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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Scytheria » Sun 25 Mar 2018, 10:17

Solved about 90% of the problems emerging in my artlang by restricting root words to a single syllable. Now to revise about 20,000 words of grammatical definition...
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Omzinesý » Mon 26 Mar 2018, 09:51

Decided to add humble consonant gradation to my Uralic lang. It only appears when the root vowels is a single sonoric consont. In Strong grade the consont is prestopped. The preceding syllable is still open and can have a diphtong.

Éna 'woman'

NOM éne [eine]
ACC édne [ei.dne]

Kóle 'school'

NOM kóle [ku:le]
ACC kódle [ku:.dle]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » Mon 26 Mar 2018, 10:20

I originally indicated the construct state for biconsonantal roots through the pattern ʾeCC, but this created too many illegal consonant clusters so now Vrkhazhian indicates it with the removal of the gender endings and inverse voicing of the final consonant:

šada "mouth" > šat "mouth-of"
šuḳi "king" > šug "king-of"
bala "path" > baś "path-of"
hazi "man" > has "man-of"

The construct state can also be used predicatively, like the Akkadian status absolutus:
ḳa tuhas.
2ms-NOM ACC-man\CONS-SG
ḳa tuhazi yu.
2ms-NOM man ACC-man-MASC.SG be\ACT.PRES.SG
He is a man.

Vrkhazhian now has an instrumental case, mostly to indicate the theme of a ditransitive verb. Vrkhazhian also no longer has progressive tenses but still makes a distinction between realis (factual) and irrealis (counterfactual) tenses.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Omzinesý » Mon 26 Mar 2018, 10:38

Omzinesý wrote:
Mon 26 Mar 2018, 09:51
Decided to add humble consonant gradation to my Uralic lang. It only appears when the root vowels is a single sonoric consont. In Strong grade the consont is prestopped. The preceding syllable is still open and can have a diphtong.

Éna 'woman'

NOM éne [eine]
ACC édne [ei.dne]

Kóle 'school'

NOM kóle [ku:le]
ACC kódle [ku:.dle]
Loan words also have prestopped sonorants word-initially.
Tran, trande 'beach, coast' <- Swe. strand
Kňyt, kňytte 'guy'

All plosives cannot precede a sonorant word-initially and reduce to prestopped sonorants.
Trize 'crisis'
Trop, troppe 'body' <- Swe. kroppa
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Dezinaa » Tue 27 Mar 2018, 06:26

I figured out how to do causatives in Otvei. They use the word un, meaning simply "cause, make," followed by the subordinating particle ek, followed by the action that was caused to happen.

Ex:
Ro unai ek sep amzeai.
fire.NOM cause-3SG SUBORD ice.NOM melt-3SG
The fire melts the ice. (Literally: The fire causes that the ice melts. Amze is always intransitive, which is why a causative construction is needed.)
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » Thu 29 Mar 2018, 09:51

A Kankonian rule I've had for a while:

A noun one of which belongs to each of many is kept in the singular if each has only one of them. For instance, you would say:

Geteres Dantonik alushen hothos na mem hair heshra.
soldier-PL Danton-ian sacrifice-PST life of 3p for heshra
The Dantonese soldiers gave their life for the heshra.

Instead of:

Geteres Dantonik alushen hothas na mem hair heshra.
soldier-PL Danton-ian sacrifice-PST life-PL of 3p for heshra
The Dantonese soldiers gave their lives for the heshra.

Today, a new twist on it:

The exception is with a noun like "shakti" (house) for which more than one possessor could be ambiguous. In such cases, the singular is used if the multiple possessors share a single unit, and the plural used if the multiple possessors each have their own unit:

Is shahemden shakti na Zhoya mui Vrandi.
1s go_down_to-PST house of Zhoya and Vrandi
I went down to Zhoya and Vrandi's house.

Kam sayup spas is adiros shaktas na Mark mui Asha.
on next week 1s visit-FUT house-PL of Mark and Asha
Next week, I will visit Mark's and Asha's houses.

