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by Zekoslav
02 Jan 2019 11:04
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 43
Views: 18995

Re: English Dialects

Another foreign pronunciation of English [:D] : KIT i̞ DRESS ɛ TRAP a ~ æ LOT ɔ STRUT ɐ FOOT ʊ (yes, for some reason, my FOOT vowel is more lax than my KIT vowel) BATH ɑː CLOTH ɔ NURSE ɚː FLEECE iː FACE ei̯ PALM ɑː GOAT ou̯ GOOSE uː PRICE ai̯ CHOICE oi̯ MOUTH ɑu̯ NEAR iːɚ̯ SQUARE eːɚ̯ START ɑːɻ NORT...
by Zekoslav
31 Dec 2018 11:23
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6814
Views: 764865

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

In the oldest Western South Slavic documents written in the Latin alphabet (based on Italian and Old High German), schwa is represented variably as <e> or <i>, while <a> is never used. I'm not sure how this relates to the eventual decision to use <e> in most European languages - maybe schwa really w...
by Zekoslav
31 Dec 2018 11:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14384
Views: 1132774

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

It depends on the language. For example, in my dialect of Croatian, accented vowels are slightly longer than unaccented ones even though the accent is otherwise purely pitch and no stress (this has been checked by phonetic analysis), while in Japanese both accented and unaccented vowels are the same...
by Zekoslav
20 Dec 2018 14:23
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6814
Views: 764865

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

There's a well-described Oceanic language, Mwotlap, which fit's the requirement of having underlying representations very different from their surface realizations (it's strictly CVC), having lots of interesting morphonology in the process.

It's full description, is, however, in French only.
by Zekoslav
29 Nov 2018 18:27
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6814
Views: 764865

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Oh, interesting, I thought that the voiceless aspirated stops were a development specific to Indo-Aryan. Well, there's two possible scenarios for the Iranian development, as I alluded to in my post. Indo-Aryan voiceless aspirates correspond to Iranian voiceless fricatives, and both develop from clu...
by Zekoslav
29 Nov 2018 15:29
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6814
Views: 764865

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Voiced aspirate > unvoiced fricative happened word-initially in Italic. A good list of PIE. to Iranian sound changes is here (it's in German, which I can barely understand, but it's formulation of sound changes is independant of language). As for where Iranian voiceless fricatives come from: basical...
by Zekoslav
27 Nov 2018 09:56
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6814
Views: 764865

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does anyone know of any vowel length alternation systems that have developed recently? Or that otherwise have a well-understood origin? And would anyone happen to have links or info about such a system? Assuming I understood you correctly, any Slavic language with phonemic vowel length has a plenty...
by Zekoslav
24 Nov 2018 21:06
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14384
Views: 1132774

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I can give a few examples from pitch accent languages, which fit the requirements of having (phonemically) both toned and toneless syllables: Usually, the accented syllable has a high tone, and unaccented syllables have a low tone: this is the case in Vedic, Ancient Greek, and most Serbo-Croatian di...
by Zekoslav
23 Nov 2018 09:38
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6814
Views: 764865

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Re: agreement of possessive pronouns Probably all Slavic languages which have possessive pronouns - certainly the Western South Slavic languages. All possessive pronouns agree with the gender, number and case of the possessum, like adjectives (pronouns and adjectives tend to share a common declensio...
by Zekoslav
07 Nov 2018 14:18
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Today I learned ...
Replies: 31
Views: 41459

Re: Today I learned ...

It does look funky in capital letters [:D] !
by Zekoslav
07 Nov 2018 10:22
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Today I learned ...
Replies: 31
Views: 41459

Re: Today I learned ...

Today I learned that the reconstructed PIE word for wolf, "wlkʷos" should have given Latin *volquus and Greek *alpos. But instead we get lupus and lykos , so there must have been some other processes involved (Latin may have borrowed from Sabellic). Interesting :) I think "volquus" is a better word...
by Zekoslav
06 Nov 2018 11:40
Forum: Teach & Share
Topic: A Beginner's guide to Slavic accentuation
Replies: 11
Views: 19333

Re: A Beginner's guide to Slavic accentuation

More about accent paradigms in derivation I'm back! I took me a lot of time to think through how to continue this thread, and the beginning of college didn't help with finding time to do it. But, now the Beginner's guide to Slavic accentuation is officially back in action! 1. Headedness of weight-s...
by Zekoslav
01 Nov 2018 15:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Jäzik Panúski
Replies: 24
Views: 5215

Re: Jezik Panoski

I like these new Ideas of yours! One thing I have to say is that no Štokavian dialect actually has fixed stress on the first syllable - it's just that some of them have had a sound change which moved them in that direction, due to Hungarian influence (stress moved from the word-final mora to the wor...
by Zekoslav
26 Oct 2018 17:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Frislander's IE-lang scratchpad
Replies: 35
Views: 17361

Re: Frislander's IE-lang scratchpad

Once again we collapse the dative and locative, though with the actual form of the locative winning out due to its identity with the o-stem dative. I'm not entirely sure what to make of the length alternation (where long reflects and original full grade and short reflects an original zero grade). I...
by Zekoslav
13 Oct 2018 12:13
Forum: Teach & Share
Topic: A Beginner's guide to Slavic accentuation
Replies: 11
Views: 19333

Re: A Beginner's guide to Slavic accentuation

I haven't taken the time to read through this thread yet, but I wanted to say thank you for making it. I look forward to learning something when I finally get around to it! Thank you! I've been rather busy recently, but I intend to continue the thread. In the last post I tried to explain too many t...
by Zekoslav
07 Oct 2018 09:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14384
Views: 1132774

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Old High German used <z> to represent the laminal /s/ derived from PG. *t, while using <s> to represent the apical /s̺/ derived from PG. *s, which later becomes /ʃ/ in word-initial consonant clusters. That could be used as a precedent for writing /s/, /ʃ/ as <z>, <s>, if your orthography was establi...
by Zekoslav
05 Oct 2018 15:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14384
Views: 1132774

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Considering that in ergative languages, absolutive is generally the unmarked case, I'd guess titles would be in the absolutive. Although, it might depend on how your conculture (if relevant) comes up with titles - I wish I knew more about that in other real-world cultures (I still think the unmarked...
by Zekoslav
25 Sep 2018 19:52
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2886
Views: 258987

Re: Yay or Nay?

@ shimo: Thank's for your input, since Proto-Tewanian is undergoing an unexpected revision atm. I'm currently inclined to decide the outcome on a word-to-word basis (simulating messy analogical changes), but having irregularities be concentrated in the a-conjugation is appealing, since it is otherwi...
by Zekoslav
15 Sep 2018 17:39
Forum: Teach & Share
Topic: A Beginner's guide to Slavic accentuation
Replies: 11
Views: 19333

Re: A Beginner's guide to Slavic accentuation

Accent of longer words pt. 1 The rules of accent assignment detailed in the last post apply to words containing any number of morphemes. In this post, I will demonstrate how this works with words containing three morphemes (a root, a derivational suffix and an inflectional suffix). 1. Classes of st...
by Zekoslav
12 Sep 2018 17:20
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Tewanian languages - a subfamily of Indo-European
Replies: 1
Views: 679

Re: Tewanian languages - a subfamily of Indo-European

A revision of Proto-Tewanian accent system While writing the Beginner's Guide to Slavic Accentuation, I researched the PIE. accent system and decided to make it's development in Proto-Tewanian more nuanced than simply "it's too complex so it's replaced by a fixed stress system". So, everything that...