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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Zythros Jubi » Wed 20 Jul 2016, 19:43

First change: Prepositions become postpositions; a <y> is inserted after a vowel ending.

Second change: Auxillary verbs become suffixes.

<Siddingam I chairayin right now while watchingis familymy TV show terrifyingayon.>

/ˈsɪdɪŋæm aɪ̯ t͡ʃɛə̯ɹeɪ̯jɪn ɹaɪ̯t naʊ̯ waɪ̯l ˈwɑt͡ʃɪŋɪz ˈfæmɪlimaɪ ˈtivi ʃoʊ ˈtɛɹɪfaɪ̯ɪŋ̯eɪj̯̯ɔn/
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Ebon » Wed 20 Jul 2016, 21:46

(Is there a reason you shifted the article from show to terrifying? And since they're watching the show on TV, shouldn't on be attached to TV instead?)
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by shimobaatar » Thu 21 Jul 2016, 00:27

Ebon wrote:(Is there a reason you shifted the article from show to terrifying? And since they're watching the show on TV, shouldn't on be attached to TV instead?)
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Ebon » Tue 26 Jul 2016, 22:15

It's been almost a week, can we correct it if Zythros Jubi isn't clarifying it and go on?
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by shimobaatar » Tue 26 Jul 2016, 22:16

Ebon wrote:It's been almost a week, can we correct it if Zythros Jubi isn't clarifying it and go on?
Sure, I'd say go ahead.
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Ebon » Tue 26 Jul 2016, 22:29

Sentence corrected:
<Siddingam I chairayin right now while watchingis familymy TVon showa terrifying>
/ˈsɪdɪŋæm aɪ̯ t͡ʃɛə̯ɹeɪ̯jɪn ɹaɪ̯t naʊ̯ waɪ̯l ˈwɑt͡ʃɪŋɪz ˈfæmɪlimaɪ ˈtiviɔn ʃoʊeɪ ˈtɛɹɪfaɪ̯ɪŋ̯/


First change: Instead of conjugation, verbs now incorporate the appropriate pronouns. This happens even if a noun takes place of the pronoun in a normal English sentence.

Second change: Spelling changes to remove doubled consonants. Pronunciation isn't impacted.

<Sidingbei chairayin right now while watchingbeit familymy TVon showa terifying>

/ˈsɪdɪŋbiːaɪ̯ t͡ʃɛə̯ɹeɪ̯jɪn ɹaɪ̯t naʊ̯ waɪ̯l ˈwɑt͡ʃɪŋbiːɪt ˈfæmɪlimaɪ ˈtiviɔn ʃoʊeɪ ˈtɛɹɪfaɪ̯ɪŋ̯/
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Creyeditor » Wed 27 Jul 2016, 00:37

<Sidingbei chairayin right now while watchingbeit familymy TVon showa terifying>

/ˈsɪdɪŋbiːaɪ̯ t͡ʃɛə̯ɹeɪ̯jɪn ɹaɪ̯t naʊ̯ waɪ̯l ˈwɑt͡ʃɪŋbiːɪt ˈfæmɪlimaɪ ˈtiviɔn ʃoʊeɪ ˈtɛɹɪfaɪ̯ɪŋ̯/[/quote]

The -ing suffix falls out of use.

<Sidbei chairayin right now while watchbeit familymy TVon showa terify>

/ˈsɪdbiːaɪ̯ t͡ʃɛə̯ɹeɪ̯jɪn ɹaɪ̯t naʊ̯ waɪ̯l ˈwɑt͡ʃbiːɪt ˈfæmɪlimaɪ ˈtiviɔn ʃoʊeɪ ˈtɛɹɪfaɪ̯/[/quote]
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Ebon » Wed 27 Jul 2016, 00:53

English is now a gendered language with masculine and feminine nouns. Articles, possessive pronouns and adjectives need to agree with gender.
The feminine gender retains the current set, with the adjective ending being <a> /eɪ̯/.

The masculine gender uses this set:
a -> e /ɛ/
my -> mu /mʊ/
Adjective ending: u /ʊ/

Let chair be feminine and show and family be masculine.