Wiri mui mopiga retelen shakti na mem.
man and woman paint-PST house of 3p
The man and woman painted their house. [They live in the same house.]

Wiri mui mopiga retelen shaktas na mem.
man and woman paint-PST house-PL of 3p
The man and woman painted their houses. [They live in the different houses.]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lambuzhao » Thu 29 Mar 2018, 11:45

Why not just use /hal/ to emphasize that each person has a house?

E.G.

Is shahemden shakti na Zhoya mui Vrandi
1s go_down_to-PST house of Zhoya and Vrandi
I went down to Zhoya and Vrandi's house.
(They both own the same house which I visited)

BUT

Is shahemden shakti nahal Zhoya mui Vrandi.
1s go_down_to-PST house of=each Zhoya and Vrandi
I went down to Zhoya and Vrandi's houses.
(I visited the houses of each of them)
:?: :wat: :?:

Or mebbe the other way around, since /hal/ is a root that seems to mean 'every' or 'all' (collective) , yet you have that little idiomatic usage where is can mean "each"

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Omzinesý » Fri 06 Apr 2018, 19:36

Ahzoh wrote:
Mon 26 Mar 2018, 10:20
I originally indicated the construct state for biconsonantal roots through the pattern ʾeCC, but this created too many illegal consonant clusters so now Vrkhazhian indicates it with the removal of the gender endings and inverse voicing of the final consonant:

šada "mouth" > šat "mouth-of"
šuḳi "king" > šug "king-of"
bala "path" > baś "path-of"
hazi "man" > has "man-of"

The construct state can also be used predicatively, like the Akkadian status absolutus:
ḳa tuhas.
2ms-NOM ACC-man\CONS-SG
ḳa tuhazi yu.
2ms-NOM man ACC-man-MASC.SG be\ACT.PRES.SG
He is a man.

Vrkhazhian now has an instrumental case, mostly to indicate the theme of a ditransitive verb. Vrkhazhian also no longer has progressive tenses but still makes a distinction between realis (factual) and irrealis (counterfactual) tenses.
What would the historical cause for inverse voicing be?
I see final devoicing is very common, but what causes the final voicing?
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » Fri 06 Apr 2018, 21:50

Omzinesý wrote:
Fri 06 Apr 2018, 19:36
What would the historical cause for inverse voicing be?
I see final devoicing is very common, but what causes the final voicing?
Probably the same ones as Dholuo.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Omzinesý » Sat 07 Apr 2018, 09:07

Ahzoh wrote:
Fri 06 Apr 2018, 21:50
Omzinesý wrote:
Fri 06 Apr 2018, 19:36
What would the historical cause for inverse voicing be?
I see final devoicing is very common, but what causes the final voicing?
Probably the same ones as Dholuo.
WTF moments! It really happens somewhere! Wow!
That was interesting to know. Does anybody know a historical explanation for such a phenomenon?
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Creyeditor » Sat 07 Apr 2018, 12:04

Not for this language, but there was some other language where intervocalic voicing for some reason almost only affected the consonant between the penultimate and the ultimate syllable, if the last syllable was open. This was followed by deletion of the final vowel and there you go. It looks like final voicing. This was probably somewhere on (northern) Eurasia, but I forgot which language it was.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Pabappa » Wed 11 Apr 2018, 02:48

I saw a thread asking about a conscript that was designed for digital media such as stock tickers etc .... I cant find the thread now but this is my entry:

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/me2y60d53m84by ... ript10.png

Each row is a diff version of the same alphabet, which has only 30 syllables.
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Post by eldin raigmore » Wed 11 Apr 2018, 18:04

Pabappa wrote:
Wed 11 Apr 2018, 02:48
I saw a thread asking about a conscript that was designed for digital media such as stock tickers etc .... I cant find the thread now but this is my entry:
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/me2y60d53m84by ... ript10.png
Each row is a diff version of the same alphabet, which has only 30 syllables.
I like it.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by bbbourq » Fri 13 Apr 2018, 21:13

Today I was able to embed Instagram videos on my new LCS-sponsored website. It's still a work in progress, but it's coming along.
http://lortho.conlang.org

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Post by Pabappa » Sat 14 Apr 2018, 04:57

I like it
thanks. https://dl.dropbox.com/s/auawgeyar51tlv ... L-bw-3.png <----- another one.... a HYPER-minimalist script of 100 letters thats about as small as it can be. There are actually 400 letters, depending on whether the bottoms are drawn in or not. These are for tones.thus can be considered as diacritics.

