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by Chagen
14 Nov 2016 02:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5752
Views: 1346381

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I've got a question pertaining to Sunbyaku. It has a Japanese/PIE-esque thematical vowel system, where verb roots (well, a subset of them, called "Internals") are suffixed with vowels to determine meaning. However, in cases where the verb's root historically ended with /j/, this disappeared and the ...
by Chagen
07 Nov 2016 22:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5752
Views: 1346381

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Thanks for the suggestions. Sumelic, our suggestion about debuccalizing a phoneme into /h/ actually works pretty well; in Sunbyaku, non-initial /*h/ disappeared unless it was next to a diphthong/long vowel or after an /n/, in which case it became /w/. I think I will have [fu] come from geminate /*h/...
by Chagen
07 Nov 2016 20:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Over the past hour I have made a rather substantial modification to Sunbyaku's verbal morphology. I had realized that I had been floundering about with no goal in mind or focus, which was why I was constantly getting stuck. And I really do like what I have done. I'll be light on details since I want...
by Chagen
07 Nov 2016 20:37
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5752
Views: 1346381

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Is it attested in natlangs to have "marginal" phonemes, which are only phonemic in some places while being allophones in others? To explain: I have done this in Sunbyaku, in order to enforce the Japanese-ness while also allowing me to have more phonemes. For instance, unlike Japanese, Sunbyaku disti...
by Chagen
06 Nov 2016 22:36
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Compose key programs
Replies: 3
Views: 1157

Compose key programs

(Originally posted to the ZBB, but you know I like to post things on here and there) Today I started using my father's laptop instead of my own since mine was pretty much falling to pieces. I've been setting up more and stuff on it and I intend to use it for a decently wide variety of things, though...
by Chagen
06 Nov 2016 02:52
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I am bored and thinking of playing a little game: open up Gleb, take the first phonology it gives me, and then creating a proto-lang with it and deriving daughters (probably three) from said proto-lang. The goal is not to create a super-fleshed out language but instead get enough grammar to do simpl...
by Chagen
04 Nov 2016 18:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I see what you mean. I have a tendency to apply my English bias here: since long vowels are not really a thing my native language, they don't feel as "distinct" to me. Like, /a/ and /e/ are clearly different qualities, but /a/ and /a:/ to my mind often feel like only a "minor" difference in length--...
by Chagen
02 Nov 2016 01:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I'm working through what classes of odd Internal verbs I want for Sunbyaku 2.0, though there are some hang-ups. For instance, the 2nd -ārī class is honestly barely any different from the regular internals: shimarī "to eat" (regular internal) jivārī "to make a living/provide" (2nd-class -ārī odd Inte...
by Chagen
30 Oct 2016 21:07
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5752
Views: 1346381

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I don't have anything to back it up, but what you propose seems plausible enough to me. Of course, something like *tekiku > tekku happens frequently in Japanese, and I imagine you know about that, though there is no restriction based on the quality of the preceding vowel. Something like *kadoyo > k...
by Chagen
30 Oct 2016 04:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Heh. Unfortunately, now that I have looked over things more clearly, the reality isn't as absurdly complex. Darn. In other news, the new Potential formation I have looks nice, but in the negative 1S and 3P, respectively, the result ends up looking like a ghetto Japanese Potential verb (in the positi...
by Chagen
30 Oct 2016 02:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Hoo boy the Sunbyaku reboot is pure evil now. Thanks to historical sound change, there are a million verb subclasses. The simple internals are all gravy, but the odd internals (those whose roots end in a vowel, such as toarī "to give", or which end in -ay- or -aw- as in osayarī "to investigate, exam...
by Chagen
30 Oct 2016 02:42
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: What are you listening to/watching?
Replies: 1199
Views: 283499

Re: What are you listening to/watching?

Scarlet Velvet (Ginryu Solo Ver.) by TAMAONSEN

What better listening material for working on Sunbyaku than its natlang inspiration?
by Chagen
29 Oct 2016 01:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I started kicking around ideas for Sunbyaku out of nowhere. I haven't come up with much, but I really like the new Passive forms I've come up with. The passive is still formed by suffixing hayarī "become" onto the verb, but thanks to historical sound change, that verb is highly reduced: sakata "you ...
by Chagen
29 Oct 2016 00:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5752
Views: 1346381

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I have some more questions about diachronic sound changes, mostly relating to Sunbyaku. How plausible are the following scenarios in a language's history: -Umlauting vowels (i.e having vowels affected by later ones) but only across "weak" consonants like resonants. So, * katosa > katosa , but katoya...
by Chagen
26 Oct 2016 02:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I am currently breaking my brain thanks to Pazmat. Of course, my solution was to add even more unecessary complexity to the language. I'm thinking of deriving an equivalent to Sanskrit's ṣet-roots, with two kinds. These special roots end in Cy or Cw before a vowel, but are Ci/Cu before a consonant. ...
by Chagen
25 Oct 2016 01:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2108
Views: 305144

Re: Yay or Nay?

In Pazmat the term is yuraśtagā , "swaying-back-and-forth mutation", the word "ablaut" itself being śtēgasā "*(little) change". Notably, the overall concept is ablaut is a collective noun śtagā ; to talk about one instance or pattern of ablaut this must be turned into the diminutive śtēgasā . Also, ...
by Chagen
25 Oct 2016 00:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Yay or Nay?
Replies: 2108
Views: 305144

Re: Yay or Nay?

Should I add schwebeablaut to Pazmat? I like having CṛC expand to both CraC and CarC, but I would like to have some consistent rules for when one or the other appears. My main hesitation is that I will inevitably find roots where I like both outcomes: for instance, śṛv > śrav- is nice, but I can't d...
by Chagen
25 Oct 2016 00:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I think I just came up with a solution to Pazmat syllabic roots with labials ablauting to either aC or uC (e.g is "I am working", root mṛjh- , marjhṛna or murjhṛna ?), with the fact that I'm spinning off ṃ roots to their own weird ablaut class (sort of?). Actually in retrospect, this doesn't really ...
by Chagen
24 Oct 2016 23:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5752
Views: 1346381

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm not quite sure how to put this, but I'm wondering if Pazmat's number of ablaut variations is plausible. I am working on a new thread for it (as I detailed in the recent post I made to the original Pazmat thread), and I'm thinking of adding more morphophonology and ablaut patterns. As of now, the...
by Chagen
19 Oct 2016 04:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6633
Views: 1029922

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Time to work on Pazmat again. I'm already thinking of giving it a new case, as overloaded as this does make the nominal system. I want a case that isn't super-specialized; in other words, one which can have a very wide set of meanings, and especially one which can be used with other words such as pa...