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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Fri 12 Jan 2018, 23:01

Khemehekis wrote:
Fri 12 Jan 2018, 05:20
Hey All4Ɇn, I was going to post the fish, amphibian/reptile, and bird segments of my Landau Core Vocabulary, but then I decided I'd ask you a different question: would you like me to send you the whole LCV? If you PM me your email addy, I can email you the list as I have it tweaked up right now. You'll get lots of animal and plant names, plus a whole lot more (colors, prepositions/postpositions, food and drink, vehicles, weapons, thinking verbs, speaking verbs, verbs of movement, kinship terms, words for physical description, body parts, clothing, medicine, nature, etc.)
I'd prefer if you could PM me the list [:)]
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by Khemehekis » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 00:29

All4Ɇn wrote:
Fri 12 Jan 2018, 23:01
I'd prefer if you could PM me the list [:)]
A while ago, MrKrov made this post, saying I didn't need to use email. As you'll see in that thread, it turned out the list was too big to fit in a PM. [:(]
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 57,000 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 04:47

Khemehekis wrote:
Sat 13 Jan 2018, 00:29
A while ago, MrKrov made this post, saying I didn't need to use email. As you'll see in that thread, it turned out the list was too big to fit in a PM. [:(]
Dang. Maybe you could send it in parts?
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by Khemehekis » Sat 13 Jan 2018, 23:33

All4Ɇn wrote:
Sat 13 Jan 2018, 04:47
Dang. Maybe you could send it in parts?
I'll try that. Look for the pieces in your PM box.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Tue 16 Jan 2018, 01:00

Counters With Money
Since I'm back in school I won't be able to post as much so here's a small grammar note in the meantime [:)]. As the word for money, 萡 (Nan), is uncountable, when before words that require counters, counters for specific currency have to be used instead. For example:

In Vietnam:
咦𠇍銅罖?
Xi·haom đunh nãnh?
How much money is it? (literally how much đồng is it?)

In China:
伵固𠇍圓。
Hũnh a đỉt yúin.

I have some money. (literally I have some yuan)
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Thu 18 Jan 2018, 06:03

Last post for awhile I swear [xD]. I got snowed in today and managed to have some time to conlang
邊 (Hãnh/Pưnh/Pen/Men)
The character 邊 is a very common character and as of right now is the only character to have at least 4 different pronunciations depending on the situation

Hãnh
When the character has this pronunciation it means riverside/river bank

Pưnh
Only occurs in the Ởnh·Vú word for Phnom Penh: 岑邊 (Sũm·Pưnh)

Pen
This pronunciation is the form used in Sinic loanwords. When used alone it means the edge/side of a shape

Men
Only occurs as a suffix in the words below where it turns prepositions into nouns:
Spoiler:
𤲂邊 (÷Men)- Below/Bottom/Downside
𨕭邊 (Ả·Men)- Above/Top/Upside
行邊 (Ánh·Men)- Across/The Opposite Side
𠓀邊 (Ãp·Men)- The Time Before
𠓀梗邊 (Ãp·Khã·Men)- Front/Façade
自邊 (Đì·Men)- The Time Since
𥪝邊 (Đrãm·Men)- Interior/Inside
梗邊 (Gã·Men)- Side (Area Beside Something/Someone)
𧵆邊 (Gè·Men)- Vicinity/Nearby
耒邊 (Húy·Men)- The Time After
外邊 (Nio·Men)- Exterior/Outside
除邊 (Sả·Men)- Exception
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Wed 24 Jan 2018, 06:44

To show how important tones and Chữ Nôm are to Ởnh·Vú here's some pretty far fetched sentences to illustrate the point [:)]

𠃣今夏爸磨黃𧶮𦮲於𨑗𧶮亞洲。啊!亞、固𨕭𦮲吧固𤲂爸吧啞𧶮鴨固。
Gim·ã ã ả ả mờ á đi ả mờ à·chu. Á! À, a ả á đãn a ã ã đãn ã mờ ã a.
this-summer father sharpen orange PART root PREP upper PART Asia EXCLAM yes is above root PART is below father PART mute PART duck is
This summer, my father sharpened an orange root in upper Asia. Ah! Yes, there was a mute duck that was above the root but below my father.
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by Parlox » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 07:31

Ởnh·Vú reminds me of Vietnamese, i like it.
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by Frislander » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 18:33

Parlox wrote:
Fri 26 Jan 2018, 07:31
Ởnh·Vú reminds me of Vietnamese, i like it.
Well to be fair I get that feeling with any language written in Quoc Ngu. The really astounding thing to me is trying to get my head round how this is even Austronesian.

