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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by cybrxkhan » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 06:50

Here are a bunch of random ones I made while I was bored in class today. They're kind of pretty simple and boring, but I'm fine with that. I might use them for some of the isolated conlangs in my conworld. The last one I think I'll use it for the Chan language, but anyways...

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Consonants
Stops: /t t' c~k c'~k' q q'/ <t th k kh q qh>
Fricatives: /ɸ s X~h/ <f s h>
Nasals: /m~n/ <n>
Approximants: /w l ɾ / <w l r>

Vowels
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>

Root Structure
(ejective)(C)(approximant)V(V)

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Consonants
Stops: /t/ <t>
Fricatives: /s h/ <s h>
Nasals: /n/ <n>
Approximants: /ɾ/ <r>

Vowels
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>

Root Structure
(C)(r)V(V)(V)(C)

(This one probably would have to be tonal... and there are probably a lot of allophones for the consonants or something like that.)

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Consonants
Stops: /p pʲ t tʲ c cʲ k kʲ q/ <p py t ty c cy k ky q>
Fricatives: /ɸ ɸʲ s sʲ ʂ ʂʲ X h/ <f fy s sy sh shy kh h>
Nasals: /m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n nh ng>
Approximants: /w ɹ ɽ l ɰ/ <w r rh l lh>
Affricates: /t͡s t͡ʃ/ <x ch>

Vowels
/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>

Tones
Rising Tone <á>
Falling Tone <à>

Syllable Structure
(C)V(p, t, c, s, ʂ, X, m, n)
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by cybrxkhan » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 07:35

roninbodhisattva wrote:I like that first one a lot!
Thanks. I'm thinking of modifying it a bit and maybe adding another approximant and maybe a fricative or nasal since I feel the phonetic inventory is a wee bit small, but yeah, I was thinking to myself in class that maybe I should make something that includes /c/ and ejectives. Class time's a great time to make up some random crap. I'm probably going to use it as a proto language for the Wedan language family, which in my conworld is basically an extremely small and insignificant language family, which will allow me to do some crazy stuff with them.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by roninbodhisattva » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 07:59

cybrxkhan wrote:Class time's a great time to make up some random crap.
I've got so many inventories/sketches from lectures and boring classes...you're so right.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Testyal » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 19:41

Quick consonant phonology. Not brilliant, considering I only know about half the IPA.

Stops: /p b̪ t t̪ k/ <- Changed to a dental/non-dental. It sounds nice and it's pretty easy to pronounce.
Frictaves: /f s ɬ ʂ/ <- I added /ɬ/ as a last resort. I've only just found out what it sounds like.
Nasals: /m n/
Appoximants: /l j ɹ w/ <- Added /w/ to make up for the loss of the /g/. I quite like it, actually. Not brilliant, but good.

Please, punish me harshly.

Edited with a couple of 'exotic' changes, as cybrxkhan put it.
Last edited by Testyal on Thu 10 Feb 2011, 20:18, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by cybrxkhan » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 19:59

testyal1 wrote:Quick consonant phonology. Not brilliant, considering I only know about half the IPA.

Stops: /p b t d k g/ <- Now, I am crying at that. Raise your hands if this needs to be changed.
Frictaves: /f s ɬ ʂ/ <- I added /ɬ/ as a last resort. I've only just found out what it sounds like.
Nasals: /m n/
Appoximants: /l j ɹ/

Please, punish me harshly.

For the stops, if you want to make it more exotic, for lack of better wording, you can just have the stops contrast some other way instead of having a voiceless-voiced contrast. Like contrast between aspirated and unaspirated, or pharangyalized and unpharangyalized, or something like that.

It seems like a pretty small phonology... not that that's bad or what not. Oh, and what about the vowels?
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Micamo » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 20:10

/p t ʈ k pʰ tʰ ʈʰ kʰ Ɂ b d ɖ g bʱ dʱ ɖʱ gʱ s ʂ h z ʐ ɦ m n ɳ ŋ m̰ n̰ ɳ̰ ŋ̰ ʙ ɾ ɽ l ɭ j w/
/i ɪ e ɛ a ᴐ o ʊ u ĩ ẽ ã õ ũ/

(C)V.

