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Re: What are you reading? or What have you been reading?

Post by lsd » Sun 20 Aug 2017, 22:59

lsd wrote:
eldin raigmore wrote:I just finished Max Barry's novel "Lexicon".
It's really fun for people like us....
Would it be "spammy" for me to say I very much recommend it?
I got it... gotta try it this summer...
finished... good thriller...
a secret "wizards" world hiden to Mr everyone...
the flash back story of the life of a "sorcerer", future evil mass murderer ...
and the parallele quest of one who survived from his killing to intent to stop his rise to power...
with flavor of violence, sex, and of spell language (since Babel)...
A kind of adult Harry Potter novel (even with "hogwarts" school...) in a spy mode...

I read also Snow crash this summer holydays with a similar back ground: where spells are informatics virus... a long-timer secret fight since Babel and Sumer for and against diversity of languages... baroque cyberpunk world with premonitions of increased parallele world of the web... craze and fun...
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by eldin raigmore » Mon 21 Aug 2017, 14:58

I liked Snow Crash too.
(Turns out I like most of that author's works!)
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by lsd » Fri 01 Sep 2017, 16:33

Did you read the baroque cycle ?
Can I have your advice...
I retreated before the size of the work (and its lack of translation in my L1 ...)
Is the effort well worth it...
Usually I avoid like the plague the saga that does not end... As I prefer the movies to the endless TV series...
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by eldin raigmore » Sun 08 Apr 2018, 21:30

(I looked for this thread in “Everything Else “ but it’s not there. )

I have lately been reading:
Binti by Nnedi Okorafor
Company Town by Madeline Ashby
Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor
The Namesake by Jhumpa Lahiri

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Not since reading Gene Wolfe’s Book of the New Sun tetralogy have I been motivated to look up so much stuff.

Lately it occurred to me to wonder whether there was any connection between that and the fact that these authors are all women?

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Whatever.

These books are great in my opinion. and I recommend them.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by eldin raigmore » Sun 08 Apr 2018, 21:34

lsd wrote:
Fri 01 Sep 2017, 16:33
Did you read the baroque cycle ?
Can I have your advice...
I retreated before the size of the work (and its lack of translation in my L1 ...)
Is the effort well worth it...
Usually I avoid like the plague the saga that does not end... As I prefer the movies to the endless TV series...
I started the baroque books but didn’t finish.

It’s on the borderline in my opinion. MAYBE it’s worth it. Depends what else you have going on, and how hard it is for you.

I read all ofvGibbon’s Decline n Fall of t Roman Empire. That took awhile. I’m glad I did it but I don’t know if it was the smart thing to do.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by lsd » Mon 09 Apr 2018, 18:19

Thank you...
My main interest is the period that saw the birth of the universal languages that gave birth to science itself ...
And their necessary controversy between the protagonists of the novel ...
Do they have any importance in the plot ...
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by eldin raigmore » Tue 10 Apr 2018, 04:58

lsd wrote:
Mon 09 Apr 2018, 18:19
Thank you...
My main interest is the period that saw the birth of the universal languages that gave birth to science itself ...
And their necessary controversy between the protagonists of the novel ...
Do they have any importance in the plot ...
I just don’t know. Maybe I read far enough, but don’t remember.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by Dormouse559 » Thu 24 May 2018, 07:23

I've been reading La modernité au village. Tignes, Savines, Ubaye… La submersion de communes rurales au nom de l'intérêt général, which is about three French villages that were flooded when dams were built downstream from them. Specifically, I'm interested in Tignes because it would be in my concountry of Silvia, and the dam that flooded it would at the very least be quite different if it ever existed in the first place. Even leaving most events in this althistory unrealistically similar to our timeline, I can't avoid becoming an armchair expert in the politics of hydroelectricity. :roll:
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by Lao Kou » Thu 31 May 2018, 10:17

Amazon delivered my copy of Red Crag (红岩 hóngyán ) this afternoon. It's a Communist classic which Chinese friends of my generation had to read coming up in China. Back in the day, those who cared in the expat community passed around a copy in English translation to possibly gain some insight. Even then it seemed a little 50s-Communist dated. I don't what triggered for me the memory last week, but I asked my boyfriend (maybe a generation behind) if this was required reading in his school years. He said they only dealt with snippets (though he seems reasonably conversant in the plot). Anyway, my Chinese version has arrived today, so I'll be able to dive into it this afternoon and read it for myself. Yay!
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by DesEsseintes » Fri 01 Jun 2018, 05:30

