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by WeepingElf
06 Aug 2018 21:09
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
Replies: 91
Views: 49740

Re: If natlangs were conlangs

Whoever made the Dravidian and Australian languages must have believed in Lemuria, with both groups using essentially the same consonant inventory - and a pretty weird one at that, with way too many coronal POAs and no fricatives. At least, he went different ways when creating the vowels.
by WeepingElf
06 Aug 2018 20:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6614
Views: 987054

Re: What did you accomplish today?

An idea for the zero grade: how about making it toneless. Tone languages often have toneless syllables that get their tone from somewhere else. You could argue that the zero grade gives you just the tonal combination of onset+coda then, or only one of them if the other one is missing. If there woul...
by WeepingElf
06 Aug 2018 19:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6614
Views: 987054

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I often find the answer to a conlang design question late at night while waiting to fall asleep. Last night, I got an idea of how tones work in Lo Dang, a monosyllabic, isolating and tonal IE language spoken in northwestern China. Lo Dang has six tones - low, high, falling, rising, falling-rising an...
by WeepingElf
05 Aug 2018 22:14
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: False friends and other unfortunate coincidences
Replies: 737
Views: 141224

Re: False friends and other unfortunate coincidences

Avestan Ahura Mazda "The good and main deity of the Zoroastrianism" and Sanskrit Asura "supernatural beings that are antagonistic to the deities" Also Avestan daeva 'evil spirit' vs. Sanskrit deva 'god' English black and English blank Also Cologne German bläck 'blank, bare'. There is a Schlager ban...
by WeepingElf
23 Jul 2018 21:20
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6614
Views: 987054

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I have laid down the sound changes for Proto-Albic, and made some adjustments to those for Proto-Hercynian and Proto-Alpianic. I am quite happy with the results, though I won't rule out further tweaks in the future.
by WeepingElf
11 Jul 2018 21:01
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: Music in my con world, how about yours?
Replies: 30
Views: 15297

Re: Music in my con world, how about yours?

What I know yet about Old Albic music can be found here. Impressionally, I am thinking of a mix of Celtic, Sardinian and Georgian folk music.
by WeepingElf
07 Jul 2018 19:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 5596
Views: 1297405

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

There is something like that reconstructed for PIE. Voiceless stops do not occur in roots together with breathy-voiced stops, a pattern that becomes a voicing harmony rule under the glottalic hypothesis (other phonemes than pulmonic stops have no voicing distinction, and are transparent). However, t...
by WeepingElf
05 Jul 2018 23:01
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Surprising cognates
Replies: 93
Views: 38410

Re: Surprising cognates

There is this chiastic pattern in the two biggest Germanic languages:

:deu: Schaum 'foam' ~ :eng: scum
:deu: Feim 'scum' ~ :eng: foam

Though Feim is now obsolete in Standard German, but the derived adjective abgefeimt 'cunning' is still in use.
by WeepingElf
05 Jul 2018 16:11
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Avarin (and other Tolkienian languages)
Replies: 11
Views: 905

Re: Avarin (and other Tolkienian languages)

I think Kinn-lai must be branched with Kindi because they both share the same delabialisation, with Kinn-Lai additionally seeing lenition of the *d (like that seen in Penni ) and the accretion of the *-lai element. The -lai element is definitely a distinct word originally, meaning "people". Yes - c...
by WeepingElf
04 Jul 2018 21:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Altlang Ideas Discussion
Replies: 65
Views: 9413

Re: Altlang Ideas Discussion

I have now set up a new thread for the Avarin discussion.
by WeepingElf
04 Jul 2018 21:44
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Avarin (and other Tolkienian languages)
Replies: 11
Views: 905

Avarin (and other Tolkienian languages)

This has come up in the altlangs thread where it does not really belong (Middle-earth is not an alternative history), so I shall open a new thread for it. The Ardalambion page on Avarin lists six names of Avari tribes which are all cognates of Q. Quendi : Kindi , Cuind , Hwenti , Windan , Kinn-lai ,...
by WeepingElf
03 Jul 2018 19:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Altlang Ideas Discussion
Replies: 65
Views: 9413

Re: Altlang Ideas Discussion

Why turn ablaut into tonal ablaut? Why not? Well, it seems like taking a language and removing what makes it what it is. It also seems like randomly picking two things to swap, even though they've got nothing to do with one another other than the word 'ablaut'. And how? Wouldn't it be more interest...
by WeepingElf
02 Jul 2018 22:06
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Altlang Ideas Discussion
Replies: 65
Views: 9413

Re: Altlang Ideas Discussion

Why turn ablaut into tonal ablaut? Why not? And how? Wouldn't it be more interesting to keep ablaut, but add tone the normal way? The idea is that PIE *e gives high tone, and PIE *o low tone. There will be further factors that contribute to tone, so there won't be a simple high/low 2-tone system, b...
by WeepingElf
02 Jul 2018 20:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Altlang Ideas Discussion
Replies: 65
Views: 9413

Re: Altlang Ideas Discussion

Note that Avarin isn't a language, but just any Elvish language that isn't.... I can't remember the word, whichever the [Noldor+Vanyar+Teleri] group is. Eldarin. But Avarin languages aren't really altlangs . At least not in the sense I understand this word - languages spoken in altenative histories...
by WeepingElf
23 Jun 2018 19:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Getic
Replies: 20
Views: 11635

Re: Getic

Good stuff! But by 'oblique' in your last post, do you mean 'oxytonic'?
by WeepingElf
22 Jun 2018 18:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Getic
Replies: 20
Views: 11635

Re: Getic

Looks nice and interesting so far. Keep on!
by WeepingElf
11 Jun 2018 20:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 6614
Views: 987054

Re: What did you accomplish today?

So arik shyulargyuph 'inkhorn word' is itself an inkhorn word? Yeah!
by WeepingElf
09 Jun 2018 13:18
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: False friends and other unfortunate coincidences
Replies: 737
Views: 141224

Re: False friends and other unfortunate coincidences

:por: social democratico 'centre-right' (in politics) vs. :deu: sozialdemokratisch 'centre-left' (in politics)
by WeepingElf
21 May 2018 14:53
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: why is it that in many fantasy stories, humans are the focus?
Replies: 58
Views: 11069

Re: why is it that in many fantasy stories, humans are the focus?

Speaking of my own project, The Elvenpath , the main reason why my Elves are humans, nothing more and nothing less, is: I want to express my views of the human condition and the meaning of life through the project. And that demands that the characters are human , because with non-human characters, ...
by WeepingElf
20 May 2018 16:56
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: why is it that in many fantasy stories, humans are the focus?
Replies: 58
Views: 11069

Re: why is it that in many fantasy stories, humans are the focus?

Speaking of my own project, The Elvenpath , the main reason why my Elves are humans, nothing more and nothing less, is: I want to express my views of the human condition and the meaning of life through the project. And that demands that the characters are human , because with non-human characters, I...