<Sidbei chairayin right now while watchbeit familymu TVon showe terifyu>

/ˈsɪdbiːaɪ̯ t͡ʃɛə̯ɹeɪ̯jɪn ɹaɪ̯t naʊ̯ waɪ̯l ˈwɑt͡ʃbiːɪt ˈfæmɪlimʊ ˈtiviɔn ʃoʊɛ ˈtɛɹɪfaɪ̯ʊ/
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by shimobaatar » Wed 27 Jul 2016, 01:49

First change: /oʊɛ eɪ̯jɪ iːɪ iːaɪ̯ iɔ/ > /oʊ̯ɛ eɪ̯ɪ iːjɪ iːjaɪ̯ ijɔ/

Second change: "right now" becomes one word.


<Sidbei chairayin rightnow while watchbeit familymu TVon showe terifyu>

/ˈsɪdbiːjaɪ̯ t͡ʃɛə̯ɹeɪ̯ɪn ɹaɪ̯tnaʊ̯ waɪ̯l ˈwɑt͡ʃbiːjɪt ˈfæmɪlimʊ ˈtivijɔn ʃoʊ̯ɛ ˈtɛɹɪfaɪ̯ʊ/
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by opipik » Wed 27 Jul 2016, 07:56

Spoiler:
i/ɪ/_/_ː
oʊ̯/o/_
aɪ̯/ɛ/_
aʊ̯/ɔ/_
[æɑ]/ɐ/_
ɹ/ð/_
ð/d/_
Z/S/_C
h/ʔ/_
s/h/_
t͡ʃ/s/_
ʃ/s/_
ː//_
eɪ̯/e/_
ə̯//_
ˈ//_
<Hitbiiye sedeein detno wel wasbiiyit familimu tiviyon sooe tedifeu>
/hɪtbijɛ sɛdeɪn dɛtnɔ wɛl wɐsbijɪt fɐmɪlɪmʊ tɪvɪjɔn soɛ tɛdɪfɛʊ/
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Ebon » Wed 14 Sep 2016, 13:20

It's pretty clear nobody wanted to add anything to the previous sentence, so I'll just go ahead and post a new one.

<I want to know why the letter I sent three weeks ago still hasn't arrived.>
/aɪ wɒnt tuː nəʊ waɪ ðə ˈlɛtə aɪ sɛnt θɹiː wiːks əˈgəʊ stɪl ˈhæznt əˈɹaɪvd./

I hope I didn't fuck up the IPA eep
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Creyeditor » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 23:16

<I want to know why the letter I sent three weeks ago still hasn't arrived.>
/aɪ wɒnt tuː nəʊ waɪ ðə ˈlɛtə aɪ sɛnt θɹiː wiːks əˈgəʊ stɪl ˈhæznt əˈɹaɪvd./

Subject pronouns become proclitics (also unstressed).

<Iwant to know why the letter Isent three weeks ago still hasn't arrived.>
/əwɒnt tuː nəʊ waɪ ðə ˈlɛtə əsɛnt θɹiː wiːks əˈgəʊ stɪl ˈhæznt əˈɹaɪvd./
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Ebon » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 23:21

Definite nouns are marked by suffix <e> /ə/.
Plosives between vowels are voiced.

<Iwant to know why leddere Isent three weeks ago still hasn't arrived.>
/əwɒnt tuː nəʊ waɪ ˈlɛdəɹə əsɛnt θɹiː wiːks əˈgəʊ stɪl ˈhæznt əˈɹaɪvd./
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Creyeditor » Wed 21 Sep 2016, 23:46

<Iwant to know why leddere Isent three weeks ago still hasn't arrived.>
/əwɒnt tuː nəʊ waɪ ˈlɛdəɹə əsɛnt θɹiː wiːks əˈgəʊ stɪl ˈhæznt əˈɹaɪvd./

Past and perfect collapse and are formed with the auxillary 'did' + participle.

