What did you accomplish today?

A forum for all topics related to constructed languages
User avatar
Thrice Xandvii
darkness
darkness
Posts: 3649
Joined: Sun 25 Nov 2012, 10:13
Location: Carnassus

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 08:44

LinguistCat wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 13:58
I have worked out a good portion of back story for a D&D character for a campaign starting... probably after the new year.
I am intensely jealous! I have wanted to play DnD for a long time and just don't know anyone near me who plays. I am saddened. I may just lurk at a local gaming store and see if I can't join up with a group that comes in there on the regular. I'm just... not all that social with folks I don't know.
Image
User avatar
LinguistCat
cuneiform
cuneiform
Posts: 76
Joined: Sat 06 May 2017, 06:48

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by LinguistCat » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 15:11

Thrice Xandvii wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 08:44
LinguistCat wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 13:58
I have worked out a good portion of back story for a D&D character for a campaign starting... probably after the new year.
I am intensely jealous! I have wanted to play DnD for a long time and just don't know anyone near me who plays. I am saddened. I may just lurk at a local gaming store and see if I can't join up with a group that comes in there on the regular. I'm just... not all that social with folks I don't know.
I was going to suggest looking into roll20, since it's online and doesn't require meatspace friends. But then you'd still need people online to do things. I think it offers a way to find parties, but that doesn't help if being social with strangers is hard.
User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 5680
Joined: Sat 14 Aug 2010, 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by eldin raigmore » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 20:19

eldin raigmore wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 01:11
I got out of bed, got dressed, thought really hard about leaving the apartment, got undressed, and went back to bed.
gestaltist wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 10:53
I envy you. I was 12 hours at work yesterday, and today doesn't look much better. Coming here for a few minutes is all the rest I'm going to get today.
DesEsseintes wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 15:03
The grass is just always so much greener...
(@gestaltist): Yeah, what DesEsseintes says. I think I'd rather be able to work.
I suffered a little from S.A.D. every winter while I lived in Texas; but it really took off when I started trying to make it through Michigan's winters!
I'm glad to see that, since my "got out of bed" post, more people are posting accomplishments much more brag-about-able than that one!
User avatar
gestaltist
roman
roman
Posts: 1459
Joined: Wed 11 Feb 2015, 11:23

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by gestaltist » Wed 06 Dec 2017, 21:42

eldin raigmore wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 20:19
eldin raigmore wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 01:11
I got out of bed, got dressed, thought really hard about leaving the apartment, got undressed, and went back to bed.
gestaltist wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 10:53
I envy you. I was 12 hours at work yesterday, and today doesn't look much better. Coming here for a few minutes is all the rest I'm going to get today.
DesEsseintes wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 15:03
The grass is just always so much greener...
(@gestaltist): Yeah, what DesEsseintes says. I think I'd rather be able to work.
I suffered a little from S.A.D. every winter while I lived in Texas; but it really took off when I started trying to make it through Michigan's winters!
I'm glad to see that, since my "got out of bed" post, more people are posting accomplishments much more brag-about-able than that one!
Sorry to hear that. As a Pole, I can relate to depressing winters all too well.

Obviously, I wouldn't want to not have my job. It pays well, the people are great, and I feel accomplished. But after yet another 12-hour workday, it can be hard to be thankful...
Iyionaku
roman
roman
Posts: 1467
Joined: Sun 25 May 2014, 13:17

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Iyionaku » Fri 08 Dec 2017, 14:51

I am about to change the system of plural marking in Ular. Before it was done by reduplication (facultative for inanimate nouns). Now I want to change it to plural classifiers, i.e. similar to Chinese measure words, you have particles dedicated to mark plural of a certain class. So far I've got the following:

táng - plural word for humans
păn - plural word for plants
lhā - plural word for big mammals
thăw - plural word for buildings

I don't want a system that is as exhaustive as Chinese's measure word system, but on the other hand I don't want a general classifier like 个 either. Students of Ular shall suffer. [}:D]
Heaven and Earth, but I feel the color of the cake when you keep the Victoria.
I had a mantra on the moss and I had to go to bed.