Lao Kou wrote:
Thu 31 May 2018, 10:17
Amazon delivered my copy of Red Crag (红岩 hóngyán ) this afternoon. It's a Communist classic which Chinese friends of my generation had to read coming up in China. Back in the day, those who cared in the expat community passed around a copy in English translation to possibly gain some insight. Even then it seemed a little 50s-Communist dated. I don't what triggered for me the memory last week, but I asked my boyfriend (maybe a generation behind) if this was required reading in his school years. He said they only dealt with snippets (though he seems reasonably conversant in the plot). Anyway, my Chinese version has arrived today, so I'll be able to dive into it this afternoon and read it for myself. Yay!
I read Lao She’s Four Generations under One Roof 四世同堂 Sì Shì Tóng Táng and promptly promised myself never to read anything from that era again. Apart from the fact that it was simply badly written, the Communist propaganda really ground my gears. Admittedly, Lao She was forced to incorporate the latter into the novel before being allowed to publish it after the founding of the PRC.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by Lao Kou » Fri 01 Jun 2018, 09:48

DesEsseintes wrote:
Fri 01 Jun 2018, 05:30
Lao Kou wrote:
Thu 31 May 2018, 10:17
Amazon delivered my copy of Red Crag (红岩 hóngyán ) this afternoon. It's a Communist classic which Chinese friends of my generation had to read coming up in China. Back in the day, those who cared in the expat community passed around a copy in English translation to possibly gain some insight. Even then it seemed a little 50s-Communist dated. I don't what triggered for me the memory last week, but I asked my boyfriend (maybe a generation behind) if this was required reading in his school years. He said they only dealt with snippets (though he seems reasonably conversant in the plot). Anyway, my Chinese version has arrived today, so I'll be able to dive into it this afternoon and read it for myself. Yay!
I read Lao She’s Four Generations under One Roof 四世同堂 Sì Shì Tóng Táng and promptly promised myself never to read anything from that era again. Apart from the fact that it was simply badly written, the Communist propaganda really ground my gears. Admittedly, Lao She was forced to incorporate the latter into the novel before being allowed to publish it after the founding of the PRC.
As for badly written stuff, I was a translator in Taipei (Chinese to English), and you'd often wonder, "Who wrote this, a second-grader?" But they were techies, not writers.

The translation style of stuff of that era has a certain, well, style. Even stuff on the very edges, like A Small Town Called Hibiscus (also a movie), in the Englishese was just very cautious. I expect to need to put on my wading boots ta make my way through the propangandist muck, but without reading the original, how can you know?

Back in the day, I could have read it in Chinese, but it would have taken forever. These days, I can read one-page English to one-page Chinese, so we'll see what conclusions I draw.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by DesEsseintes » Fri 01 Jun 2018, 11:41

Lao Kou wrote:
Fri 01 Jun 2018, 09:48
DesEsseintes wrote:
Fri 01 Jun 2018, 05:30
Lao Kou wrote:
Thu 31 May 2018, 10:17
Red Crag...
I read Lao She’s Four Generations under One Roof 四世同堂 Sì Shì Tóng Táng and promptly promised myself never to read anything from that era again. Apart from the fact that it was simply badly written, the Communist propaganda really ground my gears. Admittedly, Lao She was forced to incorporate the latter into the novel before being allowed to publish it after the founding of the PRC.
As for badly written stuff, I was a translator in Taipei (Chinese to English), and you'd often wonder, "Who wrote this, a second-grader?" But they were techies, not writers.

The translation style of stuff of that era has a certain, well, style. Even stuff on the very edges, like A Small Town Called Hibiscus (also a movie), in the Englishese was just very cautious. I expect to need to put on my wading boots ta make my way through the propangandist muck, but without reading the original, how can you know?

Back in the day, I could have read it in Chinese, but it would have taken forever. These days, I can read one-page English to one-page Chinese, so we'll see what conclusions I draw.
I did read it in the original.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by Salmoneus » Fri 01 Jun 2018, 22:15

DesEsseintes wrote:
Fri 01 Jun 2018, 05:30
Lao Kou wrote:
Thu 31 May 2018, 10:17
Amazon delivered my copy of Red Crag (红岩 hóngyán ) this afternoon. It's a Communist classic which Chinese friends of my generation had to read coming up in China. Back in the day, those who cared in the expat community passed around a copy in English translation to possibly gain some insight. Even then it seemed a little 50s-Communist dated. I don't what triggered for me the memory last week, but I asked my boyfriend (maybe a generation behind) if this was required reading in his school years. He said they only dealt with snippets (though he seems reasonably conversant in the plot). Anyway, my Chinese version has arrived today, so I'll be able to dive into it this afternoon and read it for myself. Yay!
I read Lao She’s Four Generations under One Roof 四世同堂 Sì Shì Tóng Táng and promptly promised myself never to read anything from that era again. Apart from the fact that it was simply badly written, the Communist propaganda really ground my gears. Admittedly, Lao She was forced to incorporate the latter into the novel before being allowed to publish it after the founding of the PRC.
You could try some Soviet propaganda instead - I gather the quality is somewhat higher. [I have And Quiet Flows the Don haunting my shelves, but it never seems the right time to try it...]
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by Salmoneus » Fri 01 Jun 2018, 22:18

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Sat 29 Jul 2017, 21:25
I've been re-reading Sal's reviews in his Disworld Re-Read Project because why the hell not? I love the Discworld novels and Sal's reviews are pretty damn good. I disagree from time to time on specific points, but when it comes to overall "scores" I'm more or less with him on every book [:)]
Why thank you; you're really much too kind!

