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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by shimobaatar » Sat 14 Apr 2018, 06:08

idov wrote:
Fri 13 Apr 2018, 06:06
1. B
2. A
3. D (Shimo's suggestion)

Hmm. It's like it's telling me something.
No one's forcing you to participate if you're not happy with the way things are going.
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by idov » Sat 14 Apr 2018, 14:35

I meant that my choices have literally been "BAD". It's self-deprecating humor. I am happy with the thread, but would like to see the fruits of our choices so far, as well as getting into the messy grammar like Nachtuil. I see no contradiction here.
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » Mon 16 Apr 2018, 15:10

Hey guys, I'm back! Sorry for ghosting, things just got really hectic. On the plus side, I qualified to the state tournament in impromptu speaking!

1: C
Spoiler:
e>ɛ
2: B
Spoiler:
/a/ will not palatalize a consonant.
3: D(Shimo's)
Spoiler:
ɛ o a ǝ>Ø/_# unless it makes an illegal syllable.
This puts our vowel inventory at
/i u/
/e: o o:/
/ɛ ǝ/
/a/

Consonants are at
/p b t d k g/
/f θ ð s z ʃ ʒ ç x ɣ h/
/ʋ l j w/
/l ʎ/
/n m ŋ/
+palatalazation
Will come up with grammar questions soon.
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by shimobaatar » Mon 16 Apr 2018, 17:00

CarsonDaConlanger wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 15:10
Hey guys, I'm back! Sorry for ghosting, things just got really hectic. On the plus side, I qualified to the state tournament in impromptu speaking!
No worries at all! I'm sure we can all understand how life can be.

Also, congratulations!
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » Tue 17 Apr 2018, 12:40

shimobaatar wrote:
Mon 16 Apr 2018, 17:00
Also, congratulations!
Thanks!
Stop!
It's grammar time!

1. Should our grammar move towards being more synthetic, or isolating?
A.Synthetic
B.Isolating

Other questions will be based off of this.
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by spanick » Tue 17 Apr 2018, 15:45

1. A
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by shimobaatar » Tue 17 Apr 2018, 16:07

1: a
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Nachtuil » Tue 17 Apr 2018, 22:41

Hmmm....I wish we had an option C for about the same. I guess going in A direction is more interesting than remaining static.

1. B
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » Mon 23 Apr 2018, 13:45

Results are in, we will be getting more synthetic.
Now for more questions:
1. Should we cliticize prepositions?
A) Yes
B) No
C) Only some

2. Should we add a dedicated future conjugation to verbs?
A) yes
B) No
C) Another idea
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by idov » Mon 23 Apr 2018, 19:36

1. C
2. A
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by shimobaatar » Mon 23 Apr 2018, 19:50

1: c
2: a
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by spanick » Mon 23 Apr 2018, 20:00

1. A
2. A
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Nachtuil » Tue 24 Apr 2018, 21:14

1. a
2. a
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Nachtuil » Sun 13 May 2018, 20:10

We need someone to break the tie!
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Nachtuil » Thu 17 May 2018, 01:19

I'll break the tie by changing my own vote. Instead of 1.a. 2.a I will go 1.c 2.a
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » Thu 17 May 2018, 02:40

In that case, The results are:
1C
2A
We can move on to how the hell that will work.
1:
I am open to various suggestions for 1C. I have a few Ideas:
of
on
in
to
at(loc)
at(dat)
Once we have a bunch, we can vote on which ones. I will probably take the most popular 5~10 depending on how many there are. \
2: Future tense
Should it be
A) a contraction based on will
B) something else
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by idov » Thu 17 May 2018, 16:14

1. I think it would be the best to cliticize some that end in obstruents, so <of> and <at> among those listed, unless they don't anymore due to sound changes. They could be realized as [v] and [t] and assimilate in voicing to any obstruent that starts the next word. Prepositions that end in vowel could get an excrescent approximant so that <to us> and <through us> would be realized as [tuwʌs] and [θɹuwʌs] respectively.
Spoiler:
<as at of off through to> as well as combinations like <into> are my suggestions.
2. B From <gonna>. It has the advantage over <will> that it always stands next to the main verb.
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Nachtuil » Sat 19 May 2018, 04:05

I need to think on this. What are all our prepositions looking like after the sound changes?

I feel as though the /t/ in "to" would stick around and be an excellent candidate for cliticization.

I think that is a good point about "gonna" that Idov makes.
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » Tue 22 May 2018, 15:18

Ok, so what I have so far are these:
-t(to (dat))
-at(at (loc))
-as(as)
-v(of)
-f(off)
-nit(into)
I think we can just go ahead an use these.
I have to return my school computer tomorrow, and I have limited usage of the family computer, so I won't be able to continue moderating this collab. It's been really fun, and I love seeing where this is going. If there's someone who wants to do it, I would love to pass the torch.
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Nachtuil » Tue 22 May 2018, 18:39

Honestly, that works for me. Shouldn't into become "int" though?
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