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Lexicon milestones

Post by Khemehekis » Sat 14 Aug 2010, 22:08

My Shaleyan dictionary has just received its 2,000th word. The word is "wowoy", meaning "marine animal".

This makes Shaleyan the second one of my languages to reach the 2,000 word mark.
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Post by idealis » Sat 14 Aug 2010, 22:32

Congrats on reaching that milestone.

My conlangs have like 9 words each. :-) :-P
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Post by Itsuki Kohaku » Sat 14 Aug 2010, 22:33

idealis wrote:Congrats on reaching that milestone.

My conlangs have like 9 words each. :-) :-P

Mine too. Although I think Makurungou maybe different this time.
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Post by MrKrov » Sat 14 Aug 2010, 23:13

87 codified. Maybe up to 200 counting the rest floating around. Rebooting on a bimonthly basis has its drawbacks.
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Post by Nortaneous » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 13:13

None of mine have any words yet because I spent around a month on the phonology for one and I've spent all the time past that on the diachronics for the other.
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Post by kadani » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 13:25

Congrats! Rejistanian has only 1.7k words at the moment.
Q: Il'isa sike'han suntes?
A: Xe'isa sike'han Sike'tes... kali.

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Post by Arzemju » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 13:58

Congrats ! Is it a priori conlang or a natlang-based conlang?

I'm new to conlanging and have just finished the phoneme inventory for my language, but I plan to have at least 100 words in two weeks (my conlang is an Altaic conlang)
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Post by LetoAtreides » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 15:12

Where can I see your Shaleyan stuff, Khemehekis ? Your work looks very interesting.
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Post by Itsuki Kohaku » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 15:21

New mark: Makurungou has reached 89 words! 89th word: Brïkn: to believe.
In order of knowledge: :eng: :vls: :epo: :fra: :deu: :esp: :jpn: :zho: :fin: :tur: :eus:
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Post by Ossicone » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 15:30

Khemehekis wrote:My Shaleyan dictionary has just received its 2,000th word. The word is "wowoy", meaning "marine animal".
This makes Shaleyan the second one of my languages to reach the 2,000 word mark.
That is pretty ridiculous/cool.
Any suggestions for word lists, beyond the Swadesh?




Inyauk currently has 325 root words. Since it's agglutinating counting actual words would be foolish.
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Post by kadani » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 15:41

Ossicone wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:My Shaleyan dictionary has just received its 2,000th word. The word is "wowoy", meaning "marine animal".
This makes Shaleyan the second one of my languages to reach the 2,000 word mark.
That is pretty ridiculous/cool.
Any suggestions for word lists, beyond the Swadesh?




Inyauk currently has 325 root words. Since it's agglutinating counting actual words would be foolish.
I personally do not recommend word lists, they make relexing an existing language too likely. I recommend writing and translating lots in your conlang to get an idea of what is lacking. Though depending on how well-developped a conlang is, word lists might be a good idea. However, word lists will not give you the words like 'xikila (to qualify via 2 independent ways) and 'exala (to do something immoral in the perceived feeling of being unobserved) and to a point, these things give the language flavor. I wrote a bit about vocabulary creation recently: http://rejistania.wordpress.com/2010/08 ... a-conlang/
Q: Il'isa sike'han suntes?
A: Xe'isa sike'han Sike'tes... kali.

In contrast to popular perception, I do have a life. I just choose to spend it conlanging.

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Post by Itsuki Kohaku » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 15:50

kadani wrote:
Ossicone wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:My Shaleyan dictionary has just received its 2,000th word. The word is "wowoy", meaning "marine animal".
This makes Shaleyan the second one of my languages to reach the 2,000 word mark.
That is pretty ridiculous/cool.
Any suggestions for word lists, beyond the Swadesh?




Inyauk currently has 325 root words. Since it's agglutinating counting actual words would be foolish.
I personally do not recommend word lists, they make relexing an existing language too likely. I recommend writing and translating lots in your conlang to get an idea of what is lacking. Though depending on how well-developped a conlang is, word lists might be a good idea. However, word lists will not give you the words like 'xikila (to qualify via 2 independent ways) and 'exala (to do something immoral in the perceived feeling of being unobserved) and to a point, these things give the language flavor. I wrote a bit about vocabulary creation recently: http://rejistania.wordpress.com/2010/08 ... a-conlang/



