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by Omzinesý
14 Aug 2019 22:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297526

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm wondering subject properties of chain verb constructions. In (1), come and give share the subject and subject marking is straightforward, but in (2), the subject of die is the object of hit . How do languages with serial verbs mark it or should it just be understood from the context? I understan...
by Omzinesý
12 Aug 2019 08:46
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 16
Views: 657

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

Salmoneus wrote:
12 Aug 2019 00:07
Omzinesý wrote:
11 Aug 2019 18:22
Chechen allows geminates on onset.
Likewise, famously, much of Italian.

EDIT: although in Italian iirc it's a syntactic mutation, not lexical.
You mean the a[k] casa thing? Or does Italian do something else?
by Omzinesý
12 Aug 2019 08:42
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Miršian - a Finnic conlang
Replies: 17
Views: 920

Re: Miršian - a Finnic conlang

The terminative will be -nk from *-nik The approximative will be -mp from *-mba-s Are terminative and approximative: Aspects? Or Moods? Or Cases? Or Something else? They are noun cases, in the above paradigm. Approximative mean "towards" and Terminative "into, as far as". The lang distinguishes the...
by Omzinesý
11 Aug 2019 18:22
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 16
Views: 657

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

Chechen allows geminates on onset.
by Omzinesý
11 Aug 2019 16:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Miršian - a Finnic conlang
Replies: 17
Views: 920

Re: Miršian - a Finnic conlang

The newest version of the case paradigm. ćeli 'language/tong' (Finnish kieli, Estonian keel) Singular NOM ćeli GEN/ACC ćele DAT ćelel <= ćele-le (old allative) LOC ćeles ABL ćelet <= ćele-sta (old elative) APPR ćelemp <= ćele-mba-s (old comparative lative) TERM ćelenk <= ćele-ni-k (Estonian [i]keele...
by Omzinesý
09 Aug 2019 21:20
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Miršian - a Finnic conlang
Replies: 17
Views: 920

Re: Miršian - a Finnic conlang

The terminative will be
-nk from *-nik

The approximative will be
-mp from *-mba-s
by Omzinesý
07 Aug 2019 18:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 59
Views: 15541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Random idea I may use in some lang: There are't very many onset clusters but t, c, and k can be followed by a lateral that assimilates with the POA of the stop: tl, cʎ, kʟ. You could also maybe do /p̼l̼/, corresponding to simple onset /p/. I think linguo-labials are a bit too rare. And the system d...
by Omzinesý
06 Aug 2019 21:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 59
Views: 15541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

A random idea for some future lang

Vowels have three suprasegmentals 1) short vowel with a neutral tone 2) long vowel with a rising tone 3) long vowel with a lowering tone.

Written
a
á
à

Cyrillic
а
аь
аъ
by Omzinesý
03 Aug 2019 09:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden
Replies: 21
Views: 814

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

A attempt for a new vowel system. It has some Germanic feel. y:, i:, u: <ü, i/ij, o> ʏ, ɪ, ʊ <y, i, u> ø:, e:, o: <ö, e, å> ɐ, ɑ: <ä, a> The long vowels only appear in open syllables or stressed, final syllables with only one coda consonant. In unstressed syllables they though lose their length and ...
by Omzinesý
02 Aug 2019 12:38
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 16
Views: 657

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

[...]For example, they often are or contain so-called "harmonic clusters" consisting of two obstruents, the first of them labial or coronal, and the second velar or uvular, which behave as a single segment in various situations. Can the same consonant clusters also be used "as non-harmonic" like /a...
by Omzinesý
02 Aug 2019 12:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 59
Views: 15541

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Random idea I may use in some lang:

There are't very many onset clusters but t, c, and k can be followed by a lateral that assimilates with the POA of the stop: tl, cʎ, kʟ.
by Omzinesý
29 Jul 2019 20:32
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 16
Views: 657

Languages with interesting phonotactics

Which languages' phonotactics do you consider interesting or exceptional? Or which phonotactic features in some language do you consider interesting or exceptional? I think most phonotactics of conlangs are very similar. So give us examples of different phonotactics in natlangs, so we can take new i...
by Omzinesý
29 Jul 2019 11:36
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden
Replies: 21
Views: 814

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

A new attempt on adpositions Adpositional phrases can appear as 1) preposition noun+NOM, 2) noun+GEN postposition, or 3) preposition noun+NOM postposition. 1) preposition noun+NOM Location prepositions Is 'at' Aj 'from' Ha 'to' Ran 'through' Prepositions of location are usually used in generic conte...
by Omzinesý
28 Jul 2019 02:28
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
Replies: 20
Views: 981

Re: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request

Finnish (1) Menin talo-on sisään. I.went house-ILL in(to) (2) Menin talo-n sisään. I.went house.GEN in(to) Both mean 'I went into the house.' (1) has an adverb "sisään" that kind of codes the same info as the illative form of the noun. (2) has a postposition "sisään" that governs the genitive. I do...
by Omzinesý
27 Jul 2019 15:30
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
Replies: 20
Views: 981

Re: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request

This is not quite a comment on the discussion but fits the title. I've been reading about the difference between adpositions and adverbs. Finnish (1) Menin talo-on sisään. I.went house-ILL in(to) (2) Menin talo-n sisään. I.went house.GEN in(to) Both mean 'I went into the house.' (1) has an adverb "s...
by Omzinesý
25 Jul 2019 01:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2764
Views: 653496

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Phoneme inventory p t c k f θ ç x m n s ɕ l r j ɰ w i ɨ u e ə o ä Phonotactics (C)V(glide[+/- nasal]) or (C)l/r So there aren't real coda consonants but r/l can appear as distinct syllables in the position. Vowels can be followed by a glide that is either nasalized or not. Stress This is a pitch acc...
by Omzinesý
23 Jul 2019 22:05
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden
Replies: 21
Views: 814

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

Adpositions There are three forms of each adposition. That nicely combines Finnic/Saami inflecting postpositions/positional nouns and Germanic monosyllabic prepositions. Either can be used. Prepositions appear with Nominative case of their head and postpositions appear with Genitive-Dative of their...
by Omzinesý
23 Jul 2019 18:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden
Replies: 21
Views: 814

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

Pronouns Ven [ve:n] 'I' Tuo [tuo] 'you' Y [y:] 'he/she/it' Ött [øt:] 'it' - refers to clauses Plurals are regular -zi Venzi [venzi] 'we' also Swedish vi [vi:] is used. Tuozi [tuozi] 'you' Yzi [y:zi] 'they' They also have dative forms Vej Tuoj Yj [y:j] Ötti Vezij Tuozij Yzij There are no specific obj...
by Omzinesý
23 Jul 2019 17:24
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden
Replies: 21
Views: 814

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

While I killed the infinitive, the concept of finiteness is also blurred. (1) and (2) only differ in that (2) has an own subject while the subject of "ot" is coreferential with that of "ejr" in (1). (1) Ven ejr fi ot suhk. SG1 want COMPLZR go home 'I want to go home.' (2) Ven ejr fi tuo ot suhk. SG1...
by Omzinesý
23 Jul 2019 00:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden
Replies: 21
Views: 814

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

I'll change the infinitive. It will be just "fi" + the present, like in English. Fi ot 'to go' The history of the future marker will also be changed. Earlier it was "furr ota" 'must go.INF' > 'will go' (which is very common in the Baltic region) and later also morphological bleaching to "fot". But t...