I know the img is ridiculously small... I will post something better when I have the labels on. For now, in Photoshop, it's easier to just work pixel by pixel.

This is the same language as the other scripts... I think that this script would be difficult to rread, since almmost every detail matters and it's a syllabary so context won't help either... But this is just the minimalist "bare bones" form of the script, whereas in proper use some lines would be curved, lengthened, etc. Also, the number of syllables quickly dropped below 100.
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Post by eldin raigmore » Sun 15 Apr 2018, 23:56

I had resolved to arise by noon today, and I did! Success!
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by bbbourq » Fri 20 Apr 2018, 00:09

I re-wrote my folklore story which showcases the new modified version of the Lorthoan script.
The Unlucky Fox

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ˈʃadaɾ lhaˈɾanɛ ˈdasat dʰaˈɾakʰinat ˈhaɾlikʰi ˈnupʰi.
kʰaˈbalikʰi ˈnupʰi dalˈhotamɛkʰon dʰaˈhaɾlikʰa ˈhalhadaɾ a.
kiˈlikʰikʰi ˈikʰi ˈmolha kanˈsapumɛ.
ˈhaɾlikʰa diɾdʰaˈlama lidalˈhota mokanˈsapɔɪna.
kʰaɾ ˈkʰɛsikʰi ˈnupʰi kanˈsapumɛ dɛˈnalikʰu kanˈsapu luˈkʰotʰumɛ ˈhana tuˈʃadikʰu ˈkʰaʃumɛ ˈnupʰinalo.
ˈtʰaɾikʰu ˈbonhan ˈmonu sauˈɾamːu ˈtʰasamɛ ˈnupʰinalo.
Romanized Text
Spoiler:
shadar lharane dasat dharakhinat harlikhi nuphi.
khabalikhi nuphi dalhotamekhon dhaharlikha halhadar a.
kilikhikhi ikhi molha kansapume.
harlikha dirdhalama lidalhota mokansapoina.
khar khesikhi nuphi kansapume denalikhu kansapu lukhothume hana tushadikhu khashume nuphinalo.
tharikhu bonhan monu saurammu thasame nuphinalo.
Leipzig Gloss
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shadar  lhara-ne dasat      dharakhi  -nat harl-ikh-i    nuphi
ago.ADV year -PL beyond.ADV mountain.M-ABL be  -PST-3MSG fox.M
Once upon a time, there was the fox

khabal-ikh-i    nuphi dalhota-me -khon dha-harl-ikh-a    halhadar a
search-PST-3MSG fox.M food.N -ACC-but  NEG-be  -PST-3NSG much.ADJ PN.3NSG
The fox searched for food, but there was not much of it

kilikh-ikh-i    ikhi molha  kansapu-me
see   -PST-3MSG one  huge-N tree.N -ACC
It saw a huge tree

harl-ikh-a    dir     -dhalam-a li          -dalhota mo   -kansapo-ina
be  -PST-3NSG SUPERL  -good  -N PN.POSS.3MSG-food.N  that -tree.F -SUBL
Its favorite food was in that tree

khar khes   -ikh-i    nuphi kansapu-me  denal-ikh-u    kansapu lu          -khothu-me  hana tushad-ikh-u    khashu-me  nuphi-nalo
when scratch-PST-3MSG fox.M tree.F -ACC close-PST-3FSG tree.F  PN.POSS.3FSG-wall.F-ACC and  bury  -PST-3FSG head.F-ACC fox.M-GEN
When the fox scratched the tree, the tree closed its wall (here it means bark) and buried (trapped) the fox's head

thar-ikh-u    bonhan mon  -u saurammu thasa -me  nuphi-nalo
eat -PST-3FSG twenty other-F animal.F head.N-ACC fox.M-GEN
Twenty other animals ate the fox's body
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » Fri 20 Apr 2018, 01:48

