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First Linguistics Courses

Post by Shemtov » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 02:16

Last spring I got my AA in Liberal Arts, and after a sabbatical, I am now in a four-year school. The semester starts this coming Monday, and I haven't announced my Major yet, but it's going to be Linguistics. I took phonetics for my AA, but it doesn't transfer as I got a D- I got cocky, saying that I didn't need to work hard, as I knew the material. As I have not talked yet to a Linguistics advisor, I'm taking the only available linguistics course that doesn't have LCD 101 (LCD=Linguistics and communication disorders, they group the Linguistics Majors in the same department as the Speech Pathology Majors) as a pre-req- "Multilingualism in the USA". I am also taking two non-department courses that are listed on the department's site as possible electives for the Major- "The Structure of an East Asian Language"- in the "East Asian Studies" department- this semester they're doing Korean, which i am teaching myself- and "Linguistic Anthropology", in the anthro department, of course. To be a full timer, I am also taking "Greek and Roman Classics in Translation", as they want a "residency" LIT for all Humanities and Social Science BAs in addition to the "Shakespearean Tragedies" I took for my AA.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Thrice Xandvii » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 10:26

This is one of those cases where I am too lazy to Google... What's an AA in this context? An associate's degree?
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Lambuzhao » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 15:50

Good luck!
W00T!!

Edit: I waited until Graduate School to immerse myself linguistically. It was a tonne of work, but I swam thru it like a fish.
Well, that's not entirely true. I talked quite a bit of historical linguistics (PIE) in my undergrad Greek and Latin classes.
And when I got my Post-Bac Cert @ Pennsylvania University (before Grad School proper), I studied Greek Historical Linguistics with Don Ringe,
Spoiler:
He looked like this back then in 1992-1994 Good Laird!!!! Thæt long ago!!!!!!!
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/sasalum/newslt ... /RINGE.GIF

Well before he became Don RInge the Gray
https://almanac.upenn.edu/archive/volum ... /ringe.jpg

He also had a beard back then, but it was longer and whispier and not so gray.
[:P]
and also the Old Icelandic courses I took were chock full of
Germanic Historical Comparative Linguistics, unavoidably. [:)]





No biggie about the Speech Pathology being lumped with other Ling Majors. I went to a failry large university, and I in my Ling classes, there were Speech Pathology majors, L2 Acquisition dissertators, M.Ed~World Language concentration-folk (of which I was one). You'll have this, especially in Grad School, but sometimes in undergrad as well, as some courses were cross-listed. Since my L2 was Spanish, which has a lot of acolytes, there were a number ofGrad-level linguistics classes that were offered in Spanish (i.e. lectures, coursework, texts, projects/papers/etc all en español).

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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Shemtov » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 18:41

Thrice Xandvii wrote:
Fri 26 Jan 2018, 10:26
This is one of those cases where I am too lazy to Google... What's an AA in this context? An associate's degree?
Associate's in Arts, which means that you have an Associate's in a Humanities or Social Science Major, or Liberal Arts focusing on Humanities and Social Sciences as opposed to A.S. Associate's in Science which means that you have an Associate's in a Science or Math Major, or Liberal Arts focusing on Science and Math.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Frislander » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 18:51

Wait, so American universities do "Speech Pathology" as a major? I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that in the UK (or at least, if it exists as a course it's not found in the higher-tier universities). Here in Cambridge, where Linguistics comes under the "Modern and Mediaeval languages faculty" (which is pretty much just for major modern European languages, because Asian and Middle Eastern Studies is its own faculty and Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic is part of the English faculty), and the same applies to the other British unis I've seen, where those that even do linguistics have it under the Languages or English faculties.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Shemtov » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 19:22

