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Re: False cognates

Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 05:01
by Thrice Xandvii
... but you just did make it like English whether it was on purpose or not.

Re: False cognates

Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 07:06
by Imralu
Yeah, unless you've used a word generator or derived it somehow, either diachronically or by some language-internal means and it's come from something very unlike the natlang word in question language you know (like if jeur came from giol < igola < ik+olna, for example), conlangs are not really a good source of "false cognates" because if you're just using pure inspiration, you can't say what precisely influenced your thoughts.

What I find really cool though is when some purely inspired stuff (or derived, for that matter) ends up weirdly close to natlang stuff that you definitely did not know about at the time you came up with it. For example, my pronoun system that I've carried through several langs for about the last ten years (I'm a serial monogamist with conlangs and I carry a lot forward to the next one) ... at some point I thought of putting it in Papua New Guinea as a language isolate ... I picked an uninhabited area and then saw that my pronoun system fits there pretty unremarkably.

Re: False cognates

Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 07:19
by Imralu
:tan: Swahili kama "as", "like"; "if" ... borrowed from Arabic kamaa
:esp: como "as", "like" (and of course cognates in its related languages)

Re: False cognates

Posted: Tue 13 Feb 2018, 19:20
by Shemtov
:us-pa: Lenepe /ni/ :jpn: ニ /に /ni/ "Two"

Re: False cognates

Posted: Thu 15 Feb 2018, 07:43
by Vlürch
:jpn: (ko) - child
:ind: Nyishi ko - child

:es-pv: hiru - three
:tur: :kur: Zazaki hiru - three

Re: False cognates

Posted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 05:37
by Shemtov
:eng: "Smack" :mex: Jacaltec <smak> /smaq'/ "To hit" :kor: 못 /mos/ [mot] "cannot" :mex: Jacaltec <Mat> "NEG." :irl: :sco: <Clann> :ita: Etruscan /klan/ "Child"

Re: False cognates

Posted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 18:23
by Pabappa
And I'm told that: :eng: spank is not cognate to Portuguese :pt:
espancar with a similar meaning. But the derivations are unknown.