Oh, and there is a [ɕ] in my name!
User avatar
WeepingElf
cuneiform
cuneiform
Posts: 82
Joined: Tue 23 Feb 2016, 18:42
Location: Braunschweig, Germany
Contact:

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by WeepingElf » Fri 08 Dec 2017, 21:58

The phoneme inventory of a new conlang. The thing is meant to be distantly related to Kartvelian, like Hesperic is related to IE, though at a greater time depth.
... brought to you by the Weeping Elf
User avatar
Thrice Xandvii
darkness
darkness
Posts: 3649
Joined: Sun 25 Nov 2012, 10:13
Location: Carnassus

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » Sat 09 Dec 2017, 03:46

LinguistCat wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 15:11
Thrice Xandvii wrote:
Wed 06 Dec 2017, 08:44
LinguistCat wrote:
Tue 05 Dec 2017, 13:58
I have worked out a good portion of back story for a D&D character for a campaign starting... probably after the new year.
I am intensely jealous! I have wanted to play DnD for a long time and just don't know anyone near me who plays. I am saddened. I may just lurk at a local gaming store and see if I can't join up with a group that comes in there on the regular. I'm just... not all that social with folks I don't know.
I was going to suggest looking into roll20, since it's online and doesn't require meatspace friends. But then you'd still need people online to do things. I think it offers a way to find parties, but that doesn't help if being social with strangers is hard.
It's not so much that being social (with strangers) is hard, its just that I like to have at least one person as an "in" to the group. Just walking up to a group of strangers who all presumably know each other somewhat is the issue. Also, I have thought about on-line options, but I don't think i'd enjoy that option nearly as much. Oh well. I might just pop over to the group this next Wednesday and see, IIRC, that was when some of the D&D folks met.
Image
User avatar
DesEsseintes
cleardarkness
cleardarkness
Posts: 4470
Joined: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 12:16

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » Sat 09 Dec 2017, 17:12

I made a Núta sentence:

Arınyukwawaterúkserı kú·ru̇hsa.
You and I hunted and caught a warbane.
User avatar
DesEsseintes
cleardarkness
cleardarkness
Posts: 4470
Joined: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 12:16

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » Sun 10 Dec 2017, 11:07

Núta now has a rough verb template outline and seriously serial verb stems! Noun incorporation is not going to be a feature apart from some vestigial nominal class stuff which exists in my head but has to be worked out. So altogether I’m pretty pleased with the progress I’m making.

Except.

I suddenly want to ditch the minimal four-vowel /a e i u/ system I have and replace it with something Sōkoan/Korean. Nine consonant phonemes and nine vowel phonemes sounds really tempting all of a sudden. I haven’t put this in the yea or nay thread because I’m afraid.
Keenir
runic
runic
Posts: 2457
Joined: Tue 22 May 2012, 02:05

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Keenir » Sun 10 Dec 2017, 14:42

DesEsseintes wrote:
Sun 10 Dec 2017, 11:07
I suddenly want to ditch the minimal four-vowel /a e i u/ system I have and replace it with something Sōkoan/Korean. Nine consonant phonemes and nine vowel phonemes sounds really tempting all of a sudden.
Do it - the vowel thing. Worst case, its a dialect, right?
At work on Apaan: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4799
User avatar
DesEsseintes
cleardarkness
cleardarkness
Posts: 4470
Joined: Sun 31 Mar 2013, 12:16

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » Sun 10 Dec 2017, 16:13

Keenir wrote:
Sun 10 Dec 2017, 14:42
DesEsseintes wrote:
Sun 10 Dec 2017, 11:07
I suddenly want to ditch the minimal four-vowel /a e i u/ system I have and replace it with something Sōkoan/Korean. Nine consonant phonemes and nine vowel phonemes sounds really tempting all of a sudden.
Do it - the vowel thing. Worst case, its a dialect, right?
Indeed. And I always wanted a dialect with nasal and rhotic vowels. We'll see.

