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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by sangi39 » Fri 29 Jul 2016, 19:19

protondonor wrote:Waiting on tenterhooks to see the next update. [:O]
TIL that it's "tenterhooks". Sorry to go off-topic, but I've never seen that phrase spelt out before.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by IEPH » Sat 30 Jul 2016, 20:05

I'd love to see more of this.

However, I have some feeling that not until the 1980s-1990s could new scientific research come to light (barring new discoveries that the Moroccans have not hidden or torched)
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by qwed117 » Fri 05 Aug 2016, 02:55

December 23, 1980

A Decade in Review: Morocco

A tumultuous decade for Morocco has ended. A 1971 military coup ended disastrously. After allegations of internal corruptions in Morocco surfaced, a Moroccan military leader organized a putsch against the king of Morocco, Hassan of Morocco. He demanded that King Hassan abdicate and establish a republic, taking him hostage inside the Palace of Skhirat, with 800 military cadets. Later that day the coup attempt was quashed by the loyalist faction of the military, which, in a two and half hour long gun fight, managed to retake control of the Palace. Ultimately 1400 rebels died, and an uncounted number of military loyalists. The very next year, another coup failed. A plane carrying the king from Paris was repeatedly fired at by air force agents situated at Kenitra. Luckily the coup was evaded by a false message stating that the king had already died. The plane managed to land at Rabat's airport, which was destroyed by air force jets killing 8, and injuring many. The conspirators were found shot multiple times, officially ruled a suicide.

In 1973, the Polisario Front was founded as a liberation organization for the Spanish Sahara, a colony of Spain. The Polisario front was an evolution of the struggle of independence started by Harakat Tahrir. The revolution in Spanish Sahara suddenly turned violent, as the Polisario front gained more power, removing almost all Spanish influence within barely a year, by overrunning the various Spanish outposts. The ethnic Berber tribe living there, the Sahrawi heavily supported Polisario, making it virtually the strongest force in the entirety of the Region. In 1975, Morocco finally took offensive action towards the Spanish Sahara, which was viewed as ripe for the taking. King Hassan organized a group of 350,000 unarmed civilians guarded by 20,000 soldiers to march into the territory, encountering little resistance. In half a year, Spain gave de jure rule of the Spanish Sahara to Mauretania and Morocco, with Morocco taking the northern half that it called the Southern Provinces , and Mauretania taking the lower half called Tiris al-Gharbiyya. Due to the new threat of a strengthened Morocco and Mauritania, Algeria soon entered the fray, calling for a independence referendum, aiding the Polisario, and launching its own invasion. The invasion was quickly beat back by Moroccan forces, leading to the imminent threat of war.
Although the threat of war between the three powers was quickly averted by diplomacy, the war of attrition with the colonial forces and the nationalist forces had just begun. The Polisario Front, openly aided by Algeria, continued to fight against the new oppressors. The Polisario kept up the guerrilla war while bringing Sahrawi refugees to their refugee camps. Over the next two years, the Polisario continued to get stronger, as the Polisario received funding from Algeria and Libya, and refugees flocked to them. Within months, its army had expanded to several thousand armed fighters, replacing old traditional methods of warfare with stolen equipment. The guerilla force's war of attrition inflicted immense injury to the Moroccan and Mauritanian forces. Eventually, after a coup in 1978, Mauritania ultimately pulled out its force and gave Polisario de jure rights over its portion of the Spanish Sahara, ruining its relationship with Morocco. King Hassan immediately unilaterally claimed Mauritania's old colony.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by shimobaatar » Mon 15 Aug 2016, 01:24

As I'm not very familiar with the history of the region, despite having visited Morocco, I'm curious as to approximately how much of this is based on real-world events?
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by qwed117 » Mon 03 Oct 2016, 01:13

December 22, 1990
A Decade in Review: Morocco

This decade has proven to be a quiet one, for Morocco. While the Soviet Union, Morocco's main benefactor, disintegrates,
much has remained calm in the Western corner of Eurafrasia. The Algerian economy faltered after the oil glut in 1986,
but Morocco's economy has remained stable. The war in the Spanish Sahara has been a resource drain on the economy
and has led to several riots. In 1983, amid economic crisis and political failure, King Hassan IV cancelled planned
parliamentary elections and in 1984, with the addition of Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic into the Organisation of
African Unity, Morocco exited the body, and continued its war with in the Spanish Sahara. Over the course of the first
five years of the decade, the Polisario conflict ultimately claimed the lives of five thousand soldiers. To solidify their
territorial gains, Morocco has built a two thousand kilometre long berm throughout the parts of the Spanish Sahara that
they control, finishing construction in 1987.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by qwed117 » Sun 02 Apr 2017, 05:44

December 22, 2000
A Decade in Review: Morocco
As Morocco enters the new millennium, it leaves without its old figurehead, and in with a new reformist government in power. This likely has been the first time in over 50 years that the government has openly had a protest in Rabat, on an issue no more controversial in the Islamic world than women's rights. Much has changed in this tiny country over the last twenty years, and much seems to be for the better.
In 1991, a ceasefire was finally signed between the Polisario Front and the Moroccan state. Political reform has continued throughout the decade. Famously, the 1996 constitutional reforms expanded the role of the parliament in the country. The new king has released thousands of political prisoners.
Despite gradual reforms and the liberalism of the new leadership, the regime has still refused to endorse the usage of the Berber language, nor do much of the Berber population see it in good light. Teaching of many Berbers languages has increased greatly, but the government has refused to change its no-Berner policy. The 1997 elections are also believed to have been heavily marred with electoral fraud. Much is changing, but to many, it's seems to be changing too slow, too late.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by IEPH » Sun 02 Apr 2017, 19:36

Can we still see more of this.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by qwed117 » Tue 04 Apr 2017, 03:05