That project is nearly at an end now, as, having recently read I Shall Wear Midnight, I've only got two more books to get through. Although I might throw in some tie-in works as well. And I guess I could do the Science of Discworld books...


Anyway, my own most recent reads have been Abercrombie' Before They Are Hanged and Le Guin's The Dispossessed. The former is an improvement over the first of the series, but is still rather weak (and renders itself completely pointless by its conclusion). The latter is very, very dense and nothing happens, but it is thought-provoking and beautifully written.
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Post by sangi39 » Fri 01 Jun 2018, 22:26

Salmoneus wrote:
Fri 01 Jun 2018, 22:18
sangi39 wrote:
Sat 29 Jul 2017, 21:25
I've been re-reading Sal's reviews in his Disworld Re-Read Project because why the hell not? I love the Discworld novels and Sal's reviews are pretty damn good. I disagree from time to time on specific points, but when it comes to overall "scores" I'm more or less with him on every book [:)]
Why thank you; you're really much too kind!

That project is nearly at an end now, as, having recently read I Shall Wear Midnight, I've only got two more books to get through. Although I might throw in some tie-in works as well. And I guess I could do the Science of Discworld books...

...
I've recommended the reviews a couple of times on Discworld-related Facebook groups. I don't know how many people have actually read them, but I think they're worth a read.

I've been making my way through the Tiffany Aching books, trying to build up to finally reading The Shepherd's Crown, and I'm about half-way through Wintersmith at the moment. I think after three years of putting it off, I think I need to read his last book.
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So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by Lao Kou » Sat 02 Jun 2018, 04:20

DesEsseintes wrote:
Fri 01 Jun 2018, 05:30
Lao Kou wrote:
Thu 31 May 2018, 10:17
I expect to need to put on my wading boots to make my way through the propagandist muck, but without reading the original, how can you know?
I did read it in the original.
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. By "you" I didn't mean you, but "one". I should have written, "How can one know?", or clearer still, "How can I know?"
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

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sangi39 wrote:
Fri 01 Jun 2018, 22:26
Salmoneus wrote:
Fri 01 Jun 2018, 22:18
sangi39 wrote:
Sat 29 Jul 2017, 21:25
I've been re-reading Sal's reviews in his Disworld Re-Read Project because why the hell not? I love the Discworld novels and Sal's reviews are pretty damn good. I disagree from time to time on specific points, but when it comes to overall "scores" I'm more or less with him on every book [:)]
Why thank you; you're really much too kind!

That project is nearly at an end now, as, having recently read I Shall Wear Midnight, I've only got two more books to get through. Although I might throw in some tie-in works as well. And I guess I could do the Science of Discworld books...

...
I've recommended the reviews a couple of times on Discworld-related Facebook groups. I don't know how many people have actually read them, but I think they're worth a read.

I've been making my way through the Tiffany Aching books, trying to build up to finally reading The Shepherd's Crown, and I'm about half-way through Wintersmith at the moment. I think after three years of putting it off, I think I need to read his last book.
I also read some of them, from time to time.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by SLiV » Wed 29 Aug 2018, 20:15

I'm halfway through Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen, my mother's favorite author. Maybe it's heightened because I miss her, but I'm surprised by how much I genuinely like it, and by how funny it is. The language used is a treasure as well. Of course there are a bunch of nice formalisms like "he is very agreeable" or "I do not have the pleasure of understanding you", but there are also some mind boggling spellings such as chuse and shew.
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Re: What have you been reading lately?

Post by alynnidalar » Wed 29 Aug 2018, 21:24

Hey, I just finished re-reading that last night! It's good. Like you say, it's extremely funny, and a lot of the humor is exactly my style--very sarcastic. Austen is a master of cloaking criticism in polite language. She's also really good at unreliable narrators and layers of unreliable narrators--you'll have a letter telling secondhand information, being read by a character who is commenting on or summarizing the letter, being commented on or summarized by the narrator, for example. You can just take the surface interpretation, but if you read between the lines, there's so much more going on. (for one notable example, this is the third or fourth time I've read the book, yet this is the first time I realized Charlotte is pregnant by the end of the novel! See if you can spot the line where it's implied...)

I think my favorite archaic spelling in the book is "teazing", which looks like a mashup of "teasing" and "hazing" (but, of course, just means "teasing").

On a different angle, I think a lot of people think they won't like Austen's stuff because it's "romance novels"--but while they certainly use romance, courtship, and marriage as the foundation for the plots, they're a lot more than that. P&P is as much about Elizabeth's life, her relationship with her family, and her growing as a person as it is about her romantic relationships. In many ways, it's more realistic fiction than straight romance.
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