The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

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Post by Thrice Xandvii » Tue 24 Oct 2017, 01:52

There's nothing on Wiktionary or in Google Translate so I wasn't sure what other resource to use.
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Thrice Xandvii wrote:There's nothing on Wiktionary or in Google Translate so I wasn't sure what other resource to use.
Sorry, I’m afraid I don’t know of any others either. I use an actual printed dictionary. I’m so old-fashioned. [:S]
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Post by Thrice Xandvii » Tue 24 Oct 2017, 02:55

Honestly, I like books too, especially dictionaries, I just don't have one that's useful in this case.
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Post by holbuzvala » Tue 24 Oct 2017, 17:42

So I'm writing a long essay comparing the creation of Esperanto to the revamping of Hebrew into its Modern Hebrew (Israeli) form. Any recommendations for books/articles about Esperanto I could read? Can be language/linguistics specific, but I'd also like to know if there are any sources that talk about Esperanto culture.
Much obliged!
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Post by Lao Kou » Wed 25 Oct 2017, 05:25

Thrice Xandvii wrote:
DesEsseintes wrote:
Thrice Xandvii wrote:
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Thrice Xandvii wrote:Anyone know what this character means: 虇?
It’s pronounced quăn and means a) 芦笋 lúsŭn - asparagus; b) the shoot of a reed or similar plant

I use Wang Li’s Dictionary of Classical Chinese for obscure characters. I haven’t checked but I’m sure there’s an online version.
There's nothing on Wiktionary or in Google Translate so I wasn't sure what other resource to use.
Sorry, I’m afraid I don’t know of any others either. I use an actual printed dictionary. I’m so old-fashioned. [:S]
Honestly, I like books too, especially dictionaries, I just don't have one that's useful in this case.
For online, I often use this:

http://www.zdic.net/

which rendered this:

http://www.zdic.net/z/23/js/8647.htm

which it defines it as 1) the shoot of a reed or similar plant; 2) bamboo shoot (they also usually provide an English gloss, at least, but this character is a tad arcane)

Uncle Hanzi often has stuff off the beaten path. But not today for . Perhaps he has a day job.

I was amazed to find it here, which I normally use for quick online day-to-day stuff.

http://www.iciba.com/%E8%99%87 Not even a tone marker here! Usually English definitions, some example sentences with (albeit often GoogleTranslationese-style) English equivalents. And the Chinese definitions are exactly the same as what you find at zdic. But hey! It's arcane, but it's here.

None of my hardcopy dictionaries have this one [:|] .
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Post by DesEsseintes » Wed 25 Oct 2017, 05:58

Lao Kou wrote:None of my hardcopy dictionaries have this one [:|] .
Since you’re a fellow China resident, may I again recommend 王力古汉语字典. Fear not, the dictionary itself is entirely in traditional. [:)]
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Post by eldin raigmore » Wed 25 Oct 2017, 21:01

Did you know that most male babies born in Catholic hospitals express Anabaptist tendencies during the first few minutes after being born?
For instance, they tell me that my first act as a newborn was to re-baptize Sister Mary Francis de Sales (my mom's attending nurse)!
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Eesh, just... eesh!
This is a bit late, but I think y'all are missing the point. English isn't better than any language, much like it isn't worse. Unless you have some extraordinary proof that it is much worse.
eldin raigmore wrote:Did you know that most male babies born in Catholic hospitals express Anabaptist tendencies during the first few minutes after being born?
For instance, they tell me that my first act as a newborn was to re-baptize Sister Mary Francis de Sales (my mom's attending nurse)!
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Post by Thrice Xandvii » Fri 27 Oct 2017, 02:51

qwed117 wrote:This is a bit late, but I think y'all are missing the point. English isn't better than any language, much like it isn't worse. Unless you have some extraordinary proof that it is much worse.
Pretty sure we all agree with that as we were commenting that the supposed superiority being talked about is ridiculous.
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Post by Lao Kou » Fri 27 Oct 2017, 03:53