December 24, 2010
A Decade in Review: Morocco
Morocco has changed greatly since the old days of the Cold War. Now, as internet penetration has grown greatly over the last decade, politics has changed from lead to internet pages. And Morocco has significantly liberalized in accordance over the last decade.
In 2002, a new parliamentary election occurred. While voter apathy ran high, it was not marred by the same level of corruption and electoral fraud. It ultimately resulted in the Socialist Union of Popular Forces (USFP) becoming the plurality in the Moroccan House of Representatives. This, along with feminist protests in 2000, may have led to the king's decision to enact a new Mudawana. This has greatly improved the rights of women throughout the country. The EU, US, World Bank, and Human Rights Watch have all issued statements in support of the new policy and the new found democratization in Morocco. In 2003, after the birth of the new prince, the government released thousands of political prisoners. The EU characterized the reforms as making Morocco the "most advanced country on the southern shore of the Mediterranean".
At the same time, the country has been marked as a key ally in stopping Islamic terrorism. It was the first African nation to condemn the 9/11 attacks on the United States. And after a string of suicide bombings in Casablanca in 2003, the government had a crackdown on Islamic extremism and arrested several thousand and prosecuted one thousand. It has as a result gained trade treaties with the European Union and the United States.
On a side note, the government has done much to improve the rights of the Berbers. Berber-language instruction is now available in all schools across the nation and has been elevated significantly. This is also being seen in the neighboring Algeria, where Berber has been defined as one of the national language, and the country itself is a "Arab, Berber, Muslim nation" constitutionally. In 2008, the Oxford University Linguistics Department began an inquiry into the restarting of the Joint Committee for the Deciphering of the Tindouf Inscriptions (JCDTF). Unfortunately, the government is reluctant to allow the project to go forward.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by IEPH » Tue 04 Apr 2017, 18:47

I think I'm led to believe that we wouldn't see any more discoveries until the Arab Spring comes.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by IEPH » Wed 02 Aug 2017, 02:08

So when can we see more?
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by shimobaatar » Wed 02 Aug 2017, 02:15

IEPH wrote:So when can we see more?
When qwed117 has more to show, I'd assume.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by IEPH » Thu 16 Nov 2017, 01:13

@qwed117 - Are you still here, because I'd still like to hear an update of this.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by shimobaatar » Mon 20 Nov 2017, 18:32

IEPH wrote:
Thu 16 Nov 2017, 01:13
@qwed117 - Are you still here, because I'd still like to hear an update of this.
shimobaatar wrote:
Wed 02 Aug 2017, 02:15
IEPH wrote:So when can we see more?
When qwed117 has more to show, I'd assume.
I'm sure lots of us would like to see more, but what good is that if qwed117 doesn't have any more to show us, at least not at the moment?
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by clawgrip » Wed 22 Nov 2017, 07:30

Sometimes, a friendly reminder can be fruitful. If, for example, someone suddenly posted on one of my old threads asking for more information or elaboration, I might move that up my list of priorities, knowing that there was someone specifically wanting updates.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by DesEsseintes » Wed 22 Nov 2017, 07:50

clawgrip wrote:
Wed 22 Nov 2017, 07:30
Sometimes, a friendly reminder can be fruitful. If, for example, someone suddenly posted on one of my old threads asking for more information or elaboration, I might move that up my list of priorities, knowing that there was someone specifically wanting updates.
I agree with this. I find it very motivating when people show interest.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by gestaltist » Wed 22 Nov 2017, 10:07

I know that qwed117 has more to show because he used to share parts of this project on IRC and what's posted here is far from the full picture. Whether he feels the full picture is presentable, though, is for him to answer.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by IEPH » Mon 27 Nov 2017, 19:41

gestaltist wrote:
Wed 22 Nov 2017, 10:07
I know that qwed117 has more to show because he used to share parts of this project on IRC and what's posted here is far from the full picture. Whether he feels the full picture is presentable, though, is for him to answer.
Well, what did he say on the IRC about it.

And anyways, I sent qwed a PM about it, but he hasn't responded
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by IEPH » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 22:52

gestaltist wrote:
Wed 22 Nov 2017, 10:07
I know that qwed117 has more to show because he used to share parts of this project on IRC and what's posted here is far from the full picture. Whether he feels the full picture is presentable, though, is for him to answer.
So you actually told me qwed had some ideas about the TL on the IRC that he shared with you. Would you mind telling me what it is?
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by sangi39 » Tue 12 Dec 2017, 01:07

IEPH wrote:
Mon 11 Dec 2017, 22:52
gestaltist wrote:
Wed 22 Nov 2017, 10:07
I know that qwed117 has more to show because he used to share parts of this project on IRC and what's posted here is far from the full picture. Whether he feels the full picture is presentable, though, is for him to answer.
So you actually told me qwed had some ideas about the TL on the IRC that he shared with you. Would you mind telling me what it is?
As Gestaltist pointed out, it's up to Qwed to present what he feels is worth presenting. I wouldn't try going through someone else to get at it.
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Re: The Mystery of the Desert

Post by gestaltist » Tue 12 Dec 2017, 09:41

sangi39 wrote:
Tue 12 Dec 2017, 01:07
IEPH wrote:
Mon 11 Dec 2017, 22:52
gestaltist wrote:
Wed 22 Nov 2017, 10:07
I know that qwed117 has more to show because he used to share parts of this project on IRC and what's posted here is far from the full picture. Whether he feels the full picture is presentable, though, is for him to answer.
So you actually told me qwed had some ideas about the TL on the IRC that he shared with you. Would you mind telling me what it is?
As Gestaltist pointed out, it's up to Qwed to present what he feels is worth presenting. I wouldn't try going through someone else to get at it.
Exactly the reason why I haven't responded.
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