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by Nortaneous
21 Feb 2019 17:31
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: The Conculture/Conpeople Opinions Thread
Replies: 500
Views: 114516

Re: The Conculture/Conpeople Opinions Thread

Next question: Plants/crops that are grown but not for food in your conworld? There are two non-food cash crops whose common names come from Miar: zʷar , known as rviru ~ rviju in Enzielu and transmitted west through pre-Amqoli *zbirup (> Amqoli zberu ) > Narngic *zɨbürüh > Vengic *zi.byur.yuh > Zz...
by Nortaneous
20 Feb 2019 09:57
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 62
Views: 20343

Re: English Dialects

So your TRAP ones are all TRAP in RP, except 'castle', and 'rather', which is, as I say, clearly an independent analogy. Oh, and "castor" (except for "Castor", which being a loanword takes TRAP. Wait, does that mean (given American BATH loanwords) that some US dialects say "castor" for Castor and "...
by Nortaneous
20 Feb 2019 08:45
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6832
Views: 791767

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

How did High German get <fünf> /fʏnf/ from Proto-Germanic *fimf? As far as I can tell, umlaut did not operate in this word, nor can I see anything internal that would cause /ɪ/ to round. I'm not an expert on Germanic but if I had to make a guess the /f/ and /m/ is probably why, since they're both l...
by Nortaneous
19 Feb 2019 15:35
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 62
Views: 20343

Re: English Dialects

Some words that might be worth testing if you have a splitter to hand might be: TRAP: gaff, mastic, fantastic, asp-, gasket, jasper, castle (and castor, castigate), rather BATH: asp, mass (and cast, caster, caste), alas, fasten missing from the dictionary: bastion, crass Also TRAP: ant (but no othe...
by Nortaneous
18 Feb 2019 13:09
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 62
Views: 20343

Re: English Dialects

Take cot-caught merged American. We have two possible models: A: - like other southern englishes, all american splits LOT and CLOTH - like many other englishes, including RP, CLOTH merges with THOUGHT - like other west country englishes (the english dialects american outside of boston is most simil...
by Nortaneous
18 Feb 2019 12:41
Forum: Translations
Topic: Conlang accents
Replies: 71
Views: 9123

Re: Conlang accents

Starting in the west and going east. The westernmost notable language is Zzyxwqnp, which is tonal. I'm not sure how the tones should work, so I'll ignore them. [wɒ jumõ bijĩzz̩ wɒ bõ fv̩ʎi jẽ jiko jĩ dʑiȵĩtɕi jẽ ɺəjitsz̩ || dʑe wɒ jĩda wi ʎisə̃ jẽ kɒ̃ɕẽ jẽ ɕu ja to wɒnə̃nɒ̃də jĩ wɒ sz̩piʎi wɒ buɺədə...
by Nortaneous
05 Feb 2019 12:00
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 62
Views: 20343

Re: English Dialects

In any dialect anywhere? There's a lot of possibilities... Not all dialects need to be descended from the same maximally recent common ancestor. Is there a reason to posit a 'surrender' of the LOT-CLOTH split, rather than saying it just didn't happen in those dialects in the first place? And why sh...
by Nortaneous
30 Jan 2019 05:33
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 62
Views: 20343

Re: English Dialects

LOT = THOUGHT?
by Nortaneous
30 Jan 2019 04:14
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 62
Views: 20343

Re: English Dialects

So... what all are the possible low vowel outcomes in the English dialects? TRAP BATH MAD FATHER LOT CLOTH THOUGHT START GenAm æ æ æ ɑ ɑ ɔ ɔ ar PA/NJ æ æ eə ɑ ɑ ɔ ɔ ar Boston æ æ æ ɑ ɔ? ɔ? ɔ ɑ WestAm æ æ æ ɑ ɑ ɑ ɑ ar RP æ ɑ æ ɑ ɒ ɒ ɔ ɑ (+NORTH/FORCE = THOUGHT) Kheme æ a æ ɑ ɑ? ɔ? ɔ ar? Newfndl æ æ æ...
by Nortaneous
30 Jan 2019 03:59
Forum: Translations
Topic: The jawbone of an ass [;)]
Replies: 15
Views: 2339

Re: The jawbone of an ass [;)]

What does the T stand for in the 3T.M notations? Noun classes T, S, and L. They govern verb agreement, but not much else. Probably should have adjective agreement too, but Amqoli morphology needs to be completely redone anyway. I also am uncertain about <NONF>heap-V>N.be_over Generic nonfinite form...
by Nortaneous
30 Jan 2019 03:55
Forum: Translations
Topic: Fish smoking cigarettes
Replies: 24
Views: 10758

