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by Porphyrogenitos
07 Aug 2019 06:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 60
Views: 18807

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Random idea I may use in some lang: There are't very many onset clusters but t, c, and k can be followed by a lateral that assimilates with the POA of the stop: tl, cʎ, kʟ. You could also maybe do /p̼l̼/, corresponding to simple onset /p/. A random idea for some future lang Vowels have three supras...
by Porphyrogenitos
12 Jul 2019 16:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 21
Views: 6625

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

A cross between an artlang and an "oligosynthetic" engelang. Phonology /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /p t ts tʃ k/ <p t ts ch k> /b d dz dʒ g/ <b d dz j g> /f θ s ʃ x/ <f th s sh kh> /v ð z ʒ ɣ/ <v dh z zh gh> /l ɾ w j/ <l r w y> /a e i o u ə/ <a e i o u ë> /ai̯ au̯ eu̯ oi̯/ <ai au eu oi> Stress is phrase-final....
by Porphyrogenitos
10 Jul 2019 06:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A simpler version of the nasal-less, fricative-less, labial-less consonant inventory I posted:

/t' c' k'/ <t' c' k'> or <tx cx kx>
/t c k ʔ/ <t c k '> or <t c k x>
/d ɟ g/ <d j g>
/l j w/ <l y w>
/lˀ jˀ wˀ/ <l' y' w'> or <lx yx wx>
by Porphyrogenitos
09 Jul 2019 04:34
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: Random Conworld idea thread
Replies: 317
Views: 97272

Re: Random Conworld idea thread

A thing I thought of today: A society that believes in “lineal reincarnation”; the notion that after you die you are reincarnated as the next one of your descendants to be born. Or in particular the idea that (if you are a man) you are reborn as the next one of your male-line descendants to be born;...
by Porphyrogenitos
09 Jul 2019 04:13
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: German/Yiddish <z>/<tz>
Replies: 4
Views: 1039

Re: German/Yiddish <z>/<tz>

Yiddish doesn't have contrastive vowel length. There is some variation in the Latin-based Yiddish orthography, but it uniformly uses either <tz> or <ts> to represent /ts/, never plain <z>. So German 'dance' is tanz, but the word in Yiddish is transcribed as tantz or sometimes tants.
by Porphyrogenitos
30 Jun 2019 16:25
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/tʼ ʈʼ cʼ kʼ kʼʷ qʼ/ <t' ṭ' c' k' k'w q'> /t ʈ c k kʷ q ʔ/ <t ṭ c k kw q '> /d ɖ ɟ g gʷ ɢ/ <d ḍ j g gw ġ> /l ɻ j w/ <l r y w> /lˀ ɻˀ jˀ wˀ/ <l' r' y' w'> /i iː a aː u uː/ <i ii a aa u uu> Prominent vowel allophones include /i u/ as [e o] adjacent to uvulars, and /a/ as [æ] adjacent to palatals. The ...
by Porphyrogenitos
30 Jun 2019 05:09
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: How would you denote this grammatical category
Replies: 7
Views: 1308

Re: How would you denote this grammatical category

Semantically, this doesn't seem like a very natural class...not if you want it to work for both 'eat' and 'find'. At first I thought "preparative" - to prepare to X. That works with 'eat', but not 'find' - searching is not preparing to find, it is attempting to find. But if it were 'to attempt to X'...
by Porphyrogenitos
30 Jun 2019 04:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5745
Views: 1345106