<Iwant to know why leddere Idid sent three weeks ago still didn't arrived.>
/əwɒnt tuː nəʊ waɪ ˈlɛdəɹə ədid sɛnt θɹiː wiːks əˈgəʊ stɪl ˈhæznt əˈɹaɪvd./
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by opipik » Fri 23 Sep 2016, 17:59

Spoiler:
u/y/_/_ː
əʊ/ʏ/_
e/ɘ/_
aɪ/ɛ/_
ɪ/e/_
o/ʊ/_
i/ɨ/_/_ː
ɨ/ʊ/_
ɒ/ɔ/_
θ/s/_/_i
θ/f/_
ɹ/r/_
[ʏy]/ɪ/_
e/ɛː/_
æ/ɛ/_
o/ɔ/_
<Iwant to know why leddere Isent three weeks ago still hasn't arrived.>
[əwɔnt tuː nɪ wɛ ˈlɛdərə ədʊd sɛnt sriː wiːks əˈgɪ stɛːl ˈhɛznt əˈrɛvd.]
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by shimobaatar » Thu 16 Mar 2017, 10:33

First change: Addition of stress marking to every polysyllabic word. Sonorants between two other consonants are clearly marked as syllabic.

Second change: Infinitives don't need to be marked by "to". Past participles are replaced by infinitives.

Third change: Postpositions become prepositions.


<Iwant know why leddere Idid send ago three weeks still hasn't arrive.>

[əˈwɔnt nɪ wɛ ˈlɛdərə əˈdʊd sɛnd əˈgɪ sriː wiːks stɛːl ˈhɛzn̩t əˈrɛv]
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by opipik » Fri 17 Mar 2017, 18:22

Spoiler:
z/r/_
n̩/ən/_
iː/iə/_
ɛː/ɛa/_
aː/aɨ/_
ɔː/ɔa/_
uː/uə/_
oː/o/_
eː/e/_
n/̃/V_C
Z/́S/_#/C_
/́/ˈZV_
/́/V_Z
Z/S/_
́́/́/_
/̃/ˈCV_…̃
̃//_/ˈCV_
<Iwant know why leddere Idid send ago three weeks still ha̱sn't arrive.>

[əˈwɔt ˈnɪ ˈwɛ ˈlɛ́tərə əˈtʊ́t ˈsɛ̃́t əˈkɪ́ sˈriə ˈwiəks sˈtɛal ˈhɛ̃rət əˈrɛv]
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by shimobaatar » Fri 17 Mar 2017, 20:50

First change: Adjectives now follow the nouns they modify. Nouns are no longer marked for number if modified by a numeral.

Second change: Tone notation is updated.

Third change: /j/ is inserted between front vowels and other vowels. /ɪ ʊ/ > /e o/, and vowel nasalization is lost.


<Iwant know why leddere Idid send ago week three still hasn't arrive.>

<Ëwoat ne wea léátërë ëtót séát ëké wijëk srijë steajal hearët ëreav.>

[əˈwɔt˩ ˈne˩ ˈwɛ˩ ˈlɛ˥tərə əˈtot˥ ˈsɛt˥ əˈke˥ ˈwi˩jək ˈsri˩jə ˈstɛ˩jal ˈhɛ˩rət əˈrɛv˩]
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Creyeditor » Fri 17 Mar 2017, 21:12

Next sentence, because I can't read it anymore.

<My dog has arrived. >
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Re: Game: Let's Reform English Grammar

Post by Inkcube-Revolver » Fri 17 Mar 2017, 21:55

Creyeditor wrote:Next sentence, because I can't read it anymore.

<My dog has arrived. >
New rules:
• "have" constructions for the participles affixes to following verb
• [h] is no longer pronounced at onset of words
• possessive/genitival pronouns cliticize to nouns they possess
• diphthongs become monothongs, lengthen when stressed, ex. [aɪ] > [a] but [ˈbaɪ] > [ˈbaː]
• [æ] > [ɛ]

My dog has arrived /maɪ ˈdɔg hæz əˈɹaɪvd/ > /maˈdag ˌɛzəˈɹaːft/
I like my languages how I like my women: grammatically complex with various moods and tenses, a thin line between nouns and verbs, and dozens upon dozens of possible conjugations for every single verb.
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