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Post by k1234567890y » Tue 10 Apr 2018, 21:34

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Is it possible for a society to reject writing for a long time after they became more established, e.g. after they had their own kingdom?
It's happened at least once, with Linear B. Used primarily, as far as we can tell, for the recording of what effectively amounts to admin data (where certain goods came from, where they went, and why), it fell out of use pretty much as soon as the Mycenaean states collapsed around 1200BC, with the Greek language in those areas not written down again for another 400 years.
maybe they just stopped having a society to support writing? what if they had a society that theoretically could support writing but they did not have one and they knew one?
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Re: (ACH) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by sangi39 » Tue 10 Apr 2018, 22:18

k1234567890y wrote:
Tue 10 Apr 2018, 21:34
sangi39 wrote:
Tue 10 Apr 2018, 21:31
k1234567890y wrote:
Tue 10 Apr 2018, 19:06
Is it possible for a society to reject writing for a long time after they became more established, e.g. after they had their own kingdom?
It's happened at least once, with Linear B. Used primarily, as far as we can tell, for the recording of what effectively amounts to admin data (where certain goods came from, where they went, and why), it fell out of use pretty much as soon as the Mycenaean states collapsed around 1200BC, with the Greek language in those areas not written down again for another 400 years.
maybe they just stopped having a society to support writing? what if they had a society that theoretically could support writing but they did not have one and they knew one?
Ohhh, I misunderstood your question [:P] I read it as "could they go from having writing, and a complex state-like structure, then lose that writing system and the state?" (in the case of Linear B it definitely seems like the writing system was an integral part of the state, i.e. without the state they just couldn't teach anyone else to read and write properly because only a (possibly literal) handful of people actually knew how), rather than "could they go from having writing, and a complex state-like structure, then lose that writing system but not lose the state?".

It's certainly possible for a state-like structure to exist without what we'd consider writing. Quipu, for example, might not have recorded much more than numerical information, but they're still being worked out properly anyway, I think. Some people, if I remember rightly, have suggested the possibility that the Inca did once have a writing system that they, at some point, just abandoned, but since "no evidence for writing" doesn't automatically equal "the evidence could have disappeared", finding out will be pretty difficult.

I'd assume that it would be possible, albeit difficult, for writing to be abandoned, especially if the use of writing was firmly in the hands of the state (as it was in Mycenaean Greece), but it seems like some form of record keeping would probably survive, again in the hands of the state.
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Post by k1234567890y » Tue 10 Apr 2018, 22:20

ok thanks (:
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