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by Omzinesý
16 May 2019 18:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread of my newest project
Replies: 30
Views: 236

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

A new version of verb inflection The intransitive inflection is easy and agglutinative. Epistemic slot -a 'Sensory' -i 'Egophoric' -u 'Fact' -o 'Reportative' Person slot -ya 'I' -zero with the egophoric form -hu 'you' -k 'he/it' -c 'she/it' -p 'they' The mood system is still coming. -p is Indicative...
by Omzinesý
16 May 2019 17:36
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread of my newest project
Replies: 30
Views: 236

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Actually I think egophoricity markers usually develop from existential copulae. But it's some years since I have read about them. That's true for Tibetan at least, but I wouldn't know how wide that typology extends beyond it. At least in Bunan egophoric marking developed from the reanalysis of pers...
by Omzinesý
14 May 2019 08:27
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread of my newest project
Replies: 30
Views: 236

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

The problem with egophoricity and morphology is that I don't know any language with both egophoricity marking and subject person agreement. Typologically they are distinct phenomena but I have no exemplars of natlangs. They usually don't occur together and egophoric marking certainly can develop fr...
by Omzinesý
07 May 2019 18:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread of my newest project
Replies: 30
Views: 236

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

What’s egophoricity again? It's about coding personal authority over the information; in the classical case being personal knowledge by the subject. The characteristic egophoric pattern is that you mark the 1st person in applicable declarative clauses and the 2nd person in questions, meaning that y...
by Omzinesý
03 May 2019 22:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Miršian - a Finnic conlang
Replies: 13
Views: 674

Re: Miršian - a Finnic conlang

The passive Miršian passive differs from those of Finnish and Estonian in that it agrees the number of its subject. Syntactically it also is more subjectlike than its counterparts. singular plural Present -taš -tašt Past -taś -taśt Finnic passive is explained as a kind of middle-voice form of a caus...
by Omzinesý
03 May 2019 17:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread of my newest project
Replies: 30
Views: 236

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

First attempt for verb morphology Verbs agree the subject and the gender of a definite object. The example verb is "luk". I don't know what it should mean. Egophoric /e/ and /yu/ can be interpreted as markers egophoricity. Subject markers: sg1 and pl1incl don't have markers. 1st person marker is /t...
by Omzinesý
03 May 2019 16:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread of my newest project
Replies: 30
Views: 236

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Phonotactics The only allowed consonant clusters consist of two obstruents with the same MOA (pt, gd, mn ...). The first one does not have an own explosion. A semivowel /w, j <y>) can however appear between a consonant and a vowel. "pkyamn" is thus an allowed syllable. Every sonorant has a prestopp...
by Omzinesý
02 May 2019 13:41
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread of my newest project
Replies: 30
Views: 236

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Orthography doesnt have anything special

p t c k
b d j g
m n ñ (bm dn jñ)
s x
l ll (dl jll)
r dr
y w ġ (jy gw gġ)

i u
e ǝ o
a
by Omzinesý
29 Apr 2019 10:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread of my newest project
Replies: 30
Views: 236

Development thread of my newest project

A new project with old ingredients p t c k b d ɟ g m n ɲ (bm dn ɟɲ) s ɕ l ʎ (dl ɟʎ) ɾ (dɾ) j w ʁ (ɟj gw ɢʁ) All sonorants have a prestopped pair that appears as a consonant mutation in morphology. i u e ə o ä Length is distinctive except with /ə/. Phonotactics is the boring CVC. Long vowels only app...
by Omzinesý
28 Apr 2019 09:27
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Miršian - a Finnic conlang
Replies: 13
Views: 674

Re: Miršian - a Finnic conlang

I'm changing the sound changes a bit 1. All unstressed /o/s merge with /u/s. That happens in Estonian too. o [-stress] => u 2. All long /a:/s become /o/ (through /o:/). a [+long] => o 3. Nouns ending in /u/, both original /u/ and earlier /o/, have Genitive in /o/ which is analogy with i-e nouns.
by Omzinesý
25 Apr 2019 15:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Mishero مِسْهَرو
Replies: 29
Views: 4439

Re: Mishero مِسْهَرو

Interesting, especially the weird stuff like contrasting /ɹ/ and /ɻ/, having only one retroflex consonant, having creaky and breathy voice in a language set in Iraq, etc. I have no idea which is the standard transliteration for /ŋ/ in languages written in Arabic orthography. I used غ just because i...
by Omzinesý
25 Apr 2019 15:36
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 6969
Views: 841185

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

What languages other than Celtic have word-initial consonant mutations expressing grammatical meanings? Celtic langs cannot be that unique it only appears in them.
by Omzinesý
18 Apr 2019 15:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Mishero مِسْهَرو
Replies: 29
Views: 4439

Re: Mishero مِسْهَرو

Action nominal constructions (ANCs) ANCs of intransitive verbs have their argument as a genitive modifier (1). Transitive verbs have their objects in as a genitive modifier (2) and their subjects as a by-agent in Ablative (3). (1) gep-ha nip-aa man-DEF swim-AN 'man's swimming' (2) kiteeb-ha keteb-ee...
by Omzinesý
16 Apr 2019 17:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Spiú - A monosyllabic descendant of Spanish
Replies: 7
Views: 428

Re: Spiú - A monosyllabic descendant of Spanish

Nice, a Romlang that has something new!

Paradigms of all verb forms could be listed for every conjugation to make the grammar easier to read and understand.
by Omzinesý
16 Apr 2019 16:36
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language
Replies: 4
Views: 219

Re: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language

Copular constructions There is a copular verb béd 'is SENSORY'. bád 'is EGO' bíd 'is REPORTATIVE' There is also a fourth epistemic category for general facts that don't need any epistemic conformance, i.e. 'everybody knows'. búd 'is FACT' The past stem of the copula is kós 'was SENSORY' kás 'was EGO...
by Omzinesý
15 Apr 2019 14:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language
Replies: 4
Views: 219

Re: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language

Nice. An egophoric evidential seems new to me, though maybe it's already a thing in a natlang. It certainly makes sense. That evidential distinction will disappear as soon as speakers merge those unstressed vowels, though. Not to say that ever has to happen. Also, what is that noun that's being dec...
by Omzinesý
13 Apr 2019 09:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language
Replies: 4
Views: 219

Re: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language

Consonant inventory

p t c k <p t c k>
b d ɟ <b d j> (d and sometimes b two are flapped between vowels)
m n ŋ (coda only) <m n ng>
v ɹ j ɣ~ʁ <v r y g>
l <l>
s ɕ <s x>
by Omzinesý
13 Apr 2019 09:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language
Replies: 4
Views: 219

Omzinesý's quick triconsonantal language

So this is a quick project, not a real speed lang with time limits though. Stressed syllables have five vowels: i, e, ä, o, u Unstressed syllables have three vowels: ɪ̈, ə, ɐ (some allophony of frontness/backness may appear) Verbs Verbs have their stress on the first syllable. In a "normal" CVCVC wo...
by Omzinesý
12 Apr 2019 16:56
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14769
Views: 1257761

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I thank Zekoslav, Creyeditor, Ná'oolkiłí & Frislander for answering my question on consonant clusters.
I still didn't find illumination but thinking about what you said may bring it closer.
by Omzinesý
12 Apr 2019 16:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 14769
Views: 1257761

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

holbuzvala wrote:
11 Apr 2019 18:00
Also, what’s a way that an applicative might arise?
Serial verbs/converbs is one option.

I [write letter][use pen]
=> I [write-use letter pen]

Then morpho-phonological erosion just takes place and u have an applicative affix.