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by TwistedOne151
05 Oct 2019 17:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Having a little problem with how best to romanize/transcribe the vowels and accent for a conlang. I've got the following vowels: short: /ä ɛ ɪ ʊ/ long: /ɑː æː eː oː iː uː/ closing diphthongs /äɪ̯ ɛɪ̯ ʊɪ̯ äʊ̯ ɛʊ̯/ opening diphthongs /iɛ̯ uɔ̯/ I also have a pitch accent, where a single syllable within...
by TwistedOne151
22 Sep 2019 04:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Are there any plausible contexts for a conditional sound change of unrounding u o > ɯ ɤ?

And while I've seen iw > ju, how plausible is the reverse change ju > iw (and wi > uj)?
And weː joː > wej jow > oːj eːw?
by TwistedOne151
24 Jun 2019 08:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2109
Views: 314405

Re: Yay or Nay?

Edit: to answer the above as not to appear rude, I have the idea of marking aspiration on the vowel, much like Ancient Greek, although I am not sure if that style was still present in Medieval Greek. Also, I don't think having one digraph is too weird if you can justify it as Greek influence. The /...
by TwistedOne151
23 Jun 2019 07:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2109
Views: 314405

Re: Yay or Nay?

So, I have a particular conlang, and wanted to use a variant of the Greek alphabet as its script (mainly thinking of drawing upon late Koine or early Medieval Greek). While the vowels were fairly easy, the large consonant inventory gave me a little trouble. But then, searching about, I came across t...
by TwistedOne151
15 Oct 2018 00:49
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So, I'm looking at valency-increasing operations, and the general example is the causative (which seems to cover well most intransitive-transitive pairs). Applied to an intransitive verb, it adds an agent and turns the former subject into the patient: "the chair broke" > "I broke the chair," "the ba...
by TwistedOne151
27 Aug 2018 00:27
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

For a language with monophthong vowel inventory of short and long /a(ː) ə(ː) ɚ(ː) i(ː) u(ː)/ (compare Yurok for plausibility of the rhotic vowel in the inventory), and with diphthongs, all closing, at least /ai əi ui au əu iu/ (falling diphthongs [ai̯ əi̯ ui̯ au̯ əu̯ iu̯]), how plausible are closing...
by TwistedOne151
18 Jul 2018 20:24
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So, I have geminate voiced fricatives, and want to remove them by merging them with existing sounds while preserving their length (i.e. no degemination /vː zː ʒː/ > /v z ʒ/). Which fortition process seems more plausible: 1. "hardening" to the corresponding plosive/affricate: /vː zː ʒː/ > /bː d͡zː d͡...
by TwistedOne151
07 Aug 2017 02:33
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4415
Views: 922135

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does anyone know of any sources with info on the historic sound changes in Romani (from, say, Proto-Indo-Aryan or Middle Indo-Aryan)?
by TwistedOne151
10 Jul 2017 06:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So I've got a language with the following vowel system: Short: /a e ə o i ɨ u/ Long: /aː eː əː oː iː ɨː uː/ Diphthongs: /ai aɨ au ei əɨ ou oi ui/ And there is also a pitch accent similar to Ancient Greek, with high pitch marking the accented mora; thus, a long vowel or diphthong with the accent may ...
by TwistedOne151
27 Jun 2017 01:46
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4415
Views: 922135

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

My understanding is that in Standard German (under the most recent spelling reform), the rules for s and ß word-internally between vowels, vis-a-vis voiceless and voiced [z], and the doubling of consonants as indicator of vowel length, is: for voiceless , ß after a long vowel and ss after a short vo...
by TwistedOne151
22 Jun 2017 22:27
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Omzinesý wrote:Wouldn't <c'> be logical for /ts'/.
Yes, it would. Or, perhaps I could go the other direction and replace <č ć č' ć'> with <tš tś tš' tś'> for /ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ ʈ͡ʂʼ t͡ɕʼ/?
by TwistedOne151
22 Jun 2017 13:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Given the following consonant inventory, does the romanization I have (in the angle brackets) seem alright? Nasals: /m n/ <m n> Stops: voiced: /b d g/ <b d g> voiceless: /p t k ʔ/ <p t k '> ejective: /tʼ kʼ qʼ/ <t' k' q'> Affricates: voiceless: /t͡ɬ ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ q͡χ/<tl č ć qh> ejective: /t͡sʼ t͡ɬʼ ʈ͡ʂʼ ...
by TwistedOne151
22 Jun 2017 12:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Tonogenesis
Replies: 16
Views: 2190

Re: Tonogenesis

If you want a good look at how systems like these can develop then the Wikipedia article on the four tones of Middle Chinese is great, it has an absolutely massive table of their varying outcomes in the different Sinitic topolects. Yeah, I looked at that table, along with the comparisons of the for...
by TwistedOne151
04 Jan 2017 01:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Considering languages with a word (stress or pitch) accent which isn't fixed (e.g. Hungarian, Polish, Armenian), nor placed by a predictable rule, (e.g. Latin, Hindustani), but instead a contrastive property of specific words (e.g. English, Spanish, Russian, Standard Japanese, etc.), we have some (l...
by TwistedOne151
10 Nov 2016 16:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

From what I've read, demonstratives are one of those categories (like interrogatives), which only derive from other demonstratives (and not content words like nouns or verbs), mostly with reinforcement (like Romance forms from ecce + demonstrative). And I've seen a number of examples of how language...
by TwistedOne151
31 Oct 2016 09:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Denasalization of nasal vowels
Replies: 4
Views: 1317

Re: Denasalization of nasal vowels

Thank you for your time and effort in replying, Creyeditor. Just some of my thoughts: This looks all nice [:)] You might want to think about an uvular nasal for nasalized low vowel since e.g. in German there is an alternation between low vowels and a uvular approximant. Sure, but then what happens t...
by TwistedOne151
30 Oct 2016 10:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Denasalization of nasal vowels
Replies: 4
Views: 1317

Denasalization of nasal vowels

So, I was looking at how a language might lose phonemic nasal vowels. From what I read, the most common seems to be simple loss of nasality: V[+nas] > V[-nas]. The rest seem to be formation of a nasal consonant coda, like, say, Ṽ > Vŋ (/ŋ/ seems common); or else a mixture of these two, such as forma...
by TwistedOne151
08 Jun 2016 21:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5833
Views: 1386958

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Given a language with contrasting velar and uvular stops and fricatives, which of these sound changes of the fricatives /x χ/ are plausible:
1. chain shift: χ > h, x > χ
2. x > h with χ unaffected?

--The Twisted One
by TwistedOne151
14 Apr 2016 19:23
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4415
Views: 922135

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

The Old High German third person pronouns ër , iẓ , siu (masculine, neuter, feminine) are supposed to be from Proto-Germanic anaphoric pronoun *iz. But the nominative/accusative plurals of these were sie , siu , sio , respectively, in OHG. But the reconstructed nominative plurals for *iz are *īz, *i...
by TwistedOne151
27 Mar 2016 22:43
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4415
Views: 922135

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Anyone know any good tables/charts (particularly online) for the outcomes of consonant palatalization (inclding geminates like /ssj/ and /ccj/ and clusters like /scj/, /ctj/, etc.) in the Romance language family, including Eastern Romance?