The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by Creyeditor » 02 Mar 2018 10:58

What do you mean by bottom-up vowel harmony? Is that vowel harmony genesis through phonetics?
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Post by Parlox » 04 Mar 2018 18:38

Creyeditor wrote:
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What do you mean by bottom-up vowel harmony? Is that vowel harmony genesis through phonetics?
I used the wrong term there, i should have said high-low vowel harmony, where low vowels are in one class and high vowels the other.

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Post by sangi39 » 05 Mar 2018 23:41

Parlox wrote:
02 Mar 2018 03:19
I just realized, my language Bàsupan would be very easy to give a top-bottom vowel harmony in a descendant language. I'm thinking of doing it. Though i'm not sure how realistic it is, given i have never heard of a triconsonantal root language that has vowel harmony of any kind.
The closest I've been able to find are some of the (Central Cushitic) Agaw language which have both ablaut processes and vowel harmony, but I've having trouble finding much on it. In Awngi it seems like a fairly restricted process, the most widely mentioned example (appearing almost word for word pretty much anywhere you might find it) is that roots with /e/ in the final syllable will shift all instances of /e/ and /o/ within the root to /i/ and /u/ when a suffix containing /i/ is added. The West Chadic languages seem to have something similar, where added suffixes determine what vowels appear in preceding syllables while also applying ablaut to certain roots.
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Post by Xonen » 07 Mar 2018 01:59

Parlox wrote:
02 Mar 2018 03:19
I just realized, my language Bàsupan would be very easy to give a top-bottom vowel harmony in a descendant language. I'm thinking of doing it. Though i'm not sure how realistic it is, given i have never heard of a triconsonantal root language that has vowel harmony of any kind.
Well, there's at least a theory that vowel harmony (in the broad sense) was actually a part of how triconsonantal roots got formed in the first place. See this ancient thread on the ZBB.

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Post by eldin raigmore » 08 Mar 2018 22:13

How do the rest of us feel about the BabyBel product that teaches customers a "new" language?

Also, how diverse can a company get?
These are phone companies that resulted from the break-up of AT&T, right?
And then for some reason they diversified into making cheese!?!!??

And now they're making language apps!



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Post by shimobaatar » 08 Mar 2018 23:29

Has anyone else heard the recent news about Amelia Earhart?

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Post by eldin raigmore » 09 Mar 2018 00:50

shimobaatar wrote:
08 Mar 2018 23:29
Has anyone else heard the recent news about Amelia Earhart?
How recent?
In July 2017 they said they had evidence she survived the crash, and maybe died as a castaway.
Or did you have some other or later news in mind?

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Post by shimobaatar » 09 Mar 2018 00:54

No, I mean, like, from today. I haven't gotten a chance to read any of the articles in detail, but I saw several headlines earlier about her bones supposedly having been found and positively identified.

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Post by Dormouse559 » 09 Mar 2018 07:36

According to NPR, measurements of bones that vanished decades ago were put into a computer program, and it said they were consistent with a European female. The woman might have been about the same height as Earhart. So, like, maybe those bones were hers, but we also don't have the bones any more, so it's hard to verify the measurements.

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Post by shimobaatar » 09 Mar 2018 07:52

Well, that's… a lot less interesting than I thought it was going to be. Thanks for the summary, though.

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Post by KaiTheHomoSapien » 09 Mar 2018 21:11

Active shooter/hostage situation a few miles from where I live:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/09/ ... f-gunfire/

No reports of any casualties, but it's scary. I guess it was only a matter of time before something like this happened here. [:(]
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Post by elemtilas » 09 Mar 2018 22:30

eldin raigmore wrote:
08 Mar 2018 22:13
How do the rest of us feel about the BabyBel product that teaches customers a "new" language?

Also, how diverse can a company get?
These are phone companies that resulted from the break-up of AT&T, right?
And then for some reason they diversified into making cheese!?!!??

And now they're making language apps!



(BTW it's nice to be able to log in here again! Hi, everybody! How you doin'?)
And furniture for little tykes, too.

And they write songs for cats.

And also small helicopters. (Nòt for cats.)

Me I think they're poised to take over the entire world!!

I am rather partial BabyBel cheese. And plus the wax is pretty cool, too.
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Post by shimobaatar » 10 Mar 2018 03:37

KaiTheHomoSapien wrote:
09 Mar 2018 21:11
Active shooter/hostage situation a few miles from where I live:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/09/ ... f-gunfire/

No reports of any casualties, but it's scary. I guess it was only a matter of time before something like this happened here. [:(]
Oh, no… that is terrifying. I'm sorry to hear about that. I hope it can get resolved/has been resolved without any casualties.

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Post by KaiTheHomoSapien » 10 Mar 2018 05:04

^ http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

4 people dead, including the gunman. The three hostages were apparently employees at the Veterans home. The gunman was a veteran with PTSD. Just a very tragic situation all around [:(]
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Post by Evynova » 10 Mar 2018 14:24

That is terrible. My condolences go to the victims' families.

It would seem like bloodbaths aren't about to stop in the US. I wonder how many more it's going to take for sensible gun laws to be passed. These tragedies have got to stop.

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Post by shimobaatar » 10 Mar 2018 16:44

That's awful. Rest in Peace.

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Post by Ahzoh » 14 Mar 2018 06:50

The great physicist Steven Hawking just died this Tuesday.
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Post by Lao Kou » 14 Mar 2018 08:47

Ahzoh wrote:
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The great physicist Steven Hawking just died this Tuesday.
Heard this morning, my time. We lose another good one. In Pace.
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Post by Egerius » 14 Mar 2018 13:49

I came to know this via Facebook, and I immediately checked Wikipedia.

This man exceeded well beyond any expectation. He was born on the day Galileo Galilei died 300 years before him, and he died 139 years after Albert Einstein's birth. Aren't those strange coincidences?
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Post by shimobaatar » 14 Mar 2018 15:28

Rest in Peace, Stephen Hawking.

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