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by Zythros Jubi
20 Dec 2019 19:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Replies: 103
Views: 2091

Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad

Well, I'm not certain where my ancestors came from; it is complex and definitely from many places. As for the Chuvash word for 'six', its <ultă>, so tï is usually unaffected except when preceded by an a? However, according to Agyagási and Erdal's The Khazar Language , the diphthong *ia comes from a ...
by Zythros Jubi
20 Dec 2019 07:24
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Replies: 103
Views: 2091

Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad

In addition, Ligeti also mentioned the two roots in Hungarian with <z> corresponding to PT *gd, namely búza "wheat" <*bugdaj (cf. Chuvash <pări>) and túzok "bustard" <*togdaq. One may expect *gd>*ɣð>*wz but whether Chuvash had z>r is a mystery; personally I assume it was *r2 that changed to *z rathe...
by Zythros Jubi
20 Dec 2019 06:57
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Replies: 103
Views: 2091

Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad

this makes it difficult to distinguish 3rd possessive nominal forms and dative forms from the stem Actually, my conception of a Pannonian Oghur language would involve a confusion of the a/e harmony and the i harmony due to vowel-lowering, causing the latter to be taken over by the former. This woul...
by Zythros Jubi
19 Dec 2019 15:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Replies: 103
Views: 2091

Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad

Thanks for your suggestions. I mainly got https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/115UQCaSSyxpXdanKe0vGTDGTeBm2nivN?usp=sharing from Conworkshop user Lme15 (see his conlang https://conworkshop.com/view_language.php?l=QLK , which is inspired by Volga Bulgar), but there's not much material about this c...
by Zythros Jubi
15 Dec 2019 13:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Replies: 103
Views: 2091

Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad

The Eskel language has some peculiarities not found in most or all Turkic languages, including some traits of Balkan Sprachbund: 1.Stem-initial stress and vowel reduction; 2.The gradual loss of vowel harmony (not shown in spelling) due to vowel reduction; 3.The palatalization contrast due to Slavic ...
by Zythros Jubi
11 Dec 2019 08:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary
Replies: 16
Views: 485

Re: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary

How to pronounce the consonants c and ts? Could you please introduce your orthography?
by Zythros Jubi
07 Dec 2019 09:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Replies: 103
Views: 2091

Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad

First of all, I should clarify the Proto-Turkic (PT) symbols that I use here, and give a preliminary analysis of its phonology, at least those dialects ancestral to West Old Turkic (hereafter WOT). All Turkic languages have vowel harmony, but it is not clear whether the original system was based on ...
by Zythros Jubi
04 Dec 2019 04:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary
Replies: 16
Views: 485

What non-Slavic languages have a Slavic-style aspect system? BTW, I'm considering making a Eastern Romance lang in west Carpathians, e.g. Moravian-Slovakian Vlach, what suggestions do you have? (I don't want to make another Slezan/Slevan)
by Zythros Jubi
03 Dec 2019 11:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Replies: 103
Views: 2091

Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad

Internal History: Eskêl is the language spoken in most of Covasna County, eastern Harghita County, around Bicaz in Neamț county, and western Bacău County *here*, by the Eskêl (associated with Szekelys and Szekely Csangos *there*) people descended from Avars, Bulgars, Pechenegs and Cumans (with eleme...
by Zythros Jubi
13 Nov 2019 09:24
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: How to make an R-Turkic language?
Replies: 7
Views: 779

Re: How to make an R-Turkic language?

Details of diachronics is pretty much undecided; espcially when it comes to loanwords, it is difficult to determine what sound changes should this stratum of loanwords should take (e.g. Middle High German, Old East Slavic, Cuman).
by Zythros Jubi
11 Nov 2019 03:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Goþesch Razde
Replies: 59
Views: 5536

Re: Goþesch Razde

Why are there so many schwas, just like West Germanic languages and Danish, in such an isolated environment from other Germanic languages; is this realistic?
by Zythros Jubi
07 Nov 2019 07:50
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: How to make a Celtic lostlang?
Replies: 16
Views: 475

Re: How to make a Celtic lostlang?

According to the author of Brittonica : Brittonica (Brittoníca) is a reconstructed form of late Common Brythonic dating to about the early 6th century, the time of King Arthur, shortly before the loss of final syllables led to the development of the earliest daughter languages (ancestors of Welsh, B...
by Zythros Jubi
07 Nov 2019 04:41
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Guess The Language!!!
Replies: 3210
Views: 406642

Re: Guess The Language!!!

Wakashan?
by Zythros Jubi
06 Nov 2019 07:41
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: How to make a Celtic lostlang?
Replies: 16
Views: 475

Re: How to make a Celtic lostlang?

Actually, I've seen the page about Galeiga before, but I think its aesthetics not impressing enough. Maybe its phonology should become more similar to Iberian Romance languages, especially phonotactics. I originally intended to imitate Latin-to-Galician sound changes, but that's also boring; I shoul...
by Zythros Jubi
04 Nov 2019 17:57
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: How to make a Celtic lostlang?
Replies: 16
Views: 475

How to make a Celtic lostlang?

What would a Celtic lostlang in Galicia look like? Galicia was a destination for Britons (e.g. Insular Celts) in early Middle Ages like Brittany used to be; however, I wonder whether there were any Continental Celtic speaker left there. Another problem is how would it have been influenced by Ibero-R...
by Zythros Jubi
04 Nov 2019 15:38
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: How to make an R-Turkic language?
Replies: 7
Views: 779

Re: How to make an R-Turkic language?

Maybe I should start a Scratchpad in Conlang section instead?
by Zythros Jubi
03 Nov 2019 10:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Jäzik Panúski
Replies: 52
Views: 8703

Re: Jäzik Panúski

Is it possible that *ü was possibly along the lines of [u~ʉ] and *u was [ʊ]?
by Zythros Jubi
31 Oct 2019 04:56
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Guess The Language!!!
Replies: 3210
Views: 406642

Re: Guess The Language!!!

Salishan?
by Zythros Jubi
31 Oct 2019 04:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Zeko-Romance development thread
Replies: 21
Views: 4199

Re: Zeko-Romance development thread

How do you like the vowel system of Tundrian and its evolution? Tundrian is the only descendant of Latin that preserved the distinction between original short and long vowels until quite late in its history (9th-10th century AD). Although this distinction has by now disappeared in pronunciation, Tun...
by Zythros Jubi
31 Oct 2019 04:10
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: False cognates
Replies: 704
Views: 187856

Re: False cognates

Old Chinese 俞 /lo/(reconstructed) "to approve" v.s. Hiri Motu lo "yes" English LOL v.s. Dutch lol "fun"(attested as early as 1560s) v.s. Welsh lol "nonsense, ridiculous" add one to the list of false cognates: Old Chinese 愉 "happy, pleased, delightful", the pronounciation of 愉 in Old Chinese has bee...