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by DV82LECM
04 Dec 2019 02:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

I did not know that they were talking about the Coronado islands, somewhere I have not done much research in and do not know where are geographically. Would you be willing to have me back in the project? I am sorry for being a fair weather conlanger. I do not tend to deal with indirect, implied hum...
by DV82LECM
04 Dec 2019 00:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

Man, the most interesting stuff on this thread happens while I’m asleep. Salmon, you make a strong point. To preserve the Island/Mainland distinction, I’ll move them up to the Santa Catalina and San Clemente islands, which were historically and currently inhabited. A second group will come from the...
by DV82LECM
03 Dec 2019 21:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

EDIT: Doing a little MORE research, I forgot a major facet of San Diego bay (God, I am forgetting my home). Right to the northwest -- really west -- of Coronado Island, there is a horn that protrudes Southwest to a point. My thinking is that Coronado Island can be where they landed, for the sake of...
by DV82LECM
03 Dec 2019 15:05
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

Then Mainland Coronado is (?): /m n/ /p t k/ /f v h/ /w ɾ j/ /i u a/ /i: u: a:/ Looks just about like it. Look at how symmetrical it is! Oh, alright! LOL. EDIT: Doing a little MORE research, I forgot a major facet of San Diego bay (God, I am forgetting my home). Right to the northwest -- really wes...
by DV82LECM
03 Dec 2019 06:52
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

EDIT: I just saw this. The main thing I wanted to do with Mainland was the loss of the labial plosives. In what you had, you have a lot of labial representation: /m p b f v w/. (You mentioned everything perfectly, except the sound changes getting rid of /p/; becomes /f/, initially, and /w/, mediall...
by DV82LECM
02 Dec 2019 13:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

I'm STILL shocked to hell you took my idea and ran with it, but you missed one minor detail, unless I'm mistaken: Proto-Polynesian had *s. That’s true, but I’m not going from Proto-Polynesian. I’m going from Proto- Eastern -Polynesian, and /s/ merged with /h/ in Eastern-Polynesian. In none of my re...
by DV82LECM
02 Dec 2019 03:39
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

Shifts from Proto-Eastern-Polynesian to Old Coronado, ~1300 •/p/ > /p/, /b/ intervocalically •/t/ > /t/, /d/ intervocalically •/k/ > /k/, /ʔ/ intervocalically •/ʔ/ > /h/ •/m/ > /m/ •/n/ > /n/ •/ŋ/ > /n/ •/w/ > /v/ •/f/ > /f/ •/l/ > /ɾ/ •/h/ > /h/ •/a/ > /a/ •/a.a/ > /a:/ •/i/ > /i/ •/i.i/ > /i:/ •/...
by DV82LECM
01 Dec 2019 05:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

Stress is penultimate in Hawaiian, so you could go with that. As for how to form new initial phonemes, Hawaiian is actually making /a/ quite lax. I suggest initial /i e/ lax to [ɪ], /u o/ lax to [ʊ], and /a/ lax to [ɐ]. Inevitably, all lax to [ə], gradually...then nullify, altogether. Loss of */h/ m...
by DV82LECM
01 Dec 2019 02:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

How, exactly, did [b d ʔ] become word-initial? As for where they land, I would have them land on Coronado Island, off of San Diego. (I'm from there, so I'm biased.) But you can ALSO make the word [koɾonado] in your language. It could be the precolonial, native word for the island -- completely irres...
by DV82LECM
30 Nov 2019 15:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Californian Polynesian
Replies: 42
Views: 563

Re: Californian Polynesian

/m n/ /p b t d k ʔ/ /f v/ /ɾ/ /w j/ /i u e o a/ /i: u: a:/ I think this is right. Your directions almost melted my brain. LOL. As for California, it depends upon where they landed; as much, they would either be the first or second farthest travelled Polynesian people, right behind the Rapa Nui. So, ...
by DV82LECM
26 Nov 2019 23:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Miscellaneous fun facts about your conlang to share and know
Replies: 30
Views: 657

Re: Miscellaneous fun facts about your conlang to share and know

Yatton has ONLY two roots for cardinal directions: East and West.

"Where the sun sets" and "where it rises."
by DV82LECM
10 Nov 2019 15:25
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eathut - 7 phonemes
Replies: 33
Views: 2929

Re: Eathut - 7 phonemes

https://conworkshop.com/view_language.php?l=CVC I simplified the shit out of this. I was just making it too complicated...so I went back to the original recipe. However, I kept a few elements that I liked and scrapped ones that could no longer work. Most of the information on the upper half of the s...
by DV82LECM
04 Oct 2019 06:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Updated Hiding Waters (née Feayran) Grammar
Replies: 7
Views: 490

Re: Updated Hiding Waters (née Feayran) Grammar

Ayana vuwá thuoivazhe...

I utterly adored Feayran back in the day. I will be reading your grammar. And that line above, for some reason, I remembered all this time.

As for the grammar and roots: is what you did what I could call "polysynthetic infixation"?
by DV82LECM
30 Sep 2019 15:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eathut - 7 phonemes
Replies: 33
Views: 2929

Re: Eathut - 7 phonemes

So... Some of the rules have changed, again. *holds grudge with self* But NOTHING that rewrites everything ABOVE. I've simplified some of the rules and made them slightly more plausible. Biggest of all, the actualization of like consonants. And the stressed, intervocalic syllables have consistent vo...
by DV82LECM
28 Sep 2019 05:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eathut - 7 phonemes
Replies: 33
Views: 2929

Re: Eathut - 7 phonemes

Why is <e> used for /i~e/ but <u> for /u~o/? Because my last name is MansEAU. I'm slightly self-absorbed. But, in all seriousness, I've ALWAYS been fascinated with my last name. Its constant mispronunciation was an early springboard into linguistics. My orthography is an homage. I ALSO have graphem...
by DV82LECM
28 Sep 2019 00:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eathut - 7 phonemes
Replies: 33
Views: 2929

Re: Eathut - 7 phonemes

Just a quickie:

There are ONLY two cardinal directions:

TÉPUT ['tivoɾ] "East (place where the Sun rises)"
ÁTUT ['alon] "West (place where the Sun sets)"
by DV82LECM
22 Sep 2019 14:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eathut - 7 phonemes
Replies: 33
Views: 2929

Re: Eathut - 7 phonemes

Permitted intervocalic clusters (SOME sandhi is involved and certain environments are different than expected). [p: t: k: ft fk t͡sp t͡sk ʃp ʃt] [mp nt ŋk mt mk np nk ŋp ŋt] [p:ʷ t:ʷ k:ʷ psʷ fkʷ lpʷ lkʷ ʃpʷ ksʷ] [mpʷ ntʷ ŋkʷ msʷ mkʷ npʷ nkʷ ŋpʷ ŋsʷ] [p:ʲ t:ʃ k:ʲ ptʃ fkʲ lpʲ lkʲ ʃpʲ ktʃ] [mpʲ ntʃ ŋkʲ...
by DV82LECM
20 Sep 2019 02:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Pëgeitwaw
Replies: 10
Views: 465

Re: Pëgeitwaw

Neat! ALWAYS enjoy a good old Shem-lang. This one in particular.

But, why <ë̈>? And not <ë>?
by DV82LECM
18 Sep 2019 18:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eathut - 7 phonemes
Replies: 33
Views: 2929

Re: Eathut - 8 phonemes

Let's take a break from phonotactics and talk about pronouns: 1pS <eppá> /i'pa/ 2pS <put> /poɾ/ 3pM <ca> /ka/ 3pF <áhe> /'aji/ 3pN <tu> /tu/ Plurality is derived with prefix <ha>. 1pP <haeppá> /hai'pa/ 2pP <hapút> /ha'voɾ/ 3pPM <hacá> /ha'ʒa/ 3pPF <háhe> /'haji/ 3pPN <hatú> /ha'lu/ I will talk about...
by DV82LECM
18 Sep 2019 17:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eathut - 7 phonemes
Replies: 33
Views: 2929

Re: Eathut - 8 phonemes

Phonotactics, Part 4. I am doing this post earlier than I thought. THIS post is about the intervocal clusters within the language. Clusters have always been a favorite of mine to try to derive. Unlike most of you, I am sure, phonology has ALWAYS been my favorite aspect of languages, in general. /-p/...