Actually thinking about it, have you shown us the sound changes yet All4Ɇn? Cause I'd really like to take a look at what's got the language to this point.
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Fri 26 Jan 2018, 22:07

Parlox wrote:
Fri 26 Jan 2018, 07:31
Ởnh·Vú reminds me of Vietnamese, i like it.
Thanks! Glad to hear it [:)]
Frislander wrote:
Fri 26 Jan 2018, 18:33
Actually thinking about it, have you shown us the sound changes yet All4Ɇn? Cause I'd really like to take a look at what's got the language to this point.
I did awhile ago but the number of changes has grown since. Sorry that they're not organized that well as of right now.
Spoiler:
əu -> ư
aw -> o
mu-> vu
mua ->va
ia -> ey
n-> nh (final in non sino words)
bl & br-> v
pl, pr, pn, kr kl -> s and ả tone
gl & gr-> g
b d g-> ꞗ d kh Intervocalic (may appear initially as the result of prefixes being dropped including tə mə and sometimes pə)
Voiceless initial syllable ending in glottal stop takes á tone
Voiced initial syllable ending in glottal stop takes à tone
Voiceless initial syllable ending in s/h takes ả tone
Voiced initial syllable ending in s/h takes ã tone
N followed by ə or u becomes a final n
B/Đ/Đr/G/R followed by ə or u at the end of the word drops the vowel and turns consonant voiceless (Đr becomes ch). Vowel before gets à tone
Consonant preceded and followed by the same vowel ->vowel with ã tone
əi -> ơy
M between vowels is dropped and adds á tone to vowel before it
aəi -> ưy
aia-> ưy
Long vowels give ã tone
ow -> o
ai -> ưy
ailan ->ưinh
atus ->ảch or ãch if syllable starts with voiced consonant
ŋuo->vo
jr-> gi (causes syllable to end in r if it doesn’t have final)
jw-> gi (causes syllable to become a diphthong with w if not one already)
ɨu-> u
ʑ->gi
iu-> u
iuɪ- uy
ɢʷ->g
ɢʷe/ɢʷo-> quo
kwə->quo
Aspirated consonants give high tone. Aspirated and low tone give ã tone
pˠ ->b
kˠ-> g
ʈˠ-> d
ŋˠ->v
ɳ(ˠ)-> n
ʉɐ -> ư
ʉi -> ưy
bˠ- b, vowel after gets à tone
gˠ- g, vowel after gets à tone
d͡ʒˠ- đr, vowel after gets à tone
ɖˠ(i) ->đr
ʔɲ and ʔj -> y, vowel after gets à
ᴇu -> ơ
atri-> ách if final
iᴇu-> ơ
ᴇue and iuᴇi-> ơy
siuᴇ-> xơ
siuᴇt-> xơt
iᴇ-> e
ura -> ở
ua/uɑ/uə-> ư
uya and uja-> ứy
ɳɨʌ/ŋɨʌ -> vu
ɨʌ- u
eŋ -> ơŋ
zi-> gi
uᴇ->uy
iuᴇ-> yuy if initial, uy otherwise
ʃˠ- r
ia-> ư
ɦˠ -> dropped but gives á tone
ʔˠ-> dropped but gives à tone
h after a voiced consonant is dropped and gives previous syllable ã tone
ey-> í after voiceless, ì after voiced except in Chinese loanwords
aŋi/ani-> ay
uŋa->uy
an-> á before a voiceless consonant
apuy-> ư
upa/uha- ủo
asey- axí
iya-> ứy
ɨ-> i if only letter in syllable
eu->eo
ayau- áo
idung-> yùnh initially
ikan-> yãnh initially
na-> n finally
ular-> vãr initially
ula-> ão
abuy-> ũy
adu and ayu- ao
aʔu-> áo (after voiceless) and ào (after voiced)
aʔə and aʔi-> ái (after voiceless) and ài (after voiced)
əʔa-> ới (after voiceless) and ời (after voiced)
tey->chí (not in Chinese loanwords)
inay-> ính
uken-> úinh
uñit-> ũit
ulan->lan initially
ulang-> lanh initially
tl-> tr initially
hijow-> gio
ako, aku-> ao
akuay->ứy
aki-> ai
ȵɨ-> n
ȵiᴇ-> ne
ʈɨɐ-> tra
ʈɨu-> tru
ʈˠiᴇu-> trơ
ʈˠiᴇ-> tre
t͡ɕɨo-> cho
t͡ɕʰiuɪ-> chúy
t͡sɨo ʈɨo-> tro
t͡sʰɨu-> trú
ɖɨo->đro
ɕɨ->x
sl-> x
ɖɨɐ-> đra
iæ->ư
(u)ʌi- ưy
au-> ao
ɦˠ(u)->v
ɨo-> ưo
urey->ure
sˠ-> s
ɨɐ-> ư
hl-> kh
uli-> uy
ulit->uich
ɦw hw-> v and gives á tone
High and low tone together combine to ã
ã and à tone together combine to ả
ã and á tone together combine to á
ã and ả tone together combine to ả
á and ả tone together combine to ã
à and ả tone together combine to ả
sei->xí
ji, jɨ and jiᴇ-> i if only syllable
inam and inum -> ín
arum -> áom
udey->úy
uɛi->úy
iᴇ(i)-> e
sr> x
atə-> ái (after voiceless) and ài (after voiced)
əa -> a
ahirah -> ảir
sira-> xá
hˠ-> dropped but gives á tone
ʔamrec-> ảich
asin-> ảinh
tj-> ch
ŋs-> nh adds ả tone if voiceless and ã tone if voiced
ns-> n adds ả tone if voiceless and ã tone if voiced
tikus-> chỏ
sia-> xey
ŋəu-> vơu
ŋɨɐ-> vư
ʃɨo-> xo
jiᴇ-> e
d͡ziuᴇ -> giuy
ariaŋ-> ưinh
zɨɐ -> gia
kjo-> kơy
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Mon 29 Jan 2018, 04:43

