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by Ahzoh
24 Apr 2019 18:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: A ridiculous conlang: how to?
Replies: 8
Views: 85

Re: A ridiculous conlang: how to?

well if it's a kitchen sink language, you could have 4,000 phonemes.

If not a kitchen lang, you could still have... 100+ vowels.
by Ahzoh
22 Apr 2019 23:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

cedh wrote:
22 Apr 2019 23:46
Yes. (Although your system is a bit unusual in that you are marking inverse voice on the unexpected agent rather than on the verb, which makes it superficially look a bit like a kind of "pseudo-ergative" case with a slightly odd distribution.)
It's more like an inverse case.
by Ahzoh
22 Apr 2019 23:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

My conlang follows this animacy hierarchy: 1 > 2 > 3/kin > humans > animals > concrete objects > abstract objects Given that, I have a suffix I use to indicate a less animate noun acting on a more animate noun. Would this be an example of direct-inverse marking? a) eeˀwąąʱs-kekăăwt-kuuw skooˀ tiw. 3...
by Ahzoh
19 Apr 2019 14:13
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 11347
Views: 928347

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I made more sentences in Ho'nwaa': Eeˀkiˀkekăăwtkuuw skooˀ tiw. 3>3s-eat-PST man seal /ḛːkḭkekɐːwtkuːw sko̰ː ciw/ The man ate the seal. Eeˀkiˀkekăăwtkuuw tiwsää skooˀ. 3>3s-eat-PST seal-sää* man /ḛːkḭkekɐːwtkuːw ciwɕæː sko̰ː/ The seal ate a man. (*marker indicating less animate entity acting on more...
by Ahzoh
17 Apr 2019 22:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Can you clarify the second half of your post? Are each of those lines supposed to be a distinct morpheme? What's > vs <? And what do you mean by "kinda separate"? It's pretty common to mark who is acting on who in a gloss by indicating it with > or <, like 1>2 (one acting on 2) By separate I mean t...
by Ahzoh
17 Apr 2019 19:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

What would animacy hierarchy look like for polypersonal prefixation if the person markers were kinda separate?

Would it look like this?:
1>1
1>2
1>3

1<2
2>2
2>3

1<3
2<3
3>3
by Ahzoh
17 Apr 2019 19:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

That also looks reasonable, though the bottombspace might be a bit crowded. Perhaps if ɑ was rounded tho. i ɨ u | i̤ ɨ̤ ṳ | ḭ ɨ̰ ṵ e ə o | e̤ ə̤ o̤ | ḛ ə̰ o̰ æ ɐ ɒ | æ̤ ɐ̤ ɒ̤ | æ̰ ɐ̰ ɒ̰ ĩ ɨ̃ ũ | ĩ̤ ɨ̤̃ ṳ̃ | ḭ̃ ɨ̰̃ ṵ̃ ẽ ə̃ õ | ẽ̤ ə̤̃ õ̤ | ḛ̃ ə̰̃ õ̰ æ̃ ɐ̃ ɒ̃ | æ̤̃ ɐ̤̃ ɒ̤̃ | æ̰̃ ɐ̰̃ ɒ̰̃ iː ɨː uː | i̤ː...
by Ahzoh
17 Apr 2019 18:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Ælfwine wrote:
17 Apr 2019 18:28
The vowel space tends to be the most open with "close" vowels, so I'd get rid of schwa at least.
Would you propose the same with a vowel system like this:

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i ɨ u | i̤ ɨ̤ ṳ | ḭ ɨ̰ ṵ
e ə o | e̤ ə̤ o̤ | ḛ ə̰ o̰
æ ɐ ɑ | æ̤ ɐ̤ ɑ̤ | æ̰ ɐ̰ ɑ̰
by Ahzoh
17 Apr 2019 17:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I want to create a language with 100 or more vowels with the vowels as distinguishable from each other as naturalistically possible for such a large system. There is at least creaky vs modal distinction, short vs. long, and nasal vs. oral. I thought of this inventory: i y ɨ ɯ u e ø ə ɤ o æ ɐ ɑ But o...
by Ahzoh
16 Apr 2019 00:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 11347
Views: 928347

