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by Davush
22 Feb 2020 10:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?
Replies: 11
Views: 482

Re: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?

I like this. Historical linguists would probably get headaches trying to classify this - parts of the morphology are quite clearly IE, other parts just as clearly Semitic, etc. - reminds me of the contentions about Etruscan, which some people believe to be related to IE (some even claim that it was...
by Davush
18 Feb 2020 10:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?
Replies: 11
Views: 482

Re: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?

I’m really enjoying this. Sounds like Qutrussan is right at home on Earth. It’s even more fun than the previous iteration. Thanks! I am enjoying the setting [:D] I apologize if this is a stupid question, but is Qutrussan a living language? Good question! I haven't given it much thought (yet), but I...
by Davush
15 Feb 2020 13:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?
Replies: 11
Views: 482

Re: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?

This is very impressive. This inspires me to interject a (con)language isolate with a heavy local substrate somewhere as well. Thanks! The idea is that Qutrussan is a 'mystery' Mesopotamian language of sorts. Whether or not it's actually an isolate is unclear, as parts of it seem reminiscent of IE ...
by Davush
14 Feb 2020 11:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?
Replies: 11
Views: 482

Re: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?

Common Gender Plurals Common gender plurals are perhaps the most complex part of Qutrussan nominal morphology, employing something similar to Semitic-style 'broken' plurals (i.e. templatic morphology). Initially, these plurals (as well as other parts of the morphology) led scholars to believe Qutru...
by Davush
09 Feb 2020 22:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?
Replies: 11
Views: 482

Re: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?

More Background Classical Qutrussan was likely already an archaic form of the language by the time of its standardisation. Several elements can be seen to change over-time, particularly post-10th C when full diacritic marking became established. Nouns Grammar and morphology is still very much a wor...
by Davush
07 Feb 2020 13:11
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?
Replies: 11
Views: 482

Re: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?

I am looking forward to see more examples [:)] Thanks! Phonology and Orthography I won’t spend too long on the phonology, because everybody gets bored with phonological inventories. Diachronic quirks and other interesting features will be discussed in more detail as they appear. Phonology is discus...
by Davush
06 Feb 2020 16:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?
Replies: 11
Views: 482

Qutrussan Revisited: A Tigro-Euphratic Language?

My recent foray into creating a diachronically derived PIE language (Indo-Mesopotamian) has inspired some ideas for Qutrussan. Qutrussan has now been totally reenvisioned, and the new inspiration has allowed me to move closer to what the original idea behind Qutrussan was. Some of you might remember...
by Davush
23 Jan 2020 14:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 534

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

Taking a break from nominals, let's look at some pronouns and the verb 'to be' Nominative Pronouns This section only looks at the nominative/subject pronouns. There will likely also be several other forms as Mesopotamian will have lots of cliticised forms, similar to Anatolian. 1sg: hūk This is clea...
by Davush
22 Jan 2020 13:05
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 534

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

N/M Stems Nearing the end of the various nominal stems...! N stems seem to show a lot of ablaut and stress change. tḗqam~tāqam 'earth, land' This root would more regularly have become tēkan, due to the palato-velar, however these sometimes show a sporadic change to /q/. The uvular may further lower...
by Davush
20 Jan 2020 13:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 534

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

Summary of Sound Changes from PIE > Ancient Mesopotamian So far we have: eh1 > æː we > wæ/wa ye > yæ/ya (Anatolian loses *y before *e) Chain shift: ē > ī ō > ū ei > ē eu > ō e > i in closed syllables Development of epenthetic vowel before certain initial clusters Stops: Voiced and Aspirates > Lenis...
by Davush
18 Jan 2020 18:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 534

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

Very cool! I love IE-langs with archaic features. [:D] Thanks! Some Updates For clarification on classification and divergence from PIE, the development was: -Early PIE (4000BC) --Proto-Anatolo-Mesopotamian (c. 3500BC) - --- Proto/Common Anatolian (c. 3000BC) --- Proto/Ancient Mesopotamian (c. 3000...
by Davush
17 Jan 2020 12:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 534

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

If this consoles you, the conditions for preservation/loss of initial laryngeals are uncertain and this is just one of the possible explanations. As for why *e and *o trigger different developments, this depends on how you reconstruct the difference between *e and *o which is yet another can of wor...
by Davush
16 Jan 2020 19:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 534

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

From what I've read Akkadian's development from Proto-Semitic seems to mirror that of Indo-European languages from PIE. in that most "gutturals" are lost but leave traces in coloring a neighboring vowel. It only has a velar/uvular series (voiceless is inherited, voiced possibly from *r), no pharyng...
by Davush
16 Jan 2020 01:25
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 534

Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

This is an experiment in PIE diachronics and also partially an alt-history. The initial idea was to have an IE language spoken somewhere in Mesopotamia and/or the Arabian Peninsula, with lots of Semitic contact and borrowing. I will develop this idea as I go along. The first stage of this language i...
by Davush
10 Jan 2020 13:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 590

Re: Shiruitoan

Aspect Markers and Other Stuff Hirovuruan has yet again changed, and now likely has a vowel system of /a i u ɨ/ <a i o u>. I am only going to focus on Shiruitoan for this post however. Default word order is either VSO or VOS. SVO and OVS are also common when the focus marker 'ko' is used. Verbs in ...
by Davush
06 Jan 2020 12:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 590

Re: Shiruitoan

This is all really interesting and looks much more naturalistic than most minimalist phonologies. The level of phonological depth is very impressive. Thanks! I've probably made it sound far more complicated than it needs to be, and pitch accent isn't settled yet, so hopefully I'll have a more conci...
by Davush
03 Jan 2020 13:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 590

Re: Shiruitoan

Diachronics and Sister Language(s) I've decided to make a sister-language alongside Shiruitoan. I don't usually pay much attention to diachronics, but the relatively simple syllable structure means there (hopefully) won't be too much sound-change induced chaos that more inflecting languages seem to...
by Davush
31 Dec 2019 13:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 590

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

MiniLang now has a name (or rather, several)! It is variously known as Ssírúito / Ssírúiko / Ssíko . Ssírúi itself means something like 'familiar speech', with -to being a 1pl. exclusive possessive, and -ko inclusive. Therefore between speakers it is known as Ssírúiko, or simply Ssíko (Our Speech), ...
by Davush
30 Dec 2019 13:56
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 590

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

Orthography Given that an orthography based on underlying forms would not give much visual clue to how words are actually spoken, MiniLang's orthography is kind of a 'halfway' house in that it's not fully phonemic, but nor does it represent every single possible allophone distinctly. Phoneme : Real...
by Davush
29 Dec 2019 20:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 590

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

I have wanted to make a language with a detailed but original tonal/pitch accent system for a long time, but it always seemed like a large undertaking if I didn't want to just recreate Japanese/Bantu/Chinese languages. This section is a bit abstract, but I'm quite happy with it and hopefully followi...