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by Ælfwine
27 Jan 2020 00:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5943
Views: 1405080

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I forget who said this, but generally languages only deal with the mess afterwards caused by sound change. It's reasonable to assume that any loss of tone would create lots of homophones, which would be dealt with the speakers of the language (for example, compounding like in Chinese.)
by Ælfwine
31 Dec 2019 05:45
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4465
Views: 933061

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Beninca reports: a > aw before nasals aw > o before m aw > o before nasal followed by syllable break, with the palatal nasal analysed as /nj/ Then in Puter, "awN > EN", where 'E' is epsilon, but 'N' is just 'N'; I assume she means the class of nasals So, from 'annu', we get Vallader and Sursilvan /...
by Ælfwine
31 Dec 2019 05:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5943
Views: 1405080

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

No, that is relevant! If the theory is that Northern Romance (Gallo- and Rhaeto-Romance, whatever you call that group) is the result of Celtic influence, then the fact that Friulian is RR is a problem, because I don't know if that was ever Celtic. But if Friulian is a much later migration from a kn...
by Ælfwine
30 Dec 2019 22:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5943
Views: 1405080

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

The same change occurs in Rhaeto-Romance; but that family also has had Germanic influence, and quite possibly Celtic as well, early on (do we know when Celtic died out in Noricum, etc?). Legend has it Odoacer invited those Romans from Noricum to settle down in Friulia. If true, this would be late 5...
by Ælfwine
29 Dec 2019 19:42
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5943
Views: 1405080

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Yea, Irish has had a Germanic-like initial stress (complete with reduction and loss of unstressed vowels) before, during and after the period it developed initial mutations. All you need for initial mutations is for word-medial sound changes to apply to phrases instead of individual words. This pro...
by Ælfwine
29 Dec 2019 15:51
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4465
Views: 933061

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does anyone know the origin of the diphthong in Romansch words like chaun < canem?

Some sort of umlaut or metathesis like *canu > chanu > chaun (with a portuguese reanalyzation?)
by Ælfwine
28 Dec 2019 07:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5943
Views: 1405080

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Given the contact between the North Germanic and Celtic languages, does it seem probable to make a North Germanic language with initial consonant mutation? Or is this too unlikely given that it was mostly North Germanic languages that influenced the Celtic ones? I have tried this. I agree that Old ...
by Ælfwine
26 Dec 2019 23:27
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5943
Views: 1405080

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Given the contact between the North Germanic and Celtic languages, does it seem probable to make a North Germanic language with initial consonant mutation? Or is this too unlikely given that it was mostly North Germanic languages that influenced the Celtic ones? I have tried this. I agree that Old ...
by Ælfwine
23 Dec 2019 21:56
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lexember 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 5564

Re: Lexember 2019

Gotisch pomfrits/помфритс ['poːmˌfrits]
Etym: French pomme + frittes
1. French fries
by Ælfwine
20 Dec 2019 21:57
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary
Replies: 16
Views: 446

Re: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary

Latest development of word-final vowels: 1) All words get a final vowel, which also happens in "Italian" and Romanian. The exact values of the epenthetic vowels differ, but they are mostly later elided anyway in 2) and 3). ∅ → V /_# Lat amas → ámasi → ámsi 'you love' Lat casis → cásese → cásse 'hou...
by Ælfwine
20 Dec 2019 02:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lexember 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 5564

Re: Lexember 2019

Gotisch babuschke/бабушкъ ['baː.buʃ.kə]
Etym: Russian бабушка feminine sg.
1. grandmother
2. (derogatory) An older woman
by Ælfwine
13 Dec 2019 21:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 59
Views: 5437

Re: Goþesch Razde

Clitic Object Pronouns Clitic object pronouns agree for the gender and number of the object pronoun. In simple phrases without objects, the neuter gender is default. They typically appear after a verb, cliticizing to their host. In embedded clauses, they come before the verb. The Gothic clitic obje...
by Ælfwine
12 Dec 2019 18:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lexember 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 5564

Re: Lexember 2019

Day: ??

Pelsodian:
zurnade (Istriot: zurnada, Venetian: zornada, Friulian: zornade)
Plural: zurnadi
"day"
Ultimately from Medieval Latin diurnata, (“a day's work, a day's journey, a fixed day, a day”), from Latin diurnus (“daily”).

(just testing something)
by Ælfwine
10 Dec 2019 08:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lexember 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 5564

Re: Lexember 2019

:con: :got: Gotische/Gothish

musch/муш ['muʃ] (n.) bridegroom
Etymology: From Russian муж "husband"

The male counterpart to schnos (see above.)
by Ælfwine
09 Dec 2019 06:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lexember 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 5564

Re: Lexember 2019

Catchup day whatever Gotische schnos ['Sno:s] Etym: PGmc *snuzō feminine sg. 1. bride 2. daughter-in-law Originally meaning "daughter-in-law," the conversion of meaning to "bride" underlines the practice of child marriage in Islamic societies, including that of the Ottoman Empire to which the Crimea...
by Ælfwine
02 Dec 2019 14:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lexember 2019
Replies: 359
Views: 5564

Re: Lexember 2019

:con: :got: Gotesch Razde

башъ [ˈpaː.ʃə] from Ottoman Turkish paşa
noun
1.) a governor
2.) a military leader; a commander
by Ælfwine
02 Dec 2019 14:06
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4465
Views: 933061

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

For a while I was considering eliminating the case system of my Gothic conlang, but what was preventing me was the existence of final -s in many words in the corpus (fers "man," bars "beard" ies "he") but not in others (plut "blood," alt "old," tag "day"). However, it was suggested to me that the -s...
by Ælfwine
02 Dec 2019 02:45
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 4465
Views: 933061

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

In what positions and under what conditions did French keep morphological nominative -s, even after it lost cases? C.f. French fils.
by Ælfwine
02 Dec 2019 00:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 79
Views: 21999

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread - A Romlang Idea

This is an idea of a Romlang. Usually they are very boring so to take those ideas further I should find up much more, but this a notepad. s => ʃ k [+front] => s g [+ front] => ʒ => z j => ʒ => z I'm still considering what will happen with /s/ in coda positions. Maybe it is /ʃ/ which sounds very Ger...
by Ælfwine
01 Dec 2019 23:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 79
Views: 21999

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread - A Romlang Idea

This is an idea of a Romlang. Usually they are very boring so to take those ideas further I should find up much more, but this a notepad. s => ʃ k [+front] => s g [+ front] => ʒ => z j => ʒ => z I'm still considering what will happen with /s/ in coda positions. Maybe it is /ʃ/ which sounds very Ger...