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by Ælfwine
18 Jul 2019 19:32
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 48
Views: 2128

Re: Goþesch Razde

Ultimately with the strong verbs I decided to merge the subjunctive with the infinitive. The only exception is a handful of auxiliary verbs like wart "to be." This doesn't change much, except that I decided against the importation of the weak preterite endings into strong verbs, as most of them now ...
by Ælfwine
14 Jul 2019 16:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 48
Views: 2128

Re: Goþesch Razde

Neat. Do the cognates of eleven and twelve still exist in any sense in the language, like if say twelve became "a dozen", or something like that? Maybe with some semantic drift over the centuries? The only word for twelve other than tinetue is "duzene," ['tu.zə.nə] which is a fairly ubiquitous loan...
by Ælfwine
13 Jul 2019 07:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden
Replies: 14
Views: 446

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

I was also about to remark what Aszev said about preaspiration. Supposedly its quite a common areal feature that made its way to even Scottish Gaelic. Looks good nonetheless. Edit: Yes, the rules differ, but how many non-compound Swedish words with more than two syllables, and initial stress there r...
by Ælfwine
13 Jul 2019 06:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 48
Views: 2128

Re: Goþesch Razde

Counting! Janko, where are you when I need you? I had a lot of fun with this. Crimean Gothic numbers are quite unusual and point to strong Turkish and/or Iranian influence on their construction. Compare for example Turkish onbir (ten-one) = eleven; oniki (ten-two) = twelve; etc. ите ite [ˈi.tə] one ...
by Ælfwine
07 Jul 2019 19:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14853
Views: 1278621

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

My Crimean Gothic eliminates /h/ everywhere, except where germinates it before /j/, when then it lost and subsequently degeminated. You could also easily fortify it to /x/ (which is what I did, though arguably it was always /x/).
by Ælfwine
07 Jul 2019 14:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14853
Views: 1278621

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I had an idea about a Romance language with a robust case system, while still being descended from Vulgar Latin, and I've come up with this: 1. Existing Romance languages have either nominative - accusative (Old French, Old Occitan) or nominative/accusative - genitive/dative (Romanian). 2. The diff...
by Ælfwine
04 Jul 2019 04:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 48
Views: 2128

Re: Goþesch Razde

I'm somewhat tempted to split this project into two: one thread for "Crimean Gothic," which is my reconstruction of the language of the same name, another one for "Gothish" which is less of a reconstruction and more of a real "conlang." I want to do something with all those Cj clusters dangnabbit. R...
by Ælfwine
27 Jun 2019 18:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 48
Views: 2128

Re: Goþesch Razde

Guden dach! Have you now introduced rounded front vowels into your lang or is this some descendant of what you developed the first? It would be simpler if you make another thread and just cross-link it with this one, if they are two langs. I am playing around with front rounded vowels still. I inclu...
by Ælfwine
27 Jun 2019 04:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14853
Views: 1278621

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

What is the construction (both the syntax and the pronoun) called when a "redundant" pronoun is reduplicated/introduced in the same clause? Example from my language: Þe unts jes best mis. "The dog he bit me." ART.M dog-NOM.S 3SG.M bite-PRET.1.S 1SG.M A resumptive pronoun. Okay, I wasn't sure. Thank...
by Ælfwine
27 Jun 2019 03:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14853
Views: 1278621

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

What is the construction (both the syntax and the pronoun) called when a "redundant" pronoun is reduplicated/introduced in the same clause?

Example from my language:

Þe unts jes best mis.
"The dog he bit me."
ART.M dog-NOM.S 3SG.M bite-PRET.1.S 1SG.M
by Ælfwine
26 Jun 2019 19:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 48
Views: 2128

Re: Goþesch Razde

I thought I'd make an update on this, instead of twiddling my thumbs. I've finally got around to work with Gothish verbs, although I am still dreading typing everything out. Anyway, the Gothish verb shows several differences from the Proto-Germanic verb. Notably, the disyllabic preterite endings fro...
by Ælfwine
24 Jun 2019 00:52
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2928
Views: 289179

Re: Yay or Nay?

Ah, if they switched to Cyrillic only in the 20th century, then there's not reason at all to use izhitsa. They would have used the Gothic alphabet for the longest time. Supposedly, we have reports of its continued use among the Goths until the 17th century, and lo and behold a few years back we fou...
by Ælfwine
19 Jun 2019 23:02
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: What have you been reading lately? (linguistic ed.)
Replies: 41
Views: 51698

Re: What have you been reading lately? (linguistic ed.)

I've just bought The Oxford Gothic Grammar . Even with the discount I had, it wasn't cheap, but I am hoping it'll be worth it. Supposedly, it is the most comprehensive book on the language since the 19th century, and includes very recent findings on the language. I'm hoping it'll help out with my Ge...
by Ælfwine
14 Jun 2019 21:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2928
Views: 289179

Re: Yay or Nay?

In that context, if the Goths switch to Cyrillic anytime, you might use the letter izhitsa, ѵ, to represent former /y/ as it was the letters function in Greek loanwords to Slavic (the existence of izhitsa is one of the clues that Greek still had /y/ in the 800's when the glagolitic and the cyrillic...
by Ælfwine
14 Jun 2019 15:37
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2928
Views: 289179

Re: Yay or Nay?

In Greek, /y/ > /i/ happened in the 11th century, and that's pretty securely dated. Good to know. So the development until the 6th century or so is the same as Biblical Gothic, when <iu> monophthongizes to /y/. And then in the 11th century, during the same time as Greek it derounds to /i/. Also, I ...
by Ælfwine
14 Jun 2019 03:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 48
Views: 2128

Re: Goþesch Razde

So, I am a in a rut here. There are two ways i can take this conlang, but I am undecided how I want to proceed. The first route is the route I am currently taking here, faithfully reconstructing Crimean Gothic according to scholarly consensus rather than my own personal interpretation and taste. Th...
by Ælfwine
12 Jun 2019 23:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2928
Views: 289179

Re: Yay or Nay?

When did the Crimean Tatars arrive in Crimea? Probably along with the Golden Horde, so 13th century. The likelihood of *iu > /y/ and *eu > /ø/ would then depend on whether these diphtongs were preserved until the Tatars came. If they were monophthongized much earlier, then the likelihood of such a ...
by Ælfwine
12 Jun 2019 14:58
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2928
Views: 289179

Re: Yay or Nay?

Zekoslav wrote:
12 Jun 2019 10:12
When did the Crimean Tatars arrive in Crimea?

Probably along with the Golden Horde, so 13th century.
by Ælfwine
12 Jun 2019 02:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2928
Views: 289179

Re: Yay or Nay?

Yay or Nay: Crimean Gothic shall have front rounded vowels /ø/ and /y/ from PGmc *eu and *iu respectively. I'm not sold on having front rounded vowels. Greek and Slavic influence suggests against them, but Crimean Tatar suggests for it. There is also no evidence for front rounded vowels in the corpu...
by Ælfwine
30 May 2019 00:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Aelf's Scratchpad
Replies: 24
Views: 4242

Re: Aelf's Scratchpad

Thought I'd revive this thread. Quick go at a branch of Semitic spoken in Georgia. Exact sound correspondences from PS are done; this might be revised in the future though. *a → /a~ɑ/ ა *i → /i/ თ *u → /u/ უ *ā → /a~ɑ/ ა *ī → /i/ თ *ū → /u/ უ *ay → /ɛː/ ე *aw → /ɔː/ ო *b → /b/ ბ *d → /d/ დ *ḏ → /z/ ...