False cognates

[clawgrip]

Ha, just found another one.

取る toru - to take
(Emilian local language) tōr - to take

Note that the <u> in <toru> is nearly silent.

The /u/ in 取る toru is always voiced and clearly pronounced.

可愛いkawaii- cute
可愛ka ai- passable love or 可愛kě'ài- lovable

可愛い kawaii is etymologically Chinese, so this is a true cognate, not a false one.


Looks like I was too slow on the 攝 thing. It is indeed a simplified in Japanese as 摂. Three identical elements sometimes get simplified as that X thing plus one copy (cf. 澁 → 渋, 壘 → 塁).

[Lao Kou]

Looks like I was too slow on the 攝 thing. It is indeed a simplified in Japanese as 摂.

And apparently, can also be read as toru (as in: 食事を摂る). Mind, I'd be keeping my big bazoo shut if "photography" were written 摂影 -- wouldn't be loving it, natch, but wouldn't be wringing the life out of a tea towel, either.

[clawgrip]

I really only know 摂 from 摂津 Settsu, an old Japanese province.

[Lao Kou]

I really only know 摂 from 摂津 Settsu, an old Japanese province.

From what you and GrandPiano have described, this is where 摂 gets the bulk of its airplay.

[MrKrov]

可愛い kawaii is etymologically Chinese, so this is a true cognate, not a false one.

Shift in pronunciation from kawayui below.[1]

The kanji spelling 可愛い is an example of ateji (当て字), and uses an irregular reading of 愛. The phonological resemblance to Chinese 可愛 (kě'ài, “lovable”) is coincidental. Note that the medial -w- here is not an excrescence added between ka (可) and ai (愛), since the word is not formed from these morphemes.
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A contraction of classical 顔映し /kahahayushi/ → /kahayushi/.[1] Medial /ha/ becomes [wa] via synchronic phonological processes. It is unclear if the word before contraction was initially realized as *[kahahayushi] or as *[kawawayushi].

[All4Ɇn]

Whoops just saw MrKrov's post above

[clawgrip]

Well there you go, guess I should have looked that one up. That w was highly suspicious, after all.

[GrandPiano]

Zhuang dou "door" (Sawndip 都 or 偷*) - door

*There is one more Sawndip character according to Wiktionary, but I get an error message if I try to include it in this post; see here.

[DesEsseintes]

I don't think I've seen this mentioned:

Malay: muka n. face

Japanese: 向かう mukau v. to face

[k1234567890y]

English woman and Old Japanese 女 /womi1na/ "woman"

[GrandPiano]

cão "dog" - 狗 gǒu "dog"

[All4Ɇn]

cổ "neck"
cou "neck"

[clawgrip]

Not sure if it was mentioned or not, but:

so "in this/that/the stated manner"
sō "in that/the stated manner"

This one always stood out to me.

e.g.

そう思う。
Sō omou.
"I think so."

[GrandPiano]

I think I mentioned that one a while ago - or if I didn't, I meant to. Definitely an interesting coincidence.

Perhaps one could also add así "so" (same as そう or こう).

[clawgrip]

(Don't forget ああ).

But how is así similar to these words?

[DesEsseintes]

(Don't forget ああ).

But how is así similar to these words?

[GrandPiano]

(Don't forget ああ).

But how is así similar to these words?

If you take away the /a/ at the beginning, it follows the same phonological structure of /sV/. Considering the meanings are exactly the same, I don't think it's too much of a stretch.

[All4Ɇn]

Jurai hờnǐ "honey"
honey

[Creyeditor]

:sgp: Bahasa Indonesia, Bahasa Melayu, etc. jangan don't (prohibitive)
:cmr: Bulu ndʒáŋán missing (negative existence)

[qwed117]

volley ~ βᾰ́λλω "to throw" (/val.lo/ in 10th Century Byzantine)