I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm glad you've had the time to present this.sangi39 wrote:Going through another busy period at work again, so I've not been able to do as much conlanging as I wanted (basically nothing since the end of July), but I thought I'd throw together some very basic stuff to do with the "minor" conlangs of Yantas mostly to do with morphology, syntax, morphosyntactic alignment, etc.
Any ideas as of now regarding what the split in the alignment will be triggered by?sangi39 wrote:Proto-Tl'arga
Proto-Tl'arga will, I think, have an SVO word-order, be split-ergative, both morphologically and syntactically, and be somewhat fusional or agglutinative, relying more on auxiliaries and particles than conjugating verbs directly and declining nouns.
I guess the same question about how the split is triggered goes for this language as well; also, would it be safe to assume that both of these languages are split between ergative-absolutive and nominative-accusative, and that this language is syntactically nominative-accusative?sangi39 wrote:Proto-Sjikan
Proto-Sjikan will have an SOV word-order and be somewhat split-ergative (morphologically), but only to a fairly limited extent. It would be agglutinative, I think, especially on verbs, in a similar way to Proto-Skawlas, where nouns have fairly minimal morphology but verbs take a large number of morphemes appearing in set slots.
Proto-Sjikan might have a number of different noun classes, perhaps three or four, possibly based on animacy, but how they'll show up, I don't know yet.
Also, good luck deciding how you want to mark noun class. That's always a problem for me, since I don't want to copy the Bantu way of doing things, but that's really my main point of reference for noun classes…
Any ideas as of now for what the different noun classes might be?sangi39 wrote:Proto-Vuluka
Proto-Vuluka would be SVO I think, plainly nom-acc, so moving north to south, this would be the first conlang that doesn't do something weird with its alignment. It will be somewhat inflectional on verbs, but would rely more heavily on syntax and particles to convey grammatical information.
Like Proto-Sjikan, though, it would still have a number of noun classes, which will likely affect verbal conjugation, in a similar manner to Proto-Sirdic, but the number of noun classes might be somewhat higher, possibly around about 8.
Sounds very interesting! I'm curious to see what your plans are for noun incorporation in a language with rather heavily marked nouns and minimally marked verbs.sangi39 wrote:Proto-Gdrenk
I wanted Proto-Gdrenk to go in the opposite direction with morphology, being quite inflectional, possibly agglutinative, in relation to nouns (encoding for number, case and whether the noun is possessed or not), but with minimal marking on verbs (possibly just direction or manner and possibly person). Like Proto-Vuluka, it would be nom-acc and SVO. There wouldn't be much in the way of noun classes, though, possibly none. This, as well, is where I also want to try out noun-incorporation.
I guess my split-ergative questions from above apply to this language as well… should I have just moved things around and grouped these together? Anyway, do you have any ideas currently as to the number of classifiers you want the language to have?sangi39 wrote:Proto-Kalabi
Proto-Kalabi would be predominantly isolating, relying a lot on word order (SVO), and would be split-ergative in some respects. Like Lesi Kirra, there would be some kind of noun class system, but this might behave more like the classifiers of Japanese and the Chinese languages.
Do you think you might mark specificity in addition to definiteness, or would you prefer to keep things relatively "simple", for lack of a better word, in that area?sangi39 wrote:Proto-Feluo
Proto-Feluo will be SOV and heavily agglutinative, although there may be some affixes which indicate more than one piece of grammatical information, e.g. definiteness and number. Like the other languages of Sirden so far mentioned, it will be predominantly nom-acc and might have a few noun classes.
Do you have any ideas as of now for what you want to mark on verbs and/or nouns?sangi39 wrote:Proto-Mesit
Proto-Mesit, as mentioned in previous posts, will likely be agglutinative and subject to vowel harmony. It will be SVO and nom-acc. Verbs will be more heavily inflected than nouns, but nouns will take a fair degree of marking too.
Ah, it seems we have similar goals. Achieving that level of detail is no easy task, but I wish you the best of luck, and I look forward to seeing what you come up with as you go along!sangi39 wrote:What I want to do, really, is working on these kind of sporadically, mostly between the "major" language families of Yantas, and on an even lower level, I may try to throw in a few more minor language families, just to fill out the map a bit more. I'm aiming for around 50-60 language families spoken at around 1AD, some over huge areas, some language isolates spoken in a small area.
sangi39 wrote:So something a bit like this: