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by Ælfwine
15 Aug 2019 22:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Zeko-Romance development thread
Replies: 8
Views: 132

Re: Zeko-Romance development thread

(this is in fact a problem with a Pontic Romance language: it would have to be settled from an area which preserves word-final /s/). The loss of /s/ was an innovation, not an archaism. A significantly conservative dialect could retain /s/, even if it is geographically where one might find plurals w...
by Ælfwine
14 Aug 2019 18:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

yangfiretiger121 wrote:
14 Aug 2019 18:02
Is [e, i, o, ø, ɶ, ɔ, ɯ] or [a~æ, ɑ, e, o, ø, u, y] the more natural inventory?
I would say the latter, if only because all spaces are equally distributed by phonemes.
by Ælfwine
12 Aug 2019 20:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Do we know when Crimean Greek lost it's cases? Unless it had happened already in Roman times, it wouldn't be able to influence my language. If I decide to place my language in Crimea, then the story would go that for some reason Rome got angry at the Kingdom of Cimmerian Bosporus and decided to ann...
by Ælfwine
12 Aug 2019 16:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

That's a shame - it's not a competition! You can always just take things a different way from Dewrad, as it seemed you were doing. You are right, but with the location in mind there is actually very little I would have done differently from Dewrad. What I started to do differently is look at databa...
by Ælfwine
11 Aug 2019 23:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

That's a shame - it's not a competition! You can always just take things a different way from Dewrad, as it seemed you were doing. You are right, but with the location in mind there is actually very little I would have done differently from Dewrad. What I started to do differently is look at databa...
by Ælfwine
11 Aug 2019 19:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

All this talking about romlangs is making me want to go back to mine...although I don't think I'll continue in Pannonia, as I do not see how I can create a conlang there without ripping off the brilliance of Dravian . A few other locations I've looked at include a sister of Vegliot and Istriot on th...
by Ælfwine
09 Aug 2019 21:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Altlang Ideas Discussion
Replies: 65
Views: 9438

Re: Altlang Ideas Discussion

I'm necroing this thread, as I have something very interesting I found in researching Crimean Gothic for my own conlang to add here, so I hope it will inspire discussion. Supposedly, there is evidence that after William the Bastard conquered England, a small group of Englishmen fled to Constantinopl...
by Ælfwine
08 Aug 2019 20:57
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm trying to determine the phonemic status of [ə] in my language, i.e. whether it counts as a real phoneme (like in German, Dutch, English) or as a variant of some other phoneme (like Norwegian). It's debatable - and indeed debated - whether it's a phoneme in English. Indeed, in some dialects (wit...
by Ælfwine
08 Aug 2019 05:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm trying to determine the phonemic status of [ə] in my language, i.e. whether it counts as a real phoneme (like in German, Dutch, English) or as a variant of some other phoneme (like Norwegian). So far, the phoneme only occurs in unstressed syllables. While loanwords are introducing other vowels i...
by Ælfwine
02 Aug 2019 05:06
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 49
Views: 2515

Re: Goþesch Razde

Recently, I have been rethinking the history and culture behind my language to give Crimean Gothic some background. I haven't thought it out much in detail, but the major POD is during the ninth century. In this alternate history, Saint John of Gothia manages to successfully expel the Khazars and la...
by Ælfwine
28 Jul 2019 21:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

While a native romance language to Crimea wouldn't be too implausible, I think the more plausible idea would be to derive it from 13th and 14th century Ligurian, as the Genoese had trading outposts in the Crimea for some time. However, I reckon you want something different from that. Alternatively, ...
by Ælfwine
25 Jul 2019 05:32
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Thanks for the help, guys. At one time, Sjialfa had voiceless rhotic, lateral, palatal, and palatal lateral flaps [ɾ̥, ɺ̥, c̆, ʎ̮̊]. Are the changes to the rhotic, lateral, and palatal lateral ones stated below plausible? {ɾ̥ ɺ̥ → ɬ → ʎ̝̊ ()} [ʎ̮̊ → ʎ̝̊ () → ʟ̝ ()] The first is fairly plausible....
by Ælfwine
18 Jul 2019 20:32
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 49
Views: 2515

Re: Goþesch Razde

Ultimately with the strong verbs I decided to merge the subjunctive with the infinitive. The only exception is a handful of auxiliary verbs like wart "to be." This doesn't change much, except that I decided against the importation of the weak preterite endings into strong verbs, as most of them now ...
by Ælfwine
14 Jul 2019 17:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 49
Views: 2515

Re: Goþesch Razde

Neat. Do the cognates of eleven and twelve still exist in any sense in the language, like if say twelve became "a dozen", or something like that? Maybe with some semantic drift over the centuries? The only word for twelve other than tinetue is "duzene," ['tu.zə.nə] which is a fairly ubiquitous loan...
by Ælfwine
13 Jul 2019 08:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden
Replies: 21
Views: 814

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

I was also about to remark what Aszev said about preaspiration. Supposedly its quite a common areal feature that made its way to even Scottish Gaelic. Looks good nonetheless. Edit: Yes, the rules differ, but how many non-compound Swedish words with more than two syllables, and initial stress there r...
by Ælfwine
13 Jul 2019 07:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 49
Views: 2515

Re: Goþesch Razde

Counting! Janko, where are you when I need you? I had a lot of fun with this. Crimean Gothic numbers are quite unusual and point to strong Turkish and/or Iranian influence on their construction. Compare for example Turkish onbir (ten-one) = eleven; oniki (ten-two) = twelve; etc. ите ite [ˈi.tə] one ...
by Ælfwine
07 Jul 2019 20:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

My Crimean Gothic eliminates /h/ everywhere, except where germinates it before /j/, when then it lost and subsequently degeminated. You could also easily fortify it to /x/ (which is what I did, though arguably it was always /x/).
by Ælfwine
07 Jul 2019 15:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297531

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I had an idea about a Romance language with a robust case system, while still being descended from Vulgar Latin, and I've come up with this: 1. Existing Romance languages have either nominative - accusative (Old French, Old Occitan) or nominative/accusative - genitive/dative (Romanian). 2. The diff...
by Ælfwine
04 Jul 2019 05:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 49
Views: 2515

Re: Goþesch Razde

I'm somewhat tempted to split this project into two: one thread for "Crimean Gothic," which is my reconstruction of the language of the same name, another one for "Gothish" which is less of a reconstruction and more of a real "conlang." I want to do something with all those Cj clusters dangnabbit. R...
by Ælfwine
27 Jun 2019 19:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 49
Views: 2515

Re: Goþesch Razde

Guden dach! Have you now introduced rounded front vowels into your lang or is this some descendant of what you developed the first? It would be simpler if you make another thread and just cross-link it with this one, if they are two langs. I am playing around with front rounded vowels still. I inclu...