Meanwhile, I think there may be a very thin line between /w j/ and /u i/. This is apparent in some verb derivation.

nıw + enıwe
nıw + rısnwırıs

This is easily explained if we consider the Proto-Núta form to be *niu with u → w intervocalically. Diachronically then, this happens:

*niu + e → nıwe
*niu + ris → *njyris → nwırıs
User avatar
Creyeditor
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 3948
Joined: Tue 14 Aug 2012, 18:32

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Creyeditor » Sun 10 Dec 2017, 16:28

DesEsseintes wrote:
Sun 10 Dec 2017, 11:07
Núta now has a rough verb template outline and seriously serial verb stems! Noun incorporation is not going to be a feature apart from some vestigial nominal class stuff which exists in my head but has to be
I suddenly want to ditch the minimal four-vowel /a e i u/ system I have and replace it with something Sōkoan/Korean. Nine consonant phonemes and nine vowel phonemes sounds really tempting all of a sudden. I haven’t put this in the yea or nay thread because I’m afraid.
I like compromises, so why not both phonemic /a e i u/, but allophonically all the fun of Korean vowels?
Creyeditor
"Thoughts are free."
Produce, Analyze, Manipulate
1 :deu: 2 :eng: 3 :fra: 4 :esp: 4 :ind:
:con: Ook & Omlűt & Nautli languages & Sperenjas
[<3] Papuan languages, Morphophonology, Lexical Semantics [<3]
User avatar
Frislander
mayan
mayan
Posts: 2185
Joined: Sat 14 May 2016, 17:47
Location: The North

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Frislander » Sun 10 Dec 2017, 19:40

So this new (still nameless) polysynthetic language I'm working on has increased in size, and has seen a couple of alterations from the initial vision (for example, ablaut is no longer found in nominal case marking, while verbs are now polypersonal and mark for aspect with regular reduplication and vowel ablaut). And now I have enough vocabulary to give you example sentences!

lhietlhitalaṭunlhuos.
[ɬ̪ɪ̯ət̪ɬ̪etʲalaʈoŋɬ̪ʊ̯ɵsʲ]
CLC-lhit-al-a-ṭun-lhuos
PROG-join-REP-ANI-RECP-2/3pauc
I hear they're getting married

nenepsinenthekṣata.
[ŋɤŋɤpsʲeŋɤŋt̪ɤkʂatʲa]
CS-nep-sin-enth-ek-ṣa-ta
INC-carry-FUT-NEG-2-BENF-1s.SUBJ
I'm not going to give (it) to you.

lokasluoklukaluoṣaxol.
[lɒkasʲlʊ̯ɵklokalʊ̯ɵʂaxɒl]
lokas-CLC-luk-al-uo-ṣa-xol
salmon-PROG-cook-REP-1-BENF-DESID
(S)he wants to cook us some salmon for dinner.

Note that the lhit-ṭun, nep-ṣa and luk-ṣa combinations are lexicalised.
Davush
sinic
sinic
Posts: 411
Joined: Sat 10 Jan 2015, 14:10

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Davush » Sun 10 Dec 2017, 19:50

Frislander wrote:
Sun 10 Dec 2017, 19:40
So this new (still nameless) polysynthetic language I'm working on has increased in size, and has seen a couple of alterations from the initial vision (for example, ablaut is no longer found in nominal case marking, while verbs are now polypersonal and mark for aspect with regular reduplication and vowel ablaut). And now I have enough vocabulary to give you example sentences!
Trying to read those examples along with the IPA was dizzying... [:D] (probably in a good way!).

I managed to tidy up how verbs are inflected for tense in Qutrussan. Hopefully not too many changes should be needed now. I actually want to write a reference grammar-style document some point soon.
User avatar
Pabappa
hieroglyphic
hieroglyphic
Posts: 41
Joined: Sat 18 Nov 2017, 02:41
Contact:

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Pabappa » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 00:05

Reduced the dictionary of Khulls from ~3000 to ~360 words. I want only words with solid etymologies from now on ,even though it means scrapping a lot of earlier work.
Image
User avatar
Ælfwine
greek
greek
Posts: 597
Joined: Mon 21 Sep 2015, 00:28
Location: New Jersey

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ælfwine » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 00:52

I've been playing around with the idea that I thought up after watching a David Peterson Ytube video: what if pretonic vowels were deleted wholesale in a romance conlang? I've asked around before and was shown an example in Portuguese where pretonic unstressed vowels often become silent or even elided in fast speech. So I decided to try to simulate these changes and see what would happen if they indeed became phonemically lost.

The first thing I've noticed is how nonconcatenative the morphology becomes. Take the VL word "sapere," where in one conjugation has pretonic stress and the other has initial stress (I know it doesn't — roll with me.)

Example:

ˈsaperɛ -> ˈsaper --> ˈsaber
saˈperɛ -> sɐˈperɛ -> ˈspeɾɛ

Another thing I noticed is by deleting pretonic vowels, the stress shifts to first syllable in most words (which can be easily become all words thru analogy). This is radically different from most romance languages where stress tends to fall on the last or second to last syllable.

