones at different ages.
(Except I don't remember me ever having any. But my siblings might remember some!)
Kids' catch-phrases don't usually make much sense, IME.
I think the old-wives'-tale sort of sums up favorites of many children. Any particular child's personal favorite might not be that.
I also think the ages given are probably stand-ins for something more accurate but less precise.


Anyway: Are there others? Has anyone else heard or read anything else? Are there near-equivalents in any other languages?
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Post by Lambuzhao » Sun 21 Jan 2018, 15:18

eldin raigmore wrote:
Mon 08 Jan 2018, 23:48

However, at a certain age -- single digits, but older than five, but I don't remember exactly when --
it seems my daughter's favorite assertion was "I don't need no help!".

(1) Anyone have an idea at what age a typical child says "I don't need no help" (or the equivalent) notably often?
(2) Are there parallel remarks that are the favorites of children speaking other languages?
No clue what age exactly.

But you remind me of a common trope in Spanish language commercials I have seen both in :per: and :usa:,

in which there's a young child (maybe 4-5 yrs old) who is supposed to demonstrate the ease of use of the product in question.
They will say something assertive like

La próxima vez lo hago solit@
DEF.F.SG next.F time.SG 3SG.M.OBJ do<PRS.1SG> alone.DIM.M/F
Next time I do it by myself

Yo lo hago solit@
1SG.SUB 3SG.M.OBJ do<PRS.1SG> alone.DIM.M/F
I'll do it by myself


One phrase my son loved to use in his 'inquiry stage' (4~6 yrs)was "Let's do X and see what happens".
He was a real scientist. An aggressive researcher, if you will. Do the detriment of snails, pillbugs, millipedes, spiders, wasps, bees and other creepy crawlies around the yard.
Surprsingly, not too many dinged noggins nor scraped knees.
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Post by LinguistCat » Sun 21 Jan 2018, 21:23

When I was very very young (maybe even earlier than 2) if I fell, I'd say "Nothing!" before getting up. My mom speculated that she kept asking me if anything was wrong so I got it into my head to say "nothing!" before she could ask to save time. Not sure if that logic holds but it's as good a guess for what was going on as any I have myself. I remember doing it because I think I kept it up til I was about 5 and I have some pretty strong memories still from that time, I just fell a lot less as time went on.
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Post by eldin raigmore » Thu 25 Jan 2018, 00:35

Lambuzhao wrote:
Sun 21 Jan 2018, 15:18
One phrase my son loved to use in his 'inquiry stage' (4~6 yrs)was "Let's do X and see what happens".
He was a real scientist. An aggressive researcher, if you will. Do the detriment of snails, pillbugs, millipedes, spiders, wasps, bees and other creepy crawlies around the yard.
Surprsingly, not too many dinged noggins nor scraped knees.
[:)] [B)] [+1] [tick] Good for him!

My father used to say "All children are poets and philosophers and scientists.".
(I think it was Pinker? Could have been someone else.) who said: "All children are anthropologists, and the society they're studying is their family."?

Also; Thanks, LinguistCat!
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Post by eldin raigmore » Wed 28 Mar 2018, 19:09

Which is the correct English noun : —— “Tremendosity” Or “tremendousness”?
And why?
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eldin raigmore wrote:
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Which is the correct English noun : —— “Tremendosity” Or “tremendousness”?
And why?
New Oxford American Dictionary says "tremendousness."
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Dezinaa wrote:
Thu 29 Mar 2018, 00:44
eldin raigmore wrote:
Wed 28 Mar 2018, 19:09
Which is the correct English noun : —— “Tremendosity” Or “tremendousness”?
And why?
New Oxford American Dictionary says "tremendousness."
Thanks!
Any idea why tremendosity is not a well formed word?
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eldin raigmore wrote:
Sat 31 Mar 2018, 23:08
Dezinaa wrote:
Thu 29 Mar 2018, 00:44
eldin raigmore wrote:
Wed 28 Mar 2018, 19:09
Which is the correct English noun : —— “Tremendosity” Or “tremendousness”?
And why?
New Oxford American Dictionary says "tremendousness."
Thanks!
Any idea why tremendosity is not a well formed word?
There seems to be some discussion in the other thread where you asked the same question... As a rule, it might help if you only ask a question in a single thread; makes following the resulting discussion a bit easier for everyone.
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Post by eldin raigmore » Tue 03 Apr 2018, 18:27

Xonen wrote:
Sun 01 Apr 2018, 00:26
There seems to be some discussion in the other thread where you asked the same question... As a rule, it might help if you only ask a question in a single thread; makes following the resulting discussion a bit easier for everyone.
Huh!😧 I didn’t even remember asking it twice!

(BTW your link took me to the right thread but the wrong post; 324 pages ago! But I found the correct post easily enough!)

Sorry, people!
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Post by eldin raigmore » Wed 18 Apr 2018, 06:33

What’s a better idea; rereduplication or reduplicationation?
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