Sample words

ũwẽ
gegɪ
ŋãgũ
ʐapeɪɁã
dʱũɪ
ʐãũ
pʰẽn̰eɾa
kɪĩʊ
ɖĩʈosɛŋɛ
õpʰã
dʱoɛʐʊjũ
doɛmuzẽ
pʰĩŋʊ
ʂẽʂɪ
ɪɽĩɁĩ
ʙʊeɳewã
higʱʊ
ãe
nũmɪ
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Ceresz » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 20:48

testyal1 wrote: Stops: /p b̪ t t̪ k/ <- Changed to a dental/non-dental. It sounds nice and it's pretty easy to pronounce.
Is a dental voiced bilibial stop even possible? I mean, how does one pronounce that :-s?
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Testyal » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 20:53

Ceresz wrote:
testyal1 wrote: Stops: /p b̪ t t̪ k/ <- Changed to a dental/non-dental. It sounds nice and it's pretty easy to pronounce.
Is a dental voiced bilibial stop even possible? I mean, how does one pronounce that :-s?
It's labiodental. Actually, I made a mistake. It should be a voiceless labiodental stop.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Ceresz » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 20:55

Oh, I see. That explains things.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by clockworkbanana » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 21:14

Now the inventory I had before with the harmonies I'm thinking about being phonemic instead of allophonic:


/p pˠ t tˠ tʷ k kʷ/
/ɸ s sˠ sʷ x/
/m mˠ n nˠ nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/
/ʙ ʙˠ r rˠ rʷ ʀ ʀʷ/
/l lˠ lʷ ʟ ʟʷ/

/i æ ø e a ɔ y ɶ o/

Obviously ready for a lot of mergers and collapses.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Ceresz » Thu 10 Feb 2011, 21:36

I'm bored, so here's a quickly put together inventory:

/m̥ n̥ mʲ nʲ/ <m n ṃ ṇ>
/t̪ d̪ʲ k gʲ/ <t d c g>
/s zʲ ɕ ʑ h/ <s z ṣ ẓ h>
/l ɾ ʎ j/ <l r ly y>

/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ <i u e o ę ǫ a>

(C)(l ɾ ʎ j)V(N)

*A palatalized consonant can not cluster with a palatal consonant.
*When two consonants of the same type meet, gemination occurs. This is not reflected in the orthography.
*Mid-vowels are nasalized when following or preceding a nasal.

Sample words:
Oraṃ /oram̥/
Clyęẓ /kʎɛʑ/
Haroṣ /haroɕ/
Lyadi /ʎadʲi/
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by cybrxkhan » Fri 11 Feb 2011, 02:24

Here's three I made in class today. I was seeing if I could try some things with pharyngealized consonants. I'm not really sure how awesome or not awesome they are, but what not...

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Stops: /p p' pˤ t t' tˤ k k' kˤ q q' qˤ/ <p p' ph t t' th k k' kh q q' qh
Fricatives: /f f' s s' ʂ ʂ' h/ <f f' s s' sh sh' h>
Nasals: /m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
Approximants: /w r~ɾ l j ʎ/ <w r l y lh>

Vowels:
/i e ɛ a ɒ ɔ o u/ <i e é a á ó o u>

Syllable structure:
(ejective)(C)V(C)

Examples:
q'sáng
lhé
f'thó

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Stops: /p pˤ b bˤ t tˤ d dˤ k kˤ g gˤ q/ <p ph b bh t th d dh k kh g gh q>
Fricatives: /f v θ 	s ʃ h ɦ/ <f v thh s sh h x>
Nasals: /m n/ <m n>
Approximants: /ʍ w r ɽ l/ <wh w rh r l>

Vowels:
/ə a i u/ <e a i u>

Diphthongs:
/aə au ai əu əi/ <ae au ai eu ei>

Syllable structure:
(C)(approximant)V(C)

Examples:
Thhaeg
Xredh
Ghwhun

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Stops: /p pˤ t tˤ c cˤ k kˤ q/ <p ph t th c ch k kh q>
Fricatives: /f fˤ s sˤ ç X h/ <f fh s sh z x h>
Nasals: /m n ɲ/ <m n ñ>
Approximants: /ʍ w ɾ~ɽ l j/ <wh w r l y>