Additionally I suspect this type of sound change to radically alter the verbal conjugation of Proto-Romance. Perhaps it could be a way to gain triconsonantal roots, like in Arabic. I have to toy with it more. I don't know if I'd apply this to a real romlang though, especially since I am already working on my agglutinative Pelsodian, but it is a fun idea nonetheless.
The worst thing you can do to an idea is forget about it.
GaloCuevas
rupestrian
rupestrian
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon 11 Dec 2017, 00:46

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by GaloCuevas » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 01:19

I have joined this amazing forum.
Before that, I have created the grammatic articles for my language, after consulting my root languages (Norwegian, German, Dutch, English, Irish, French, Italian, Catalan, Spanish (my mother tongue [:D] ) and Portuguese), developing roots, and writing them on my spreadsheets.

Definite:

s.f. la /la/
s.m. lo /lo/
p.f. le /le/
p.m. li /li/

Indefinite:

s.f. ena /eNa/
s.m. en /eN/
p.f. enas /eNaz/
p.m. ens /eNz/

Negative article (like Dutch geen or Norwegian ikke)

ican /ikaN/
User avatar
Pabappa
hieroglyphic
hieroglyphic
Posts: 41
Joined: Sat 18 Nov 2017, 02:41
Contact:

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Pabappa » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 01:51

Ælfwine wrote:
Mon 11 Dec 2017, 00:52


The first thing I've noticed is how nonconcatenative the morphology becomes. Take the VL word "sapere," where in one conjugation has pretonic stress and the other has initial stress (I know it doesn't — roll with me.)

Example:

ˈsaperɛ -> ˈsaper --> ˈsaber
saˈperɛ -> sɐˈperɛ -> ˈspeɾɛ

Another thing I noticed is by deleting pretonic vowels, the stress shifts to first syllable in most words (which can be easily become all words thru analogy). This is radically different from most romance languages where stress tends to fall on the last or second to last syllable.

You might like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romagnol_dialect , where massive syncope caused consonant clusters and ablaut. Not much info online in English, though.
Image
User avatar
Thrice Xandvii
darkness
darkness
Posts: 3649
Joined: Sun 25 Nov 2012, 10:13
Location: Carnassus

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 02:13

I just spent an absurdly long time organizing, uploading, re-organizing, sorting, re-naming, and re-uploading a vast array of characters for the overhaul of Shitullian. The new version has about twice as many vowels, which complicates the system that was in use. Now, I had to innovate some new vowel signs to use to alter the inherent vowels of the base glyphs. I also had to figure out how to create a template that could be used to overlay an image over another. Once I did that, I had to then create a template to use said feature. Then, of course, I had to experiment a fair bit. The result? Three easy to use templates that allow me to construct any word or phrase I want in the language complete with movable vowel signs! Plus, it looks kinda cool too!

My favorite glyph so far is for "pfrg" /p͜ɸɹ̩g/.

Image
Last edited by Thrice Xandvii on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 09:23, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Ælfwine
greek
greek
Posts: 597
Joined: Mon 21 Sep 2015, 00:28
Location: New Jersey

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ælfwine » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 04:35

Pabappa wrote:
Mon 11 Dec 2017, 01:51
Ælfwine wrote:
Mon 11 Dec 2017, 00:52


The first thing I've noticed is how nonconcatenative the morphology becomes. Take the VL word "sapere," where in one conjugation has pretonic stress and the other has initial stress (I know it doesn't — roll with me.)

Example:

ˈsaperɛ -> ˈsaper --> ˈsaber
saˈperɛ -> sɐˈperɛ -> ˈspeɾɛ

Another thing I noticed is by deleting pretonic vowels, the stress shifts to first syllable in most words (which can be easily become all words thru analogy). This is radically different from most romance languages where stress tends to fall on the last or second to last syllable.

You might like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romagnol_dialect , where massive syncope caused consonant clusters and ablaut. Not much info online in English, though.
I keep thinking to myself, "this is a Romance language?" It looks ugly as sin and has so many vowels it makes Danish blush. However, it does give me a good idea on the extent that a Romance language can go.
The worst thing you can do to an idea is forget about it.
Post Reply