DesEsseintes wrote:Since you’re a fellow China resident, may I again recommend 王力古汉语字典. Fear not, the dictionary itself is entirely in traditional. [:)]
It arrived all shiny and sparkly this morning. [:D] I'll have the weekend to work through my new dictionary crush. [B)]

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Post by Thrice Xandvii » Fri 27 Oct 2017, 03:58

Are there any really good dictionaries of Chinese characters written in English?
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Post by Egerius » Fri 27 Oct 2017, 09:04

... Or about the Seal Script and Oracle Bone pictograms...
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Post by DesEsseintes » Sat 28 Oct 2017, 17:19

I have no time to conlang. I don’t foresee having any time to conlang for a good while to come. And yet I keep getting good conlanging ideas. I think I’m onto something. My brain is desperately trying to escape all the super responsible things I’m actually busy with and therefore is tempting me to slack off and conlang. Once I have free time again, my brain will just shrug and stare at me blankly when I actually want to get back into conlanging. Ah, the irony.

I need to get up early. Again. Good night. [/rant]
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Post by sangi39 » Sat 28 Oct 2017, 17:40

DesEsseintes wrote:I have no time to conlang. I don’t foresee having any time to conlang for a good while to come. And yet I keep getting good conlanging ideas. I think I’m onto something. My brain is desperately trying to escape all the super responsible things I’m actually busy with and therefore is tempting me to slack off and conlang. Once I have free time again, my brain will just shrug and stare at me blankly when I actually want to get back into conlanging. Ah, the irony.

I need to get up early. Again. Good night. [/rant]
I have a similar issue. Yantas, both the world and the languages spoken on it, has been a project of mine for 4 years now and I've been so bogged down by real-life that I've found it hard to come up with more than a handful of phonologies, some very basic morphologies and the map of the world is still what I'd consider a rough draft.
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DesEsseintes wrote:I have no time to conlang. I don’t foresee having any time to conlang for a good while to come. And yet I keep getting good conlanging ideas. I think I’m onto something. My brain is desperately trying to escape all the super responsible things I’m actually busy with and therefore is tempting me to slack off and conlang. Once I have free time again, my brain will just shrug and stare at me blankly when I actually want to get back into conlanging. Ah, the irony.

I need to get up early. Again. Good night. [/rant]
Maybe keep a notebook and/or notes app handy so you can jot things down? Just enough to remind you later, when you have some free time, what you were thinking of. I have this tiny notepad in my bedroom, and if I have a conlang idea but need to get to bed, I might write down as little as one word so I can see it in the morning and remember.
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Post by Lambuzhao » Sun 29 Oct 2017, 01:11

Dormouse559 wrote:
DesEsseintes wrote:I have no time to conlang. I don’t foresee having any time to conlang for a good while to come. And yet I keep getting good conlanging ideas. I think I’m onto something. My brain is desperately trying to escape all the super responsible things I’m actually busy with and therefore is tempting me to slack off and conlang. Once I have free time again, my brain will just shrug and stare at me blankly when I actually want to get back into conlanging. Ah, the irony.

I need to get up early. Again. Good night. [/rant]
Maybe keep a notebook and/or notes app handy so you can jot things down? Just enough to remind you later, when you have some free time, what you were thinking of. I have this tiny notepad in my bedroom, and if I have a conlang idea but need to get to bed, I might write down as little as one word so I can see it in the morning and remember.
Gliribunde,
I am functionally in the same rut. Just too busy. And we got new Spanish textbooks this year, and some of the exercises, they call out to me, saying
«Translate us into Rozwi, traduce us into Çedara. Be so good as to wend us into Sådras…» Mountains of grading keep me from my secret vice. [:'(]

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Post by Frislander » Sun 29 Oct 2017, 17:12

I've made it to 2000 posts peeps! [:D] I feel like a veteran of the board now!
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Post by Thrice Xandvii » Sun 29 Oct 2017, 17:48

Congrats!
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Hmmm, I've no idea how many I have ATM,
gonna use this post to check.
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