The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by alynnidalar » 09 Oct 2018 21:25

Pre-Oktoberfest? When do they have actual Oktoberfest, and how could Oktoberfest in mid-to-late October be considered super early??

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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by shimobaatar » 20 Oct 2018 05:33

So… I just turned 21, which feels a little weird, but also, of course, completely normal at the same time.

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Post by Ælfwine » 20 Oct 2018 06:16

shimobaatar wrote:
20 Oct 2018 05:33
So… I just turned 21, which feels a little weird, but also, of course, completely normal at the same time.
Happy Birthday!

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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by DesEsseintes » 20 Oct 2018 07:36

shimobaatar wrote:
20 Oct 2018 05:33
So… I just turned 21, which feels a little weird, but also, of course, completely normal at the same time.
Happy birthday!!

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Post by Lao Kou » 20 Oct 2018 10:14

Ælfwine wrote:
20 Oct 2018 06:16
shimobaatar wrote:
20 Oct 2018 05:33
So… I just turned 21, which feels a little weird, but also, of course, completely normal at the same time.
Happy Birthday!
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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by shimobaatar » 20 Oct 2018 15:31

Ælfwine wrote:
20 Oct 2018 06:16
Happy Birthday!
DesEsseintes wrote:
20 Oct 2018 07:36
Happy birthday!!
Lao Kou wrote:
20 Oct 2018 10:14
Just so!
Thank you!

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Post by sangi39 » 20 Oct 2018 16:23

shimobaatar wrote:
20 Oct 2018 05:33
So… I just turned 21, which feels a little weird, but also, of course, completely normal at the same time.
I'm not sure on time differences, but happy birthday! Welcome to "you're basically an adult now" [:D]
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That they all still believe in you.
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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by Frislander » 20 Oct 2018 17:28

Oh wow only 21? You carry the old sage air fantastically well shimo!

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Post by KaiTheHomoSapien » 20 Oct 2018 18:59

Yeah, I think I thought you were older too, shimo. Happy birthday [:D]
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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by shimobaatar » 20 Oct 2018 21:35

sangi39 wrote:
20 Oct 2018 16:23
I'm not sure on time differences, but happy birthday! Welcome to "you're basically an adult now" [:D]
Thank you! [:D]
Frislander wrote:
20 Oct 2018 17:28
Oh wow only 21? You carry the old sage air fantastically well shimo!
Haha, thank you!
KaiTheHomoSapien wrote:
20 Oct 2018 18:59
Yeah, I think I thought you were older too, shimo. Happy birthday [:D]
Thanks!

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Post by Creyeditor » 26 Oct 2018 22:10

New layout of at the LCS webpage. Has anyone else noticed? I like it better than before.
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Post by kiwikami » 26 Oct 2018 23:05

Does anyone ever write up information on their conlangs' phonology, or anything else for that matter, using Optimality Theory? I don't think I've ever seen it, and I mean, fair enough. (I'm not personally an enormous fan.) Rules are easier to enumerate than constraints and no one wants to make a dozen tableaus. But it'd be kind of neat to see, and I've used it now and then to practice the system.

I've also been messing with autosegmental phonology a lot lately to play with tone systems (and because John Goldsmith). Do any people use to explain/describe tonal conlangs?
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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by elemtilas » 27 Oct 2018 00:19

Creyeditor wrote:
26 Oct 2018 22:10
New layout of at the LCS webpage. Has anyone else noticed? I like it better than before.
Yes. They did a good job, actually.
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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by Creyeditor » 27 Oct 2018 11:03

kiwikami wrote:
26 Oct 2018 23:05
Does anyone ever write up information on their conlangs' phonology, or anything else for that matter, using Optimality Theory? I don't think I've ever seen it, and I mean, fair enough. (I'm not personally an enormous fan.) Rules are easier to enumerate than constraints and no one wants to make a dozen tableaus. But it'd be kind of neat to see, and I've used it now and then to practice the system.

I've also been messing with autosegmental phonology a lot lately to play with tone systems (and because John Goldsmith). Do any people use to explain/describe tonal conlangs?
I sometimes do. And I heard that some people use it in certain areas of phonology, IIRC mostly for stress assignment and phonotactics. I feel like constraints make much more sense in that area, but I am not a huge fan of rule-based synchronic phonology. And if some processes conspire against certain structures it makes sense stating these constraints. The good thing is that we as conlangers are allowed to use constraints AND rules. That's what I often do, e.g. structure X is dispreferred and repaired by either rule X, Y or Z.
I made some phonology sketches that are very autosegmental, i.e. easily describable in classic autosegmental phonology, but hard to describe without it. But more importantly, just yesterday I had an idea about a language where everything but length and tone is autosegmental. Words would consist of a CV skeleton with length and tone e.g. cv́cːv̀cv̄ː. Each word is then -- for each otherwise segmental feature -- associated with a melody of at most three values, e.g. for [+/-nasal]: +-+. OCP is active, so adjacent identical values in melodies are prohibited. I will have to work on this idea a bit more, to see what effects it would have. Prepare to find it in the random phonology thread some time.
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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by KaiTheHomoSapien » 28 Oct 2018 16:49

I saw a Cambridge text on "Optimality Theory" at the campus book store. Must be required for an upper div course. I guess I'll have to learn about that later :)
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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by Lambuzhao » 29 Oct 2018 00:29

Ælfwine wrote:
20 Oct 2018 06:16
shimobaatar wrote:
20 Oct 2018 05:33
So… I just turned 21, which feels a little weird, but also, of course, completely normal at the same time.
Happy Birthday!

Wait until you are 24, then you'll start to feel old.
You youngins r something else!
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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by Lambuzhao » 29 Oct 2018 00:36

alynnidalar wrote:
09 Oct 2018 21:25
Pre-Oktoberfest? When do they have actual Oktoberfest, and how could Oktoberfest in mid-to-late October be considered super early??
mid-September [B)]

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Re: The Quintessential 5th Conversation Thread

Post by Lambuzhao » 29 Oct 2018 00:41

KaiTheHomoSapien wrote:
03 Oct 2018 03:34
I'm pleased by how much of my Introduction to Linguistics course feels like review [:D] I guess I knew more about this subject than I thought. I owe most of that to conlanging, that's for sure :mrgreen:
That was a similar pleasure when I took my Grad-level Spanish linguistics classes. Too many people begging for livesaving buoys while drowning in a boiling IPA alphabet-soup, their brains addling and melting while trying to write a phonemic and phonetic transcription of
Dr. Holmkvist's field recordings of campesinos puertorriqueños - and me just coasting along, chomping it all down like a linguistic Pacman chasing only blue ghosts ~ W00T for :con: langers & glossopoesy!!! [:D]

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Post by shimobaatar » 29 Oct 2018 00:56

Lambuzhao wrote:
29 Oct 2018 00:29
Happiest Birthday, Shimo!
I must admit I'm not entirely sure what the rest of your post there meant, but thank you!

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Post by Birdlang » 01 Nov 2018 11:55

shimobaatar wrote:
20 Oct 2018 05:33
So… I just turned 21, which feels a little weird, but also, of course, completely normal at the same time.
Happy belated birthday. I’m turning 21 soon too.
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