Frislander wrote:
Fri 26 Jan 2018, 18:51
Wait, so American universities do "Speech Pathology" as a major? I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that in the UK (or at least, if it exists as a course it's not found in the higher-tier universities). Here in Cambridge, where Linguistics comes under the "Modern and Mediaeval languages faculty" (which is pretty much just for major modern European languages, because Asian and Middle Eastern Studies is its own faculty and Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic is part of the English faculty), and the same applies to the other British unis I've seen, where those that even do linguistics have it under the Languages or English faculties.
They call it "Communication Sciences and Disorders Major" but it's basically "Speech Pathology", so it might be offered under a totally different name in the UK.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Adarain » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 20:14

From what I hear here (Switzerland) there is a distinction between Linguistics and Applied Linguistics and I’d reckon SLP would be in the latter.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Shemtov » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 22:01

Adarain wrote:
Fri 26 Jan 2018, 20:14
From what I hear here (Switzerland) there is a distinction between Linguistics and Applied Linguistics and I’d reckon SLP would be in the latter.
My University has General Linguistics, Applied Linguistics for TESOL, and Communication Sciences and Disorders for SLP. All three majors are in the Linguistics and Communication Disorders Department.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by KaiTheHomoSapien » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 23:35

^Wow, that’s quite the selection. Some universities I looked at didn’t even offer Linguistics at all (and of course I didn’t apply to any of those).
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Frislander » Sat 27 Jan 2018, 12:47

KaiTheHomoSapien wrote:
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^Wow, that’s quite the selection. Some universities I looked at didn’t even offer Linguistics at all (and of course I didn’t apply to any of those).
The same applies in the UK, at least at undergrad; most universities just don't offer it (which really helps when it comes to drawing up the initial shortlist), and those that do pretty much always seem to offer it as a complete applied + theoretical package, though generally with slight inclinations in particular directions. This is even taking into account the fact that Cambridge courses quite often start more general than comparable courses even in other Russel Group unis; all of the other universities I even looked at only offered just plain "Linguistics". In fact you're more likely to get combinations of Linguistics with other courses like English Language or Modern Languages than you are to get any specialisation within linguistics. There are courses out there which do stuff like that at postgraduate level in some of the more minor unis like Anglia Ruskin, but there's nothing at the undergrad level.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Shemtov » Sun 28 Jan 2018, 01:33

KaiTheHomoSapien wrote:
Fri 26 Jan 2018, 23:35
^Wow, that’s quite the selection. Some universities I looked at didn’t even offer Linguistics at all (and of course I didn’t apply to any of those).
Yeah, and it's a CUNY school (Queens) and I think it's one of the few CUNYs with a Bachelor's in Linguistics offered. I wanted to go to Stonybrook, as their Linguistics department seems more "Serious" and has a bigger range of sub-fields covered, like QC doesn't offer an undergrad course in diachronics at all, though that may be covered as part of LCD 101 or 102, and it's a SUNY, and my AA was from a SUNY CC, but my grades from the AA weren't good enough (I had an F in Spanish 102). I will definitely transfer to somewhere else for Postgrad, if I need to be in the Greater NYC area Stonybrook will be my first choice, but if I don't have to be and I have a GPA of 3.8+, I'll apply to U of PA, as they're one of the top ranked Linguistics programs on the East Coast (Just behind MIT, I think), and it will allow me to return to my home city of Philly.
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Post by Lambuzhao » Sun 28 Jan 2018, 12:36

@ Temple University in Philadelphia :

There are MA & PhD tracks for Linguistics,
and MA & PhD tracks for Applied Linguistics,
and MA & PhD tracks for Education w/ Concentration in Applied Linguistics (TESOL mostly, but other branches of L2 Acquisition were/are represented)
Strangely, Temple offers a Masters of Arts in Speech Language Hearing Science (Speech Pathology). [O.o]
I suppose not soooo strange: I also have a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science (technically, Political Philosophy. Y'know, Self Interest Rightly Understood, and all that)

The doctorate level for that is called PhD in Communication Sciences and Disorders.

I got my Masters in Education w/ Concentration in Spanish at Temple.