Names of Latin Letters
Surprised I haven't done this yet. Unsurprisingly, letter names are typically based on their pronunciation in French.
Aa- /a˦˧˥/
Bb- /ɓe˦˧˥/
Ꞗꞗ- /βe˦˧˥/
Cc- /se˦˧˥/
Ch- /t͡ɕe˦˧˥/ (Formerly considered it's own letter of the alphabet, this isn't the case anymore but it's still sometimes used in spelling aloud)
Dd- /ðe˦˧˥/
Đđ- /ɗe˦˧˥/
Ee- /e˦˧˥/
*Ff- /ep̚˧˥/
Gg- /d͡ʑe˦˧˥/
Hh- /hac̚˧˥/
Ii- /i˦˧˥/
*Jj- /d͡ʑi˦˧˥/
Kk- /ka˦˧˥/
Ll- /lə˧˥/
Mm- /em˧˥/
Nn- /en˧˥/
Oo- /o˦˧˥/
Ơơ- /ə˦˧˥/
Pp- /pe˦˧˥/
Qq- /ku˦˧˥/
Rr- /eɻ˧˥/
Ss- /et̚˧˥/
Tt- /te˦˧˥/
Uu- /u˦˧˥/
Ưư- /ɨ˦˧˥/
Vv- /we˦˧˥/
*Ww- /ɗup̚˧˩we˦˧˥/
Xx- /ic̚˧˥/
Yy- /i˧˩ɣet̚˧˥/
*Zz- /zet̚˧˥/

*Not usually considered part of the Ởnh·Vú alphabet. Only used in direct borrowings.
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Mon 29 Jan 2018, 23:25

