Quick Diachronics Challenge

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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by sangi39 » Tue 22 May 2018, 15:50

I've not been able to make much progress with this beyond the following:
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1) Perhaps a palatal initial was original to the proto-word, not an innovation
2) The second vowel was probably non-high and unrounded, possibly */a/
3) Maybe the proto-word was *cajk:akʷ
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » Tue 22 May 2018, 16:40

Here, this may help:
The initial was not palatal
There were originally 4 syllables
Labialized and/or long consonants are innovations
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by shimobaatar » Tue 22 May 2018, 23:00

Just a quick revised guess:
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*[ˈtsa.i.koːk]
I might try to reconstruct it again later.
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by shimobaatar » Wed 23 May 2018, 02:55

shimobaatar wrote:
Tue 22 May 2018, 23:00
Just a quick revised guess:
Spoiler:
*[ˈtsa.i.koːk]
I might try to reconstruct it again later.
Oh, whoops, I misread one of your hints.

Anyway, if you're not going to have access to a computer very often soon, could you declare a "winner" before then?
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » Wed 23 May 2018, 12:27

shimobaatar wrote:
Tue 22 May 2018, 23:00
Just a quick revised guess:
Spoiler:
*[ˈtsa.i.koːk]
I might try to reconstruct it again later.
I will declare one by noon today.
EDIT:
I didn't reply to your guess, so here goes:
There is only one word initial consonant(not an affricate), and it wasn't palatal.
There are four vowels, including a word final vowel.
There are no long vowels originally.
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by shimobaatar » Wed 23 May 2018, 15:50

Another revised guess:
Spoiler:
*[ˈta.i.ko.ku]
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by GrandPiano » Thu 24 May 2018, 02:25

My guess:
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*[ˈa.t͡sa.i.kawk]
:eng: - Native
:chn: - B2
:esp: - A2
:jpn: - A2
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by GamerGeek » Thu 24 May 2018, 04:31

Spoiler:
The existence of Northern (Red), Western (Blue), Eastern (Green), and Southern dialects is apparent, even if this defies the geography
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Northern: *tʃæːko
Western: *çiː.kek
Eastern: *saj'gɯk
Southern: *tsaːjawk
I would guess the original root is *tsaj.gæwk
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by GamerGeek » Thu 24 May 2018, 04:37

Spoiler:
CarsonDaConlanger wrote:
Wed 23 May 2018, 12:27
shimobaatar wrote:
Tue 22 May 2018, 23:00
Just a quick revised guess:
Spoiler:
*[ˈtsa.i.koːk]
I might try to reconstruct it again later.
I will declare one by noon today.
EDIT:
I didn't reply to your guess, so here goes:
There is only one word initial consonant(not an affricate), and it wasn't palatal.
There are four vowels, including a word final vowel.
There are no long vowels originally.
CarsonDaConlanger wrote:
Tue 22 May 2018, 16:40
Here, this may help:
The initial was not palatal
There were originally 4 syllables
Labialized and/or long consonants are innovations
*ti.ja.ge.ku
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » Thu 24 May 2018, 14:34

I am going to have to give this to Gamergeek, because he got the i before a correct.
Spoiler:
The original was [si.a.ka.ku]
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 26 May 2018, 01:55

Is GamerGeek planning to do a new challenge?
:eng: - Native
:chn: - B2
:esp: - A2
:jpn: - A2
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Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge

Post by GamerGeek » Mon 28 May 2018, 22:24

GrandPiano wrote:
Sat 26 May 2018, 01:55
Is GamerGeek planning to do a new challenge?
I'll have it in soon
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