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Are there any languages that only allow consonant clusters at one place of articulation? I'm imagining something like a language that has /m n ŋ p t k b d g/ and allows (C)(j)V syllables - but then all alveolar and velar /j/ clusters are palatalized to /ɲ c ɟ/, leaving only labials /mj pj bj/ as clu...
by Porphyrogenitos
25 Jun 2019 09:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Did I do this already? I was thinking about something like this again. At a "deeper" level, or rather, at an earlier stage, the consonant inventory can simply be analyzed as: /m n ŋ/ /p t k/ Syllable structure (C)V(C). Nasals assimilate to the following consonant and voice a following stop. Stops un...
by Porphyrogenitos
09 Jun 2019 21:42
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Posted something very similar to this a while back but oh well: ma me mi mə mɨ mʷa mʷe mʷi mo mu na nə nɨ ɲe ɲi nʷa nʷe nʷi no nu pa pe pi po pu ta tə tɨ tʃe tʃi tʷa tʷe tʷi to tu ka ke ki kə kɨ kʷa kʷe kʷi ko ku ʔa ʔe ʔi ʔə ʔɨ sa sə sɨ ʃe ʃi sʷa sʷe sʷi so su ɾa ɾe ɾi ɾə ɾɨ lʷa lʷe lʷi lo lu wa we ...
by Porphyrogenitos
06 Jun 2019 07:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Initials: /m n/ < m n > /p t̪ ts tʃ k ʔ/ < p t ts ch k ∅> /b d̪ dz dʒ g/ < b d dz j g > /f θ s ʃ x h/ < f th s sh kh h > /v ð z ʒ ɣ/ < v dh z zh gh > /l̥ ɾ̥ j̊ w̥/ < lh rh yh wh > /l ɾ j w/ < l r y w > Finals: /i e a o u ə/ < i e a o u ea > /ai̯ au̯/ < ai au > /eŋ aŋ oŋ əŋ/ < en an on ean > Been a l...
by Porphyrogenitos
18 May 2019 17:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Ni'óno3íínow - Esseintially just Latin really
Replies: 61
Views: 8412

Re: Ni'óno3íínow - Esseintially just Latin really

This is a fantastic project. One thing I have to pick at: It's pretty likely that unconditional /f/ > /θ/ is an unnatural sound change (though /θ/ > /f/ is natural). IIRC in a paper or book chapter by Juliette Blevins, she shows that there are no attested cases of /f/ > /θ/ anywhere in the world. Yo...
by Porphyrogenitos
13 May 2019 05:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5745
Views: 1345106

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

The ship sailed on Neogrammarian sound change decades ago (or at least on an absolutist conception of it). We know that sound change isn't perfectly exceptionless but it's necessary to pretend it is when, for example, embarking on the reconstruction of a language family. And that assumption works pr...
by Porphyrogenitos
13 May 2019 04:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-Lothopota
Replies: 6
Views: 301

Re: Proto-Lothopota

I think doubling vowels is a perfectly good orthographic choice for long vowels. It's used in plenty of languages, including Finnish, and historically for the English mid vowels.
by Porphyrogenitos
05 May 2019 08:06
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Something obnoxious - a tongueless phonology. Well, a tongueless consonant inventory: /m/ /p ʔ/ /f h/ /v ʕ/ /ʕ/ is variously [ʕ~ʕ̝~ɦ~ɑ̯] Syllable structure is (C)V(C), with any consonant permitted in coda position, but with some degree of historic and synchronic simplication and assimilation nonethe...
by Porphyrogenitos
22 Apr 2019 02:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/m n ɲ ŋ/ /p t c k ʔ/ /a i u/ Syllable structure is (C)V(C). Nasals assimilate in place to a following consonant, non-nasals assimilate totally to a following consonant. Stops are voiced after nasals, and non-glottal stops are lenited and possibly voiced between stops, maybe something like [ɸ θ ç x]...
by Porphyrogenitos
14 Apr 2019 05:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language
Replies: 4
Views: 307

Re: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language

Nice. An egophoric evidential seems new to me, though maybe it's already a thing in a natlang. It certainly makes sense. That evidential distinction will disappear as soon as speakers merge those unstressed vowels, though. Not to say that ever has to happen. Also, what is that noun that's being decl...
by Porphyrogenitos
06 Apr 2019 00:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

So, a concept based on some things I learned about in some recent classes. A while ago I read about tone sandhi, and how in many Sinitic tone sandhi systems, you'll have a thing where every syllable in a syntactic phrase takes the sandhi-tone except for the last, and how each tone essentially has on...
by Porphyrogenitos
01 Mar 2019 00:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

What about [+/-nasal], [+/-dorsal], [+/-labial], giving something like the following? /p t/ /kʷ k/ /m n/ /ŋʷ ŋ/ Or else, [+/-voiced], [+/-continuant], [+/-labial]: /p t~k/ /b~m d~ɡ~n~ŋ/ /f s~ʃ~x~h/ /w r~l~j/ I always thought that [+/-sonorant],[+/-continuant] and [+/-alveolar] is the perfect cube. ...
by Porphyrogenitos
28 Feb 2019 07:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 2782
Views: 682444

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

WAIT! /t͡ʃ/ is phonemic AND down-the-board, alternatively phonetic?! Yeah, it was really kind of a broken inventory. Really just intended to get us to write a rule with an unusual combination of features. And on the topic of features, I'm trying to think of a "cubic" consonant inventory based on a ...