Invertebrates

Mollusks
沃 (Ão)- Snail
貝 (Bữy)- Cowrie
𧤁貝 (Tuich·Bữy)- Conch Shell (literally Horn Cowrie)
鸚鵡螺 (Ènh·Mứo·Lư)- Nautilus
掘足 (Gut·Troc)- Tusk Shell
蝼沃 (Hãot·Ão)- Slug (literally Caterpillar Snail)
魷ヌ (Hu·Hu)- Cuttlefish
䘃 (Mơc)- Squid
妖䘃 (Ờ·Mơc)- Octopus (literally Goblin Squid)
法螺 (Pưp·Lư)- Triton's Trumpet
硨𤿍 (Sảnh·Sủit)- Clam/Shellfish/Seashell/Mussel (literally Clam Shell)

Insects
𧋅穌 (Cu·To)- Louse
蛛䖡 (Cu·Tõc)- Grasshopper
葷蜅 (Cữ·Rưy)- Stinkbug
蟡 (Dõ)- Cicada
甲蟲 (Gap·Đùnh)- Rhinoceros Beetle
長戟大甲蟲 (Tránh·Gưc·Đày·Gap·Đùnh)- Hercules Beetle
金蟲 (Ghim·Đùnh)- Scarab Beetle/Dung Beetle
蝼 (Hãot)- Caterpillar
螉 (Hõnh)- Yellowjacket/Hornet
𧋂尼 (Hu·Ni)- (Honey) Bee
𧓭ヌ(Mỉt·Mỉt)- Cricket
𧋟 (Mữr)- Termite
𧋟 (Naoc)- Mosquito
烏蜅 (O·Rưy)- Beetle (literally Black Bug)
蠟 (Ở)- Bedbug
𠖤祝 (Pơr·Chù)- (Female) Butterfly (literally Flying Zhù)
𠖤梁 (Pơr·Lưnh)- Male Butterfly (literally Flying Liáng)
𠖤蛾 (Pơr·Na)- Moth (literally Flying Moth)
蜂 (Pứo)- Wasp/Bee
蜆𥦝 (Si·Dơm)- Ant
𧋃蛉 (Tã·Mé)- Damselfly
𧋃蜓 (Tã·Pãr)- Dragonfly
螢ヌ (Ứn·Ứn)- Firefly
蝗ヌ (Vãnh·Vãnh)- Locust

Arachnids/Myriapods
捲ヌ (Gũnh·Gũnh)- Millipede (literally Roll Roll)
蠍𡂀 (Kí·Khào)- Scorpion
蝎𤗲 (Lim·Pãn)- Centipede
蛛 (Vay)- Spider

Crustaceans
𩵽 (Dãnh)- Shrimp/Prawn/Lobster/Crayfish
海螯𩵽 (Hứy·Nao·Dãnh)- Clawed Lobster (literally Ocean Clawed Lobster)
滝𩵽 (Nã·Dãnh)- (Rock) Lobster (literally Naga Shrimp)
蛄𩵽 (Quo·Dãnh)- Crayfish (literally Crayfish Shrimp)
捲𤿍 (Gũnh·Sủit)- Woodlouse/Isopod (literally Rolling Shell)
蠏 (Ưinh)- Crab
捲蠏 (Gũnh·Ưinh)- Giant Isopod (literally Rolling Crab)
鱟 (Sửinh)- Horseshoe Crab

Miscellaneous
蠶 (Đam)- Silkworm
疝 (Hãot)- Parasitic Worm/Tapeworm
海𣋀𦉱 (Hứy·Bi·Tủ)- Starfish (literally Sea Star)
海葻 (Hứy·Bun)- Sea Anemone (literally Sea Flower)
吸蟲 (Íp·Đùnh)- Fluke/Trematode
𧉙 (Lãnh)- Worm/Earthworm
螞䓡 (Lin·Tả)- Buffalo Leech/Horse Leech/Asian Medicinal Leech
蟯蟲 (Ơ·Đùnh)- Pinworm
珊瑚 (San·Hư)- Coral
𩸲 (Sãonh)- Jellyfish
𧋘 (Sủm)- Leech or To Leech
瀝 (Vả)- Sponge
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by Dormouse559 » Tue 30 Jan 2018, 00:47

