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by Omzinesý
25 May 2019 19:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Something on nouns: Three genders - Masculine - Feminine - Plural (There are many pluralia-tantum words and singulatives are usual.) Five cases - Direct (The case of subjects and arguments) - Exclamative (The case of language-external topics/subjects that appear in the context of the speech partners...
by Omzinesý
21 May 2019 18:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

I'm still not happy with the verb agreement marking. Anyways, I go on with the verb. The verb template is: root-TENSE-MOOD-EPIST.C-PERSON The idea for the mood system is borrowed from Greenlandic. So there are finite moods for subordinate clauses as well, where many other languages would use conjunc...
by Omzinesý
21 May 2019 18:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14707
Views: 1236413

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does anyone know of any resources for learning about how relative clauses are handled in polypersonal/polysynthetic marked languages? Or failing that, can you write some ideas here if you know them off hand? I guess subject/object agreement doesn't have to affect relative clauses very much. - Finit...
by Omzinesý
21 May 2019 18:20
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6946
Views: 828800

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Here's an elaborate explanation (in German). The main points, summarized in English: The simple past has its main use as a narrative past tense , especially in the written language. Reading/hearing a text that uses this form feels kind of like watching a film, where events are reported without rega...
by Omzinesý
21 May 2019 10:30
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6946
Views: 828800

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Some people claim that there is a difference. I'm not sure if this is true though, for me some very frequent verbs use past tense (`war' and not `ist gewesen') and other verbs use the perfect (`hat gearbeitet' not `arbeitete'). The example usually claimed to differentiate is: Past tense ungrammatic...
by Omzinesý
20 May 2019 11:11
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6946
Views: 828800

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

In German, Simple Past (machte) and Perfect (hat gemacht) have same time reference and their difference lies in register.
Spoken language uses Simple Past forms of some verbs only. Do the Perfect forms and Simple Past forms of those verbs differ in meaning (war and ist gewesen for example)?
by Omzinesý
19 May 2019 09:49
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

<t>So you think there could be three kinds of egophoricity, 1) speaker having epistemic authority, 2) addressee having epistemic authority, and 3) somebody else having epistemic authority. <br/> <br/> First, I think it shouldn't be called egophoricity. "Ego" means "I" anyways. (tu-phoricity?) <br/> ...
by Omzinesý
18 May 2019 09:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

In imperatives, would first-person egophoricity be a for-real imperative, and second-person egophoricity be a request? Very few languages have first person imperatives. Imperatives are non-factual, by definition, so I think expressing epistemic authority (or any other epistemic category) over infor...
by Omzinesý
16 May 2019 18:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

A new version of verb inflection The intransitive inflection is easy and agglutinative. Epistemic slot -a 'Sensory' -i 'Egophoric' -u 'Fact' -o 'Reportative' Person slot -ya 'I' -zero with the egophoric form -hu 'you' -k 'he/it' -c 'she/it' -p 'they' The mood system is still coming. -p is Indicative...
by Omzinesý
16 May 2019 17:36
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Actually I think egophoricity markers usually develop from existential copulae. But it's some years since I have read about them. That's true for Tibetan at least, but I wouldn't know how wide that typology extends beyond it. At least in Bunan egophoric marking developed from the reanalysis of pers...
by Omzinesý
14 May 2019 08:27
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

The problem with egophoricity and morphology is that I don't know any language with both egophoricity marking and subject person agreement. Typologically they are distinct phenomena but I have no exemplars of natlangs. They usually don't occur together and egophoric marking certainly can develop fr...
by Omzinesý
07 May 2019 18:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

What’s egophoricity again? It's about coding personal authority over the information; in the classical case being personal knowledge by the subject. The characteristic egophoric pattern is that you mark the 1st person in applicable declarative clauses and the 2nd person in questions, meaning that y...
by Omzinesý
03 May 2019 22:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Miršian - a Finnic conlang
Replies: 13
Views: 641

Re: Miršian - a Finnic conlang

The passive Miršian passive differs from those of Finnish and Estonian in that it agrees the number of its subject. Syntactically it also is more subjectlike than its counterparts. singular plural Present -taš -tašt Past -taś -taśt Finnic passive is explained as a kind of middle-voice form of a caus...
by Omzinesý
03 May 2019 17:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

First attempt for verb morphology Verbs agree the subject and the gender of a definite object. The example verb is "luk". I don't know what it should mean. Egophoric /e/ and /yu/ can be interpreted as markers egophoricity. Subject markers: sg1 and pl1incl don't have markers. 1st person marker is /t...
by Omzinesý
03 May 2019 16:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Phonotactics The only allowed consonant clusters consist of two obstruents with the same MOA (pt, gd, mn ...). The first one does not have an own explosion. A semivowel /w, j <y>) can however appear between a consonant and a vowel. "pkyamn" is thus an allowed syllable. Every sonorant has a prestopp...
by Omzinesý
02 May 2019 13:41
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Orthography doesnt have anything special

p t c k
b d j g
m n ñ (bm dn jñ)
s x
l ll (dl jll)
r dr
y w ġ (jy gw gġ)

i u
e ǝ o
a
by Omzinesý
29 Apr 2019 10:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 85
Views: 14541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread Project XIII

A new project with old ingredients p t c k b d ɟ g m n ɲ (bm dn ɟɲ) s ɕ l ʎ (dl ɟʎ) ɾ (dɾ) j w ʁ (ɟj gw ɢʁ) All sonorants have a prestopped pair that appears as a consonant mutation in morphology. i u e ə o ä Length is distinctive except with /ə/. Phonotactics is the boring CVC. Long vowels only app...
by Omzinesý
28 Apr 2019 09:27
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Miršian - a Finnic conlang
Replies: 13
Views: 641

Re: Miršian - a Finnic conlang

I'm changing the sound changes a bit 1. All unstressed /o/s merge with /u/s. That happens in Estonian too. o [-stress] => u 2. All long /a:/s become /o/ (through /o:/). a [+long] => o 3. Nouns ending in /u/, both original /u/ and earlier /o/, have Genitive in /o/ which is analogy with i-e nouns.
by Omzinesý
25 Apr 2019 15:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Mishero مِسْهَرو
Replies: 29
Views: 4390

Re: Mishero مِسْهَرو

Interesting, especially the weird stuff like contrasting /ɹ/ and /ɻ/, having only one retroflex consonant, having creaky and breathy voice in a language set in Iraq, etc. I have no idea which is the standard transliteration for /ŋ/ in languages written in Arabic orthography. I used غ just because i...
by Omzinesý
25 Apr 2019 15:36
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6946
Views: 828800

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

What languages other than Celtic have word-initial consonant mutations expressing grammatical meanings? Celtic langs cannot be that unique it only appears in them.