I divided the continent of Ashrna into its language families. My new language family, Bolu-Swto is a member of the Ashrnic language family.
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Post by k1234567890y » Fri 20 Apr 2018, 06:23

nice Ahzoh, and also other people (:
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Creyeditor » Fri 20 Apr 2018, 21:29

bbbourq wrote:
Fri 20 Apr 2018, 00:09
Spoiler:
I re-wrote my folklore story which showcases the new modified version of the Lorthoan script.
The Unlucky Fox

Image

IPA
Spoiler:
ˈʃadaɾ lhaˈɾanɛ ˈdasat dʰaˈɾakʰinat ˈhaɾlikʰi ˈnupʰi.
kʰaˈbalikʰi ˈnupʰi dalˈhotamɛkʰon dʰaˈhaɾlikʰa ˈhalhadaɾ a.
kiˈlikʰikʰi ˈikʰi ˈmolha kanˈsapumɛ.
ˈhaɾlikʰa diɾdʰaˈlama lidalˈhota mokanˈsapɔɪna.
kʰaɾ ˈkʰɛsikʰi ˈnupʰi kanˈsapumɛ dɛˈnalikʰu kanˈsapu luˈkʰotʰumɛ ˈhana tuˈʃadikʰu ˈkʰaʃumɛ ˈnupʰinalo.
ˈtʰaɾikʰu ˈbonhan ˈmonu sauˈɾamːu ˈtʰasamɛ ˈnupʰinalo.
Romanized Text
Spoiler:
shadar lharane dasat dharakhinat harlikhi nuphi.
khabalikhi nuphi dalhotamekhon dhaharlikha halhadar a.
kilikhikhi ikhi molha kansapume.
harlikha dirdhalama lidalhota mokansapoina.
khar khesikhi nuphi kansapume denalikhu kansapu lukhothume hana tushadikhu khashume nuphinalo.
tharikhu bonhan monu saurammu thasame nuphinalo.
Leipzig Gloss
Spoiler:

Code: Select all

shadar  lhara-ne dasat      dharakhi  -nat harl-ikh-i    nuphi
ago.ADV year -PL beyond.ADV mountain.M-ABL be  -PST-3MSG fox.M
Once upon a time, there was the fox

khabal-ikh-i    nuphi dalhota-me -khon dha-harl-ikh-a    halhadar a
search-PST-3MSG fox.M food.N -ACC-but  NEG-be  -PST-3NSG much.ADJ PN.3NSG
The fox searched for food, but there was not much of it

kilikh-ikh-i    ikhi molha  kansapu-me
see   -PST-3MSG one  huge-N tree.N -ACC
It saw a huge tree

harl-ikh-a    dir     -dhalam-a li          -dalhota mo   -kansapo-ina
be  -PST-3NSG SUPERL  -good  -N PN.POSS.3MSG-food.N  that -tree.F -SUBL
Its favorite food was in that tree

khar khes   -ikh-i    nuphi kansapu-me  denal-ikh-u    kansapu lu          -khothu-me  hana tushad-ikh-u    khashu-me  nuphi-nalo
when scratch-PST-3MSG fox.M tree.F -ACC close-PST-3FSG tree.F  PN.POSS.3FSG-wall.F-ACC and  bury  -PST-3FSG head.F-ACC fox.M-GEN
When the fox scratched the tree, the tree closed its wall (here it means bark) and buried (trapped) the fox's head

thar-ikh-u    bonhan mon  -u saurammu thasa -me  nuphi-nalo
eat -PST-3FSG twenty other-F animal.F head.N-ACC fox.M-GEN
Twenty other animals ate the fox's body
I love your script. Already saw some examples on your site.
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