All4Ɇn wrote:
Mon 29 Jan 2018, 23:25
捲蠏 (Gũnh·Ưinh)- Giant Isopod (literally Rolling Crab)
I didn't know what a giant isopod is until I googled it just now. [:S] I'll stick to my roly-polies, thank you very much, but I like how you derived the name.
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Tue 30 Jan 2018, 00:48

Dormouse559 wrote:
Tue 30 Jan 2018, 00:47
All4Ɇn wrote:
Mon 29 Jan 2018, 23:25
捲蠏 (Gũnh·Ưinh)- Giant Isopod (literally Rolling Crab)
I didn't know what a giant isopod is until I googled it just now. [:S] I'll stick to my roly-polies, thank you very much, but I like how you derived the name.
[xD]. They've kind of become a meme the past couple of weeks surprisingly!
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Tue 30 Jan 2018, 20:10

First Grade Chữ Nôm
I've been working on this for awhile. Here is the complete list of 226 characters that would be learned in 1st grade in Ởnh·Vú speaking schools:

一二三四五六七八九十廿百千𠬠𠄩𠀧𦊚𠄼𦒹𦉱𠔭𠃩𨑮𤾓𠦳扜𠊛ヌ茹丁人家仉奴𡛔𡥵倅伵𠋥伴伮𠵴些众戶爸媄母偀㛪怡小大調欣庯女男𤴓爫固罖曰卜迻嗔𥄬步𧼋吏行别得芒平䀡要抷被𠰺穌員庄空唯吧𠫾咳主長𡘯高校場才好心𢚸捉眜𠰘亙𢬣名姓𥏍户中囻國亞法意美事外坦𡐙渃日月𦝄本𨑗𨑜上下兀尸𠃣了只飫㳹咹用𨅸立𣳮𢞅㦖少開汝車字學册書生先𡶀山仚𡊲焒火葻漗邊天氣方𣎃丿𣇞之𣈜䄫旬年𢆥正冬腊𣗓㫻悲仍爲𠮩丕咍吵𢧚𧶮䘹於在头唄𥪝𧵆梗𠓀耒𨕭𤲂除窒喂埃咦牢兜𣅶時𠇍𧘇呢妬低恪哿为物侶佛李呂穉朱菛丐回𧷺第
Spoiler:
一It- 1
二Nì- 2
三Sam- 3
四Sì- 4
五Vó- 5
六Luc- 6
七Tít- 7
八Bet- 8
九Cú- 9
十Gip- 10
廿Nip- 20
百Bac- 100
千Tén- 1000
𠬠Sa- 1
𠄩Đư- 2
𠀧Sỏ- 3
𦊚Pãt- 4
𠄼Ley- 5
𦒹Nam- 6
𦉱Tủ- 7
𠔭Sưinh- 8
𠃩Lảnh- 9
𨑮Sủ- 10
𤾓Rãch- 100
𠦳Ri- 1000
扜Ꞗo- Phonetic Character
𠊛Ởnh- Person
ヌ- Repeats Previous Character
茹Sãnh- House/Home
丁Tenh- Person or A Given Name
人Nin- Person
家Ga- House
仉Ta- Man
奴No- Phonetic Character
𡛔In/Bính-Woman
𡥵Ãc- Child
倅Cư- I (Informal)
伵Hũnh- I (Formal)
𠋥Hanh- You (Informal With Family And Close Friends)
伴Bàn- You (Informal With People Who Aren’t Family/Close Friends)
伮Nu- He/She It
𠵴Cứy- We
些Ta- We (Inclusive)
众Đrơy- We (Exclusive)/Reflexive
戶Ghep- They
爸Ã- Father
媄Đơ/Dơ- Mother
母Mé/Mứ- Mother
偀Ay- Elder Sibling
㛪A- Younger Sibling
怡Dì- Phonetic Character
小Sớ- Small
大Đày- Big
𠏳Páo- Same
欣Cởnh- Than
庯Po- Mister
女Vú- Woman
男Nơm- Man
𤴓Dõc- Topic Particle
爫Bưt- Do
固A- Have
罖Nãnh- Be
曰Chí- Write
卜Cup- Grab
迻Ví- Give
嗔Đũ- Ask/Request
𥄬Đĩ- Sleep
步Lảt- Go
𧼋Đưc- Run
吏Mãy/Lừ- Come
行Ánh/Hanh/Ành- Through
别Tó- Know
得Mat/Tec- Receive
芒Bà- Carry
平Bành- Flat
䀡Bũ- See
要Ghẽ/Ơ/Ờ- Tired
