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by ɶʙ ɞʛ
17 Nov 2019 19:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 178
Views: 12360

Re: Romanization game #2

Next /m n ŋ/ <m n ń> /p b t d k g kʲ~ʧ~c gʲ~ʤ~ɟ/ <p b t d k g c ǵ> /f v θ ð s z x ɣ xʲ~ʃ~ç ɣʲ~ʒ~ʝ h hʲ~ȷ̊/ <f v ś ź s z x h ç j> /l j ɥ~ɰʲ w~ɰ/ <l y wy w> /ɽ~r/ <r> /i iː yː ɨ u uː eː øː o oː ɛ œ ɔ~ɒ aː/ <i ii ui ï u uu ee eo o oo e ö a aa> Another very large inventory: /m̥ n̪̊ n̥ ɳ̊ ɲ̊ ŋ̊/ /m n̪ n ...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
16 Nov 2019 23:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 178
Views: 12360

Re: Romanization game #2

/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ> /ᵐb nd ᵑg/ <m̈ n̈ ŋ̈> /p t ts tɬ tʃ k Ɂ/ <p t z c̈ c k '> /pʰ tʰ tsʰ tɬʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <p̈ ẗ z̈ c̈̈ c̈ k̈> /p̕ t̕ ts̕ tɬ̕ tʃ̕ k̕/ <p̈̈ ẗ̈ z̈̈ c̈̈̈̈ c̈̈̈ k̈̈> /ɸ s ɬ ʃ x h/ <f s l q x h> /v ɮ ɣ~ɰ/ <f̈ ł g> /j w/ <j w> /i y ɯ u/ <i ü ï u> /e ø ɤ o/ <ë ø̈ ë̈ ö> /ɛ œ ʌ ɔ/ <e ø ä o> /a/ <a> /m ...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
16 Nov 2019 18:54
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Origin of some English orthography inconsistencies
Replies: 4
Views: 101

Re: Origin of some English orthography inconsistencies

Thank you for giving such a detailed description. That also explains the <gh> being pronounced as /f/ sometimes, as word-final [x] > [xʷ] > [f] irregularly after rounded vowels. Also, in 1700, the long o was generally [ou]. Most of southern England, as well as RP today, might have [əʉ] and [ʉ:] for ...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
15 Nov 2019 22:52
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Origin of some English orthography inconsistencies
Replies: 4
Views: 101

Origin of some English orthography inconsistencies

Did this happen at some point for English?
800 > 1300 > 1700 > 2000
<ow> /ou/ > /u:/ > /au/ > /au/ (as in <now>)
<ow> /ɔu/ > /o:/ > /ou/ > /əʉ/, or /ɞu/ in North America (as in <low>)
<aw> /au/ > /ɒo/ > /ɔ:/ > /o:/, or /ɒ:~a:/ in North America
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
15 Nov 2019 19:15
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Are velarized vowels possible?
Replies: 12
Views: 167

Re: Are velarized vowels possible?

Pre-velarization is possible for any vowel (cf. Russian, which has /ʲi ʲe ʲæ ʲɵ ʲʉ/ vs /ˠɨ ˠɛ ˠɑ ˠɔ ˠu/, and Irish, with something similar)
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
15 Nov 2019 19:13
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Are velarized vowels possible?
Replies: 12
Views: 167

Re: Are velarized vowels possible?

For me, some vowels can be velarized ([e o ə]), while others cannot ([ɯ u æ]). Some can even be palatalized (e.g. [æ]).
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
15 Nov 2019 01:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 178
Views: 12360

Re: Romanization game #2

/m n/ <m n> /b t d k/ <b d j k> /f z h/ <f s h> /j w/ <ì ù> /r~l/ <r> /i u e o œ a/ <i u e o œ a> Central vs lateral harmony. Nasals are neutral. /m n nʷ ɳ ɳʷ ɲ ɲʷ ŋ ŋʷ/ /p' t' tʷ' ts' tsʷ' ʈ' ʈʷ' ʈʂ' ʈʂʷ' c' cʷ' k' kʷ'/ /p͆ˡ' tˡ' tˡʷ' tɬ' tɬʷ' ʈˡ' ʈˡʷ' ʈꞎ' ʈꞎʷ' cʎ̝̥' cʎ̝̥ʷ' kʟ̥̝' kʟ̥̝ʷ'/ /p t tʷ ts...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
12 Nov 2019 06:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: New conlang family?
Replies: 27
Views: 1105

Re: Zed Zirac

Couple (in terms of anything): canohze /tsanohs̺e/ > /tsʌŋx̠:i:/ > /tɑŋki/
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
12 Nov 2019 06:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: New conlang family?
Replies: 27
Views: 1105

Re: Zed Zirac

Negation: θo /tʰo/ > /tʰo:/ > /tʰɔu/ > /t̺s̺ɑu/

Calque for exclusive 1st or 2nd plural: θoede > /tʰo:jde:/ > /tʰɔuȡɪ/ > /t̺s̺ɑuɻe/
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
11 Nov 2019 01:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 178
Views: 12360

Re: Romanization game #2

/m n/ <m n>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k x>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ ʁ h/ <f v s z ś ź g h>
/l j w/ <l j w>
/r/ <r>

/i ɨ u e o ɐ a/ <i y u e o a á>

/m n ɴ/
/t' k' q'/
/p b t͡p t d k~ʔ q q͡χ/
/f v θ r̥ ʂ~h χ ʁ/
/ʙ͡r͜ʀ r ʀ/

/i u ɛ a ɞ͡ʛ/
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
10 Nov 2019 01:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 178
Views: 12360

Re: Romanization game #2

/m n/ <m n> /t ʈ k q ʡ ʔ/ <t j k q q́ '> /ⁿd ⁿɖ ⁿɡ ⁿɢ/ <d đ ŋ ŋ' (supposed to be ŋ with acute)> /s ʂ x ħ h/ <s ś x ħ h> /l r ɭ ɽ͡r ʕ̞ j w/ <l r ł ŕ g y u> /i u ə a/ <i o ø a> Another minimalism, but with allophonic clicks this time: /m~n~h/ /p~k~h t ʈ/ /d ɖ/ /s ʂ/ /ɣ/ /i e a o u/ /ɣ/ is realized as ...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
09 Nov 2019 18:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: New conlang family?
Replies: 27
Views: 1105

Re: Zed Zirac

2nd person: jax /jax̠/ > /jʌx̠/ > /jɪh/. jaxle /jax̠le/ > /jʌs̺e/ > /jʌs̺i:/ > /jæθi/. jaxlo /jax̠lo/ > /jʌs̺o/ > /jʌs̺ɔu/ > /jæθæu/. jaxede /jax̠ede/ > /jʌx̠te/ > /jʌs̺ti:/ > /jæθti/. jaxlede /jax̠lede/ > /jʌs̺ede/ > /jʌs̺i:dɪ/ > /jæθilɪ/ 1st person: ex /ex̠/ > /ɛx̠/ > /ɑx̠/ > /ɑh/. exle /ex̠le/ > ...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
07 Nov 2019 23:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 178
Views: 12360

Re: Romanization game #2

Next /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /p b t̟ d̟ t̪ d̪ c ɟ k g ʔ/ <p b t d x z c ź k g '> /f v θ̟ ð̟ s̪ z̪ ʃ ʒ ʕ h/ <f v ç q č š ć ś j h> /l ʎ j ɥ ʟ ɰ w/ <l li i y ł ī ū> /r/ <r> /i y ɨ u e ø ə o ɛ œ ɜ ʌ ɔ ɑ/ <í ü î u é ø ê ó e ö ä ë o a> The vowels shown have different forms sort of used like in German /i u e o ɛ ...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
06 Nov 2019 18:27
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: New conlang family?
Replies: 27
Views: 1105

Re: Zed Zirac

An unusual insult, describing entitlement or narcissism:

ǥohled zirac! /g˗ohled s̺irats/ > /hɔhled s̺ɪrɑts/ > /hɔsed s̺rɑts/ > /hos̺i:t̺s̺rɑts/ > /hoθɪtlɑt̺s̺/
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
30 Oct 2019 16:44
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 99
Views: 57080

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Also, Danish's crazy vowel system (16 phonemic qualities in long and short form!). This is more complex than any conlang, including from Birdlang. /i i: y y: u u:/ /ɪ ɪ: ʏ ʏ: ʊ ʊ:/ /e e: ø ø: o o:/ /ɛ ɛ: œ œ: ɔ ɔ:/ /æ æ: ɶ ɶ: ɒ ɒ:/ /a a:/ No explicit diphthongs of course, but then you have things li...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
29 Oct 2019 05:04
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: Let's reform ???
Replies: 0
Views: 499

Let's reform ???

The initial language: Stop: p t k q <p t k q> Nasal Stop: m n ŋ ɴ <m n ń ŋ> Fricative: f s x χ <f s ç x> Nasal Fricative: ṽ z̃ ɣ̃ ʁ̃ <v z c g> Approximant: j w ʁ̞ <j w h> Nasal Approximant: j̃ w̃ ʁ̞̃ <ȷ́ ẃ ħ> High Vowel: i u <i u> Low Vowel: a <a> Sample: /was fʁ̞ajaʁ̞a ʁ̞ṽ xiɴ χiʁ̞̃ twaṽa iɴiɴinʁ̞ ...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
27 Oct 2019 21:11
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: New conlang family?
Replies: 27
Views: 1105

Zed Zirac

3rd person pronoun base form - ze /s̺e/ in initial protolang > /s̺ɛ/, often abbreviated to just /s̺/. Derived forms - zed /s̺ed/ > /s̺ɛd/ zele /s̺ele/ > /s̺ɛle/ > /s̺ɛli:/ > /s̺li:/, some dialects realize this as /ɬi:/ zelo /s̺elo/ > /s̺ɛlo/ > /s̺ɛlɔu/ > /s̺lɔu/ [ɬɔu] for some dialects /s̺ɛd/ > /θe...
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
27 Oct 2019 21:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: New conlang family?
Replies: 27
Views: 1105

Zed Zirac

Isolated voiced stops lenite to approximants:

zirac-ed /s̺irats-ed/ > /s̺ɪrɑtsed/ > /s̺rɑtsed/ > /θlɑt̺s̺el/
zed zirac-ed /s̺ɛts̺ɪrɑtsed/ > /s̺ɛts̺rɑtsed/ > /θɛtθrɑts̺el/ > /θetlɑt̺s̺el/
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
27 Oct 2019 20:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: New conlang family?
Replies: 27
Views: 1105

Re: New conlang family?

The initial language name: zed zirac /s̺ed s̺irats/.

At intermediate stages: /s̺ɛd s̺ɪrɑts/ > /s̺ɛts̺ɪrɑts/ > /s̺ɛts̺rɑts/ > /θɛtθrɑts̺/ > /θetlɑt̺s̺/
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
27 Oct 2019 20:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: New conlang family?
Replies: 27
Views: 1105

Re: New conlang family?

/n̺j/ does not become /ȵ/, instead in fully apical environments the /j/ fully assimilates to /ɻ/, while in fully front environments it becomes /n̺w/ > /n̺/ or /m/ next to unrounded and rounded vowels respectively.