I learned a lot from that article Kadani. I think that it will help me with Makurungou.
In order of knowledge: :eng: :vls: :epo: :fra: :deu: :esp: :jpn: :zho: :fin: :tur: :eus:
Conlangs: :con: Literary Makurungou, :con: Common Makurungou
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Post by Ossicone » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 16:05

kadani wrote:
Ossicone wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:My Shaleyan dictionary has just received its 2,000th word. The word is "wowoy", meaning "marine animal".
This makes Shaleyan the second one of my languages to reach the 2,000 word mark.
That is pretty ridiculous/cool.
Any suggestions for word lists, beyond the Swadesh?
Inyauk currently has 325 root words. Since it's agglutinating counting actual words would be foolish.
I personally do not recommend word lists, they make relexing an existing language too likely. I recommend writing and translating lots in your conlang to get an idea of what is lacking. Though depending on how well-developped a conlang is, word lists might be a good idea. However, word lists will not give you the words like 'xikila (to qualify via 2 independent ways) and 'exala (to do something immoral in the perceived feeling of being unobserved) and to a point, these things give the language flavor. I wrote a bit about vocabulary creation recently: http://rejistania.wordpress.com/2010/08 ... a-conlang/
Agreed. But translating sentences can also have its pitfalls. You have to look out not to copy the sentence directly.

I just find word lists to be a good starting point.

Also, I only just set down a way for compounds to be formed, so I expect a surge in words in the near future.
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Post by SLiV » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 16:38

Word lists are quite usefull at the start. But when you have a decent word lists, you should translate a lot. Another downside of translating is having words that are too specific (e.g. nuclear powerplant), when you lack simpler words (e.g. chair). I'm currently at around 700 root words, but I am moving my lexicon, so there might be a lot more in the future.
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Post by Khemehekis » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 21:19

Arzemju wrote:Congrats ! Is it a priori conlang or a natlang-based conlang?
Thanks. Shaleyan is the official language of the planet Shaleya, spoken by humans who were genetically engineered by the Greys of Tziel to be unable to do evil. They speak a language related to no language on Earth.
I'm new to conlanging and have just finished the phoneme inventory for my language, but I plan to have at least 100 words in two weeks (my conlang is an Altaic conlang)
Post here when you reach the 100 mark!
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31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Post by Khemehekis » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 21:20

kadani wrote:Congrats! Rejistanian has only 1.7k words at the moment.
Thanks! Post here when you reach the 2.0k mark!
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 57,500 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Post by Khemehekis » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 21:35

LetoAtreides wrote:Where can I see your Shaleyan stuff, Khemehekis ? Your work looks very interesting.
I don't have it online anymore, but here are some sentences to give you an impression of Shaleyan:

Pronouns:

ab I, me
esh you (singular)
al he, she, him, her
sak it
en we, us
oph you (plural)
od they, them (animate or mixed)
sod they, them (inanimate)

Dusiz seya.
dusiz eat
The dusiz [species of Shaleyan herbivore] eats.

Seya dusiz.
eat dusiz
Something eats the dusiz. / The dusiz is eaten.

Ab pa al benu upap.
me to she give juice
She gave me some juice.

Footnotes are used for relative clauses:

Salina da mey pakalo lo yomak da payes kholu lo waphan.
girl 1* with boy 2* walk *1 appear_to_be nervous *2 smile
The boy who was smiling walked with a girl who looked worried.

As a side effect of their genetic engineering, Shaleyans are able to remember which footnote attaches to which word.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 57,500 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Post by Khemehekis » Sun 15 Aug 2010, 21:47

Ossicone wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:My Shaleyan dictionary has just received its 2,000th word. The word is "wowoy", meaning "marine animal".
This makes Shaleyan the second one of my languages to reach the 2,000 word mark.
That is pretty ridiculous/cool.
Any suggestions for word lists, beyond the Swadesh?
If you want, I could send you the Landau Core Vocabulary in its current state. Just PM me with your email and I'll send it to your email account.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 57,500 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Post by shur » Mon 16 Aug 2010, 01:57

Khemehekis wrote:My Shaleyan dictionary has just received its 2,000th word. The word is "wowoy", meaning "marine animal".

This makes Shaleyan the second one of my languages to reach the 2,000 word mark.
Congratulations of achieving 2000 words and congrats to everyone else who've achieved a milestone! My conlang has less than 100 word so far, excluding most of the numbers. Do you include numbers in your dictionary? I'm still wondering if I should or keep them on a separate list unless they have another meaning.
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Post by Zio Zihk » Mon 16 Aug 2010, 04:02

Good job, I don't think any of my conlangs surpassed 50 words.
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