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by cedh
25 Aug 2019 23:07
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: British Romance Language Collablang
Replies: 506
Views: 82623

Re: British Romance Language Collablang

218) a
219) c: /ɪ ʊ ə ɛ ɔ æ/ > [ɪ ʊ ɐ ɛ ɔ ɑ]
220) c: /iː uː eː oː ɑː/ > [eɪ̯ oʊ̯ ɛː ɔː ɑː] after /ʁ/, and [ɪə̯ uə̯ eɐ̯ oɐ̯ ɑː] before /ʁ/
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by cedh
02 Aug 2019 19:53
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 16
Views: 4006

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

[...]For example, they often are or contain so-called "harmonic clusters" consisting of two obstruents, the first of them labial or coronal, and the second velar or uvular, which behave as a single segment in various situations. Can the same consonant clusters also be used "as non-harmonic" like /a...
by cedh
29 Jul 2019 21:33
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 16
Views: 4006

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

One of the most interesting languages worldwide with regard to phonotactics IMO is Georgian. It has very complex consonant clusters, especially in syllable onsets (and especially word-initially), as in /prt͡skvna/ ‘to peel’, /mt͡s’vrtneli/ ‘trainer’, or /brt’χ’eli/ ‘flat’. It also allows quite compl...
by cedh
19 Jul 2019 08:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5689
Views: 1334575

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Any ideas how infixes arise? I know analogised metathesis is one way, but I wanted to find a way for vowel infixing. For a vowel infix between two consonants, epenthesis based on phonotactic restrictions (e.g. breaking up difficult clusters) or prosodic considerations (e.g. to prevent two stressed ...
by cedh
18 Jul 2019 14:10
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4376
Views: 888017

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Are there other natlangs that have different forms of adjectives depending on whether they're used attributively or predicatively? I'm sure I know examples, I just can't think of any right now. Are they always a few irregular forms (like English my vs. mine and lone vs. alone) or are there any lang...
by cedh
10 Jul 2019 15:29
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
Replies: 24
Views: 3690

Re: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request

You might want to look into serial verb constructions ; specifically, at the way some languages use serialized "coverbs" in order to express positional and directional meanings. Two good introductions are "The serial verb construction: Comparative concept and cross-linguistic generalizations" by Mar...
by cedh
14 Jun 2019 19:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Silvish
Replies: 202
Views: 35794

Re: Silvish

You're welcome!
by cedh
12 Jun 2019 18:32
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Silvish
Replies: 202
Views: 35794

Re: Silvish

So, if I understand it correctly: - a stressed penult will always be followed by a syllable with an unstressed short vowel - an unstressed penult will always be followed by a stressed final syllable - a final syllable with a long vowel will always be stressed If the above is true, I would suggest th...
by cedh
09 Jun 2019 12:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Silvish
Replies: 202
Views: 35794

Re: Silvish

Can you give a few example words with unstressed long vowels in the penult? Maybe you can find a rule for when these occur...
by cedh
21 May 2019 14:20
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4376
Views: 888017

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Here's an elaborate explanation (in German). The main points, summarized in English: The simple past has its main use as a narrative past tense , especially in the written language. Reading/hearing a text that uses this form feels kind of like watching a film, where events are reported without rega...
by cedh
02 May 2019 16:57
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4376
Views: 888017

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

In Germanic languages apart from English, do participles ever get used in clauses like particularly in the classical IE languages? eg. :eng: Having entered the city/upon entering the city, we proceeded to look for the king. :lat: Civitatem ingressi, regni inquirere processimus. German can do this: ...
by cedh
23 Apr 2019 00:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5689
Views: 1334575

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Yes. (Although your system is a bit unusual in that you are marking inverse voice on the unexpected agent rather than on the verb, which makes it superficially look a bit like a kind of "pseudo-ergative" case with a slightly odd distribution.)
by cedh
11 Apr 2019 09:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2780
Views: 677507

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I agree with sangi39 that the lack of /tsʼ tɬʼ/ is fairly unusual in such an inventory, but given your relatively simple syllable structure, this lack is easy to explain with diachronics: Suppose an earlier stage of the language had no glottalized consonants, with only /p t k ʔ/ as voiceless stops, ...
by cedh
07 Mar 2019 00:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5689
Views: 1334575

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I see. That's how applicatives on a transitive base often work, and yes, it would be like swapping arguments. But what if you change both the case and the word order, like I suggested above: John-NOM letter-ALL/DAT pen-ACC write-APPL or John-NOM letter-ACC pen-ACC write-APPL Would any of the above s...
by cedh
06 Mar 2019 09:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5689
Views: 1334575

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does your language already have an alternative ditransitive construction distinct from donor-[nominative] recipient-[accusative] VERB theme-[instrumental] , where the relative focus level of recipient and theme is different? If yes, I'd suggest using that construction for applicativized verbs too. W...
by cedh
05 Mar 2019 11:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5689
Views: 1334575

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

There are languages where applicativized versions of transitive or ditransitive verbs do not actually increase valency, but instead demote the original object to oblique status. Sometimes this demoted object is marked with the same case or adposition that the applied object used to have before appli...
by cedh
28 Feb 2019 08:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2780
Views: 677507

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

What about [+/-nasal], [+/-dorsal], [+/-labial], giving something like the following? /p t/ /kʷ k/ /m n/ /ŋʷ ŋ/ This could even be expanded to vowels: /y i/ /u ɑ/ /ỹ ĩ/ /ũ ɑ̃/ Or else, [+/-voiced], [+/-continuant], [+/-labial]: /p t~k/ /b~m d~ɡ~n~ŋ/ /f s~ʃ~x~h/ /w r~l~j/ Depending on whether you cou...
by cedh
09 Dec 2018 10:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: British Romance Language Collablang
Replies: 506
Views: 82623

Re: British Romance Language Collablang

98: a 99: b 100: d: /f v s z ʃ/ - <f~ff f s~ss s sci~sc> (/f s/ would be <f s> word-initially and adjacent to a consonant, and <ff ss> intervocalically. /ʃ/ would be <sci> before back vowels and <sc> before front vowels, i.e. the same orthographic alternation as with /tʃ/ <ci~c> in 99b.) 101: b Can ...
by cedh
06 Dec 2018 08:24
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5689
Views: 1334575

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Verb-medial (SVO) languages tend not to be ergative/absolutive. See http://aveneca.com/cbb/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1454&p=60979&hilit=Verb+medial+non+ergative#p60979 http://aveneca.com/cbb/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1454&p=72868&hilit=Verb+medial+non+ergative#p72868 http://aveneca.com/cbb/viewtopic.php?f=29...
by cedh
22 Nov 2018 18:22
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4376
Views: 888017

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does anyone know of a natural language where the grammatical marking of a certain type of oblique object is suppletive based on the number, definiteness, or topicality of the subject of the clause? For example, a language that regularly uses one adposition to mark a certain type of oblique object wh...