抷Pơ/∅- Causative Particle
被Đram- Passive Particle
𠰺Ba- Teach
穌To- Phonetic Character
員Quon- Person
庄Bè/Bũ- Negative Particle
空Ỏ/Cúnh/Cũnh- Without
唯Bèy- Yes
吧Đãn- Compound Verb Particle
𠫾No- Imperative Particle
咳Ich- 1st Person Plural Imperative Marker
主Chó- Lord
長Tránh- Leader
𡘯Sỏnh- Big
高Cao- High
校Ão/Gão- School
場Đranh- Place
才Tưy- Talented
好Háo/Hào- Like
心Sim- Heart
𢚸Buit- Soul
捉Áo- Head
眜Mã- Eye
𠰘Bả- Mouth
亙Cãy- Leg
𢬣Tãnh- Arm
名Menh- Reputation
姓Sènh- Surname
𥏍Ãnh- (Given) Name
户Húo- Surname
中Trunh/Trùnh- Middle
囻Nãr- Country
國Quoc- Country
亞À- Yes or Asia
法Pưp/Pẻp- Law or France
意Ỳ- Thought or Italy
美Mí- Beauty
事Trừ/Đrư- Act
外Nio/Vày- Out
坦Rứy- Earth
𡐙Lơn- Earth
渃Yar- Water
日Nit- Sun
月Nưt- Moon
𦝄Vãn- Moon
本Pứn- Origin
𨑗Ả- Up
𨑜Gũ/Gỡ- Down
上Giánh- Up
下Á- Down
兀Lơ- Much
尸Ꞗẽ- Phonetic Character
𠃣Dĩt- Few
了Lu- Too
只Sỏ- Only
飫Ꞗẽ- More
㳹Mín- Drink
咹Bơnh- Eat
用Vão/Yừonh- Use
𨅸Đơnh- Stand
立Lip- Stand
𣳮Ro- Wash
𢞅Rãm- Love
㦖Kéinh- Want
少Xớ- Need
開Cứy- Open
汝Dơr- Remember
車Chéy- Car
字Đừ- Character
學Ớc- Study
册Sởt- Book
書Xu- Letter
生Rành- Life
先Khỏ/Sèn- First
𡶀Chơt- Mountain
山Ren- Mountain
仚Xàm- Bedroom
𡊲Ờ- Room
焒Ử- Fire
火Hứ- Fire
葻Bun- Flower
漗Sỏnh- River
邊Hãnh/Pưnh/Pen/Men- Side
天Tén- Heaven
氣Kĩ- Aura
方Pưnh- Way
𣎃Van- Month
丿Pun/Pét- Minute
𣇞Đrả- Hour
之Mớ- Second
𣈜U/Ur- Day
䄫Re- Phonetic Character
旬Giuin- Week
年Nen- Year
𢆥Tún- Year
正Chènh- Correct
冬Tuonh- Winter
腊Lap- December
征Pở- First
𣗓Dõc/Ca- Still
㫻Bừ- Often
悲Ỡ- Now
仍Sơnh- And
爲Cao/Yúy/Yũy- Cause
𠮩Lac- If
丕Chành- If
咍Áy/Xãm- Or or Good
吵Yãt- Bad
𢧚Púy- Should
𧶮Mờ- Of
䘹Bừ- Adverb Particle
於Đi- At
在Mơnh/Đứy- From
唄Nanh- With
𥪝Đrãm- In
𧵆Gè- Near
梗Gã/Khã- Beside
𠓀Ãp/Đỉ- Before
耒Húy- After
𨕭Ả- Above
𤲂Ã- Below
除Sả- Except
窒Đay- Very
喂Yờ- Question Particle
埃Xí- Who
咦Hí/Ha/Xi- What
牢Hàt/Khet- How
兜Lơnh/Đĩn- Place
𣅶Đrã- Time (Present/Future/Recent Past)
時Sưy- Time (Distant Past)
𠇍Đỉt/Haom- Some
𧘇Ãnh- That
呢Ní- This
妬Đĩ- There
低Ti- Here
恪Búinh- Other
哿A/Sa- All or Firstborn
为Ꞗĩ- Phonetic Character
物Mut/Vut- Thing
侶Lú- Friend
佛But- Buddha
李Lứ- A Given Name
呂Lứ- A Give Name
穉Đã/Da- Child
朱Cơ/∅- Indirect Object Marker
菛Yàm- Food
丐Cà- Beg
回Vi- Turn
𧷺Bõ- Round
第Đè- Ordinal Prefix
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by Iyionaku » Mon 05 Feb 2018, 10:35