Vowels:
/ɐ i u/ <a i u>

Consonant clusters allowed (only at beginning of syllable):
(Non pharyngealized Consonant) + (Approximant)

Diphthongs:
/ɐu ɐi iu/ <au ai iu>

Syllable structure:
(C)V(nasal, f, s, z)

Examples:
Zwhiuñ
Khauf
Caiz
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Ceresz » Fri 11 Feb 2011, 02:28

Class must be interesting :lol:.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by cybrxkhan » Fri 11 Feb 2011, 02:30

Ceresz wrote:Class must be interesting :lol:.
I was in science class. Furthermore, I'm an Asian who has disgraced my people by hating science and loving the humanities and social sciences. Do the math.

(Actually it's a pretty easy science class... but... we'll just pretend it's really hard and boring.)


Also, on a side note, is having "(consonant) + h" okay for indicating a pharyngealized consonant? I wasn't so sure about that while in class, but I didn't have my computer with me, so I just put the <h>'s in tentatively.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Ceresz » Fri 11 Feb 2011, 02:34

In orthography? I can't see why not.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Testyal » Fri 11 Feb 2011, 08:50

An update from my previous post.

Stops: /p p̪ t t̪ k/<p pt t tt k/
Frictaves: /f s ɬ ʂ/<f s hl ss>
Nasals: /m n/<m n>
Appoximants: /l j ɹ w/<l y r ŭ>

Vowels
/i: u: ɪ ə œ: ʌ ɔ: ɒ/<î û i ə ə-circumflex u ô o>
Note- schwa with a circumflex doesn't exist on the internet. You could two letters in order to lengthen it, though.

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(UNDER CONSTRUCTION)
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Omzinesý » Fri 11 Feb 2011, 11:22

clockworkbanana wrote: /p pˠ t tˠ tʷ k kʷ/
/ɸ s sˠ sʷ x/
/m mˠ n nˠ nʷ ŋ ŋʷ/
/ʙ ʙˠ r rˠ rʷ ʀ ʀʷ/
/l lˠ lʷ ʟ ʟʷ/

/i æ ø e a ɔ y ɶ o/
I have never seen a phonology with so many l:s.
What's the diferesnce between ʟ and lˠ?
Bilabial trill is asways a nice sound. How does a velarised bilabial trill sound? Rather terrible?
There are 7 front vowels and 2(very close to each other) back vowels.) Harmonic?
But a nice try.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Golahet » Fri 11 Feb 2011, 14:41

For whomever may be interested in the phonology of one of my conlangs:

/m n (ŋ)/
/pʰ b tʰ d kʰ g ʔ/
/tɬʰ tʃʰ dʒ/
/f v s z ɬ ʃ x ɣ/
/l h/
/r/

/ŋ/ doesn't occur in native words except as a homorganic coda nasal, but it is available for borrowed words.

/r/ is pronounced either [r] or [ɾ] in free variation.

/ä o̞ e̞ ə u i/

/ə/ is half-rounded.

/äi äu o̞i e̞u/

The syllable structure is CV(S/n/l), where "n" is a homorganic nasal, and "S" the second part of a diphthong. The coda nasal is usually /m/ when it precedes /r/, except when a neighbouring consonant in the same morpheme is labial. A homorganic nasal as coda may not be directly followed by a nasal onset. /l/ as a coda is not allowed to be followed by anything else than either of /m pʰ b tʰ d kʰ g ʔ h/.

When /ŋ/ contrasts it occurs as onset.

Borrowed words also allow /x/ as a coda consonant, that assimilates in voice to the following onset, if the onset is a member of a pair with voice contrast but otherwise not, thus /ɣd/ but /xm/. The onset following the coda /x/ may not be any velar or /h/. Borrowed words also allow the coda /l/ to be followed by any consonant except /n ɬ l r/.

Diphthongs attract stress, but there's no fixed rule for stress in the language. Stress isn't phonemic, neither for words nor for phrases.

Unstressed vowels are never reduced like in English, they always have a pronunciation near their cardinal values.
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Post by Golahet » Fri 11 Feb 2011, 15:02

testyal1 wrote:<ə-circumflex>
Note- schwa with a circumflex doesn't exist on the internet.
You mean ə̂?
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