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Contrasting so many vowel qualities may be doable in nonnasal modal vowels (though even /ɨ ~ ɯ/ and /ə ~ ɤ/ contrasts are already pretty iffy) Perhaps the difference between /ɨ/ and /ɯ/ and /ə/ and /ɤ/ is that /ɨ ə/ interrupt vowel harmony while /ɯ ɤ/ do not. at the very least enhance the bejesus o...
by Ahzoh
16 Apr 2019 00:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 11347
Views: 928347

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Modal means its phonation is default, as it is for voiced consonants. But you can have nasalized modal voiced vowels and consonants because nasalization is not a type of phonation. Creaky, slack-voiced, murmured, breathy, devoiced, voiceless, and modal are all phonation types.
by Ahzoh
15 Apr 2019 23:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 11347
Views: 928347

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Could you theoretically analyze creaky voice and nasalization as being the surface realizations of underlying consonants? Nasalization as an underlying coda nasal archiphoneme, maybe. Creaky is definitely phonemic. Unless the goal is to have a number of vowels that seems obscenely high? The goal is...
by Ahzoh
15 Apr 2019 21:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 11347
Views: 928347

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I made a nightmare language with over 100 vowels but only 11 consonants. It is called Hööˤñÿăăˤ : /æ æː ɐ ɐː ɑ ɑː e eː ø øː ə əː ɤ ɤː o oː i iː y yː ɨ ɨː ɯ ɯː u uː/ <ä ää ă ăă a aa e ee ö öö ĕ ĕĕ ë ëë o oo i ii ü üü ĭ ĭĭ ï ïï u uu> /æ̃ æ̃ː ɐ̃ ɐ̃ː ɑ̃ ɑ̃ː ẽ ẽː ø̃ ø̃ː ə̃ ə̃ː ɤ̃ ɤ̃ː õ õː ĩ ĩː ỹ ỹː ɨ̃ ɨ̃...
by Ahzoh
15 Apr 2019 07:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Is that what you meant by “literally nothing”? The link had no abstract, so it had no content. Really, just a glorified redirect page. How might it be diachronically or synchronically possible for a morphophonological process to occur where a root ending in a nasal develops a voiced stop of the sam...
by Ahzoh
02 Apr 2019 02:30
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Loss of morphological complexity over time
Replies: 17
Views: 423

Re: Loss of morphological complexity over time

Morphological "complexity" appears to go in an almost cyclical fashion.
by Ahzoh
26 Mar 2019 01:37
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Any ideas what sound changes can lead to this?: /a aː e eː i iː o oː u uː/ > (intermediate?) >/æ æː ɑ ɑː ɛː e eː ɪː i iː ɔː o oː ʊː u uː/ Something not based on syllable stress or heaviness so that I can develop this: Old Takshian > New Takshian iː > əj | uː > əw ɪː > iː | ʊː > uː eː > iː | oː > uː...
by Ahzoh
25 Mar 2019 23:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Any ideas what sound changes can lead to this?: /a aː e eː i iː o oː u uː/ > (intermediate?) >/æ æː ɑ ɑː ɛː e eː ɪː i iː ɔː o oː ʊː u uː/ Something not based on syllable stress or heaviness so that I can develop this: Old Takshian > New Takshian iː > əj | uː > əw ɪː > iː | ʊː > uː eː > iː | oː > uː ...
by Ahzoh
25 Mar 2019 19:24
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I call the meaning expressed by “must” and “be obliged to” as the directive mood, although that also includes imperatives, jussives, and hortatives.
by Ahzoh
20 Mar 2019 20:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14613
Views: 1216220

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

eldin raigmore wrote:
15 Mar 2019 01:57
Look up “Why VSOP is the Ideal Word Order”.
https://philpapers.org/rec/HETTPM
That link literally shows nothing and it makes me sad because I actually wanted to read it.
by Ahzoh
20 Mar 2019 02:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 11347
Views: 928347

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I have words for all of the adjective listed in the Swadesh list in Vrkhazhian, in their verb form and adjective form: maǧub "to be big" > minñaǧub "to become big" > mərǧab- "big" zurr "to be long" > ziñhurr "they become long" > zarzar- "long" huff "to be wide" > hiñhuff "to become wide" > hafhaf- "...