Re: Fish smoking cigarettes

Amqoli: Qoryaskri pshilxashi chom ldze zdurshtluq!!! Lgosa shindrixal ryamzhe qapshchile me mebgumxzha, i sha qhamnu lim medzruzha. Chxelyadi. [qoˈʝaskçi ˈpʃijxaʃi tʃõ‿ⁿdze zdur̥ʃtɫuʁ || ˈɫɣosa ˈʃiⁿdrixaɫ ˈʑãʒe qaˈpʃtʃiɫe me meˈbɣũɣʒa | i ʃa ˈqʰamnu jĩ meˈdzruʒa || tʃʰeˈjaði] tadpole-COLL cigarette-...
by Nortaneous
14 Jan 2019 07:25
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 62
Views: 20343

Re: English Dialects

Khemehekis wrote:
05 Jan 2019 06:10
I have [æ] for "ant", [a] for "aunt", [æ] for "trap", [a] for "bath", [ɑ] for "thought", and [ɑ] for "palm". Make of that what you will.
Does "palm" have /l/? Which vowel do you have in "father"? How common is this?
By artificial, do you mean affected?
Yes, imported from Britain.
by Nortaneous
02 Jan 2019 19:16
Forum: Translations
Topic: The jawbone of an ass [;)]
Replies: 15
Views: 2339

Re: The jawbone of an ass [;)]

Amqoli: Sha ndeq pshazhashi kralixtsu traqe, sha lphajo cherye tqhazhel, sha je shcheta bguli tetsori. [ʃa ⁿdjaʁ ˈpʃaʒaʃi kraˈʎixtsu traˈʁe | ʃa ˈlpʰadʒo ˈtʃeje ˈtqˣaʒeɫ | ʃa dʒe ˈʃtʃeta ˈbɣuʎi teˈtsoji] and new ass-PAR jawbone 3T.M-find\PST | and 3S.POSS-hand 3T.M-extend\PST 3T.M-take-PST=3.ACC | a...
by Nortaneous
02 Jan 2019 18:48
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Dialects
Replies: 62
Views: 20343

Re: English Dialects

I'm not sure exactly of my vowels- I'm basically General American, but my /ə ʌ/ might be slightly untypical from GA, as I have a light Philly accent, and the stronger varieties of Philly Dialect do weird things to unstressed vowels, but for me, it's pretty much unoticible unless you're doing a narr...
by Nortaneous
02 Jan 2019 18:45
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 856
Views: 135315

Re: English Orthography Reform

The US have a funny way of classifying people anyway, counting hispanics as an own race. No, the official governmental category (at least) is completely orthogonal. When I speak quickly, my "we'll" can become /wəl~wl̩/, which does sound a bit like /ˈwʊl/. I wouldn't expect there to be much in the w...
by Nortaneous
02 Jan 2019 18:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random Conlang Concepts
Replies: 7
Views: 564

Re: Random Conlang Concepts

Early branch of IE splits off and goes so far east that it somehow ends up in the PNW where it belonged
by Nortaneous
28 Dec 2018 21:41
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14461
Views: 1176905

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I know phonemic R-coloured consonants are (almost certainly) unattested and probably the only languages that ever have them at all are American English and Mandarin Chinese, but let's say a conlang had them and they caused adjacent vowels and the following consonant in consonant clusters to become ...
by Nortaneous
28 Dec 2018 21:33
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 856
Views: 135315

Re: English Orthography Reform

By the way, what is this bat/bad split? Phonemic split of /æ/ into /æ/ and /eə/, found from Baltimore to New York. Same principle as the bad-lad split, but some of the details are different, and which words have which phoneme differs by exact location. The split might even be (marginally) phonemic ...
by Nortaneous
27 Dec 2018 07:35
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 856
Views: 135315

Re: English Orthography Reform

Speaking of diacritics, I don't understand why English speakers wouldn't accept using American Heritage Dictionary spelling - The cot-caught merger in about a third of the population - Nonrhoticity in maybe 20%: most blacks and some whites in New England and the South - The merger of /ur/ into /or/...
by Nortaneous
20 Nov 2018 23:08
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Non-English Orthography Reform
Replies: 294
Views: 88022

Re: Non-English Orthography Reform

Naj sf, thyenbxyajzwnf tw khoginb yenfyug, tobsf ibyaaj. Thabmwn vaag twwbpyenb kyenbif tw sfho, txaij Sjnaf tij yujkyenj ib kyenj phiifvyenf, kyouj tsuj txaij najli. Thabmwn pigtxhg saablyaaj svob: "Laif pa, vogmwn yauj txvoj tsvanb, pag tsvanb saubthoj lw." Thabmwn kyoj naf tsvanb taaj sftof, yoj ...