About 70~80% of my Spanish course load was in Linguistics classes (by choice), the other 20~30% was in required grammar/composition/lit classes.
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Post by Shemtov » Tue 30 Jan 2018, 20:35

I arrived at my linguistic anthropology course ten minutes before class ended, because of a snowfall heavier than the buses expected, but the professor understood that it wasn't my fault. We had a conversation about linguistics after class, and when she heard about conlanging, she didn't say like a lot of people have said their professors have said that it's a mockery of the science, but that "Nothing involving languages is pointless"
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Post by Shemtov » Mon 16 Apr 2018, 15:47

And conlangs came up in another class, and the professor compared them to pidgins-"Not a real language, as they have no grammar" [}:(]
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

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Shemtov wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 15:47
And conlangs came up in another class, and the professor compared them to pidgins-"Not a real language, as they have no grammar" [}:(]
Sounds like they'll have a lot of fun talking to the people of this board [:P]
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That they all still believe in you.
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Post by Frislander » Tue 17 Apr 2018, 12:03

Compare that with my university, where the phonetics professor is literally the guy that did Parseltongue for the Harry Potter films.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Lambuzhao » Fri 27 Apr 2018, 00:13

sangi39 wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 18:34
Shemtov wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 15:47
And conlangs came up in another class, and the professor compared them to pidgins-"Not a real language, as they have no grammar" [}:(]
Sounds like they'll have a lot of fun talking to the people of this board [:P]
Wow. Whoa.
[Steps away from 'puter, walking and laughing throughout the domicile, all the way back to the 'puter screen]

Okay. Where were we?

Oh, yes. And with those words, Chernobog is summoned from deep within the pages of The Siwa Grammar.... [}:D]
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by sangi39 » Fri 27 Apr 2018, 00:19

Lambuzhao wrote:
Fri 27 Apr 2018, 00:13
sangi39 wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 18:34
Shemtov wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 15:47
And conlangs came up in another class, and the professor compared them to pidgins-"Not a real language, as they have no grammar" [}:(]
Sounds like they'll have a lot of fun talking to the people of this board [:P]
Wow. Whoa.
[Steps away from 'puter, walking and laughing throughout the domicile, all the way back to the 'puter screen]

Okay. Where were we?

Oh, yes. And with those words, Chernobog is summoned from deep within the pages of The Siwa Grammar.... [}:D]
Oh god! Siwa?! Why would would you hit them over the head with that book? It's huuuuuge! Hit them with something shorter, like "Dune"
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Lambuzhao » Fri 27 Apr 2018, 00:21

sangi39 wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 18:34
Shemtov wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 15:47
And conlangs came up in another class, and the professor compared them to pidgins-"Not a real language, as they have no grammar" [}:(]
Sounds like they'll have a lot of fun talking to the people of this board [:P]
Wow. Whoa.
[Steps away from 'puter, walking and laughing throughout the domicile, all the way back to the 'puter screen]

Okay. Where were we?

Oh, yes. And with those words, Chernobog is summoned from deep within the pages of MONOBA's Sauṡpỉḍna Katatsgovabmis Sỷdi.... [}:D]
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0s7s73ru27nw8 ... a.pdf?dl=0
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Re: First Linguistics Courses

Post by Lambuzhao » Fri 27 Apr 2018, 00:23

sangi39 wrote:
Fri 27 Apr 2018, 00:19
Lambuzhao wrote:
Fri 27 Apr 2018, 00:13
sangi39 wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 18:34
Shemtov wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 15:47
And conlangs came up in another class, and the professor compared them to pidgins-"Not a real language, as they have no grammar" [}:(]
Sounds like they'll have a lot of fun talking to the people of this board [:P]
Wow. Whoa.
[Steps away from 'puter, walking and laughing throughout the domicile, all the way back to the 'puter screen]

Okay. Where were we?

Oh, yes. And with those words, Chernobog is summoned from deep within the pages of The Siwa Grammar.... [}:D]
Oh god! Siwa?! Why would would you hit them over the head with that book? It's huuuuuge! Hit them with something shorter, like "Dune"
I mean, dem's fightin' words. And why not give that untrue disbeliever some :con: Shock 'n' Awe??
Satan laughing spreads his wings…
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