I love that you actually use 廿.

But why are there two different ways to count to 10? And - follow up - why would you require first graders to learn both at the same time or shortly after? I personally would say you should postpone the second series (if there is any connotation to it, like business counting) to the second grade at least.
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Tue 06 Feb 2018, 15:11

Iyionaku wrote:
Mon 05 Feb 2018, 10:35
I love that you actually use 廿.
Thanks! [:D]. It's only used a few situations but I think it's a great character personally
Iyionaku wrote:
Mon 05 Feb 2018, 10:35
But why are there two different ways to count to 10? And - follow up - why would you require first graders to learn both at the same time or shortly after? I personally would say you should postpone the second series (if there is any connotation to it, like business counting) to the second grade at least.
The second series is the one inherited from Proto-Chamic and is used alone or with many counters up to 1000. The first series is borrowed from Middle Chinese and is used in a large number of counters (often related to time or measurement but not always). The first system is also used for all numbers above 1000 in all cases. Take for instance the counter for animals 𡓋 (Y) which uses the native numbers: 𠃩𤾓𠃩𨑮𠃩𡓋 (Lảnh·Rãch·Lảnh·Sủ·Lảnh Y)- 999 animals; 𠦳扜𡓋 (Ri·Ꞗo Y)- 1000 animals; 千一𡓋 (Tén·It Y)- 1001 animals.

As both number sets are incredibly useful it makes sense to me that both would be learned around the same time. Plus the Chinese number set's characters are some of the easiest Hanzi out there for children to learn and their potentially more used Chữ Nôm counterparts are written using those Chinese numerals as radicals.
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by janKowase » Wed 07 Feb 2018, 01:18

I've always found it sad that there weren't more conlangs with Hanzi. This is awesome!
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Post by All4Ɇn » Wed 07 Feb 2018, 15:39

janKowase wrote:
Wed 07 Feb 2018, 01:18
I've always found it sad that there weren't more conlangs with Hanzi. This is awesome!
Thanks so much! Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see [:)]
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Re: Ởnh·Vú- Chamic Language

Post by All4Ɇn » Wed 07 Feb 2018, 16:19

西 (Yủ/Xí/Ga)
Thought I'd continue talking about some of the common characters with varied pronunciations and 西 is by far one of the most common characters in Ởnh·Vú

Yủ
This is the pronunciation used when the character is alone. With this pronunciation the character means west


This is the pronunciation used in Chinese loanwords such as in the word for Southwest: 西南 (Xí·Nơm). In addition to occurring in Chinese loans, this pronunciation is very common as a phonetic character in non-Sinic words such as the following below:
𨫊西 (Bơ·Xí)- Iron
𣷷西 (Ta·Xí)- Ocean
粓西 (La·Xí)- Cooked Rice or Meal
西子 (Xí·Tứ)- Saw

Ga
This pronunciation only occurs in one of the few Ởnh·Vú instances of a jukujikun phrase. As the words for Breakfast: 𤎜粓西 (Gữ·La·Xí) & Lunch: 𣊿粓西 (Sảm·La·Xí) translate literally to Morning Meal and Afternoon Meal, the word for Dinner: 𣎀粓西 (Ba·Mỡnh·Ga) is written with the characters for Night Meal despite the pronunciation for all 3 characters being completely different.
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