Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 00:56

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So the English cognate has the form /Vt/?
As a more or less stand alone form, yes. But in general this would not be the most common use of the word.
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 01:03

When the English cognate appears in compound words, is it always unstressed?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 01:11

GrandPiano wrote:
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When the English cognate appears in compound words, is it always unstressed?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 01:45

Is "ei" a noun?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 02:08

GrandPiano wrote:
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Is "ei" a noun?
Yes
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 02:16

Is “öid” also a noun?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 02:41

GrandPiano wrote:
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Is “öid” also a noun?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 03:06

Is the common combined form of the English cognate of "ei" the same as the /Vt/ form but without the /t/?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 03:16

GrandPiano wrote:
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Is the common combined form of the English cognate of "ei" the same as the /Vt/ form but without the /t/?
No, not orthographically and not phonetically.
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 03:50

Is the vowel different?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 04:17

GrandPiano wrote:
Sat 13 Oct 2018, 03:50
Is the vowel different?
Yes.

I really don't think tracking down the Modern English cognate is going to be very effective in finding either of these words. Just an FYI.
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 04:59

...And I now see you specifically said Old English, not just English.

Did the Old English cognate of "ei" have the form /Vt/?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 13:43

GrandPiano wrote:
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...And I now see you specifically said Old English, not just English.

Did the Old English cognate of "ei" have the form /Vt/?
No
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 14:32

/VtV/?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 16:17

GrandPiano wrote:
Sat 13 Oct 2018, 14:32
/VtV/?
Nope. By way of a hint, I'd say that the fact that it looks like it could be cognate to both egg and day says a lot about its syllable shape in Old English.
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 17:35

Did it have a <g> /j/ in Old English?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 18:30

GrandPiano wrote:
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Did it have a <g> /j/ in Old English?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 19:44

Was it /Vjt/ in Old English?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 20:48

GrandPiano wrote:
Sat 13 Oct 2018, 19:44
Was it /Vjt/ in Old English?
No. Just a reminder that I said that in modern English this word only survives in composed forms. That /t/ is a modern English reflex of an Old English morpheme that was added to the word. That additional morpheme is not part of this word.
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by GrandPiano » Sat 13 Oct 2018, 21:24

So just /Vj/ in Old English?
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