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by Davush
23 Jan 2020 14:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

Taking a break from nominals, let's look at some pronouns and the verb 'to be' Nominative Pronouns This section only looks at the nominative/subject pronouns. There will likely also be several other forms as Mesopotamian will have lots of cliticised forms, similar to Anatolian. 1sg: hūk This is clea...
by Davush
22 Jan 2020 13:05
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

N/M Stems Nearing the end of the various nominal stems...! N stems seem to show a lot of ablaut and stress change. tḗqam~tāqam 'earth, land' This root would more regularly have become tēkan, due to the palato-velar, however these sometimes show a sporadic change to /q/. The uvular may further lower...
by Davush
20 Jan 2020 13:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

Summary of Sound Changes from PIE > Ancient Mesopotamian So far we have: eh1 > æː we > wæ/wa ye > yæ/ya (Anatolian loses *y before *e) Chain shift: ē > ī ō > ū ei > ē eu > ō e > i in closed syllables Development of epenthetic vowel before certain initial clusters Stops: Voiced and Aspirates > Lenis...
by Davush
18 Jan 2020 18:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

Very cool! I love IE-langs with archaic features. [:D] Thanks! Some Updates For clarification on classification and divergence from PIE, the development was: -Early PIE (4000BC) --Proto-Anatolo-Mesopotamian (c. 3500BC) - --- Proto/Common Anatolian (c. 3000BC) --- Proto/Ancient Mesopotamian (c. 3000...
by Davush
17 Jan 2020 12:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

If this consoles you, the conditions for preservation/loss of initial laryngeals are uncertain and this is just one of the possible explanations. As for why *e and *o trigger different developments, this depends on how you reconstruct the difference between *e and *o which is yet another can of wor...
by Davush
16 Jan 2020 19:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

From what I've read Akkadian's development from Proto-Semitic seems to mirror that of Indo-European languages from PIE. in that most "gutturals" are lost but leave traces in coloring a neighboring vowel. It only has a velar/uvular series (voiceless is inherited, voiced possibly from *r), no pharyng...
by Davush
16 Jan 2020 01:25
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Proto-(Indo)-Mesopotamian (IE diachronic lang)

This is an experiment in PIE diachronics and also partially an alt-history. The initial idea was to have an IE language spoken somewhere in Mesopotamia and/or the Arabian Peninsula, with lots of Semitic contact and borrowing. I will develop this idea as I go along. The first stage of this language i...
by Davush
10 Jan 2020 13:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Shiruitoan

Aspect Markers and Other Stuff Hirovuruan has yet again changed, and now likely has a vowel system of /a i u ɨ/ <a i o u>. I am only going to focus on Shiruitoan for this post however. Default word order is either VSO or VOS. SVO and OVS are also common when the focus marker 'ko' is used. Verbs in ...
by Davush
06 Jan 2020 12:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Shiruitoan

This is all really interesting and looks much more naturalistic than most minimalist phonologies. The level of phonological depth is very impressive. Thanks! I've probably made it sound far more complicated than it needs to be, and pitch accent isn't settled yet, so hopefully I'll have a more conci...
by Davush
03 Jan 2020 13:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Shiruitoan

Diachronics and Sister Language(s) I've decided to make a sister-language alongside Shiruitoan. I don't usually pay much attention to diachronics, but the relatively simple syllable structure means there (hopefully) won't be too much sound-change induced chaos that more inflecting languages seem to...
by Davush
31 Dec 2019 13:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

MiniLang now has a name (or rather, several)! It is variously known as Ssírúito / Ssírúiko / Ssíko . Ssírúi itself means something like 'familiar speech', with -to being a 1pl. exclusive possessive, and -ko inclusive. Therefore between speakers it is known as Ssírúiko, or simply Ssíko (Our Speech), ...
by Davush
30 Dec 2019 13:56
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

Orthography Given that an orthography based on underlying forms would not give much visual clue to how words are actually spoken, MiniLang's orthography is kind of a 'halfway' house in that it's not fully phonemic, but nor does it represent every single possible allophone distinctly. Phoneme : Real...
by Davush
29 Dec 2019 20:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

I have wanted to make a language with a detailed but original tonal/pitch accent system for a long time, but it always seemed like a large undertaking if I didn't want to just recreate Japanese/Bantu/Chinese languages. This section is a bit abstract, but I'm quite happy with it and hopefully followi...
by Davush
28 Dec 2019 20:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

Mora Madness The mora ( μ ) is a smaller and more important unit of analysis than the syllable in M for determining pitch-accent and other morpho-phonological processes. (Note that the pitch-accent system from the previous post will likely be overhauled, and so pitch-accent marking here is only par...
by Davush
24 Dec 2019 12:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

Pitch Accent Pitch accent is a badly defined term, but I use it here to mean several things usually associated with "pitch accent": Syllables are all pronounced with equal weight, that is to say, vowels do not reduce and syllable prominence is more associated with pitch than loudness/reduction/leng...
by Davush
23 Dec 2019 13:56
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: The Nomadic Language Family
Replies: 24
Views: 513

Re: The Nomadic Language Family

This is great!

I've been interested in small phonologies recently, and I love how your sound changes from such a small phonology lead to what will be (presumably) very different daughter-langs. (Also it makes my recent 'minimalist' language seem not-so-minimal in comparison... [:D] )
by Davush
23 Dec 2019 12:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Re: Unnamed Minimalist Lang

(Now obsolete. See further post on Mora.)
by Davush
23 Dec 2019 00:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Shiruitoan
Replies: 11
Views: 545

Shiruitoan

This language is partly an experiment in a 'minimalist' phonology. It is inspired by Austronesian and Japonic languages, as well as some North American influences, although it is not designed to be too similar to any of them. I will call this language 'M' for now. The Phonology The phonology of M is...
by Davush
19 Dec 2019 17:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: CONLANG RELAY XI
Replies: 130
Views: 3552

Re: CONLANG RELAY XI

Torch passed!
by Davush
18 Dec 2019 10:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: CONLANG RELAY XI
Replies: 130
Views: 3552

Re: CONLANG RELAY XI

Running a bit late sorry - I hope to pass the torch on later today or tomorrow some time (providing nothing comes up).