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- 27 Jul 2019 21:28
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Wambaya, an FWO natlang with SVCs
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Wambaya, an FWO natlang with SVCs
Wambaya is a Free-Word-Order natural non-Pama-Nyungan language with Serial-Verb Constructions. It is discussed in detail in Rachel Nordlinger’s doctoral work, which IMO has such intensive fieldwork it’s more like a Habilitationsschrift than like an ordinary dissertation, but whatever. (Her paper can...
- 27 Jul 2019 07:21
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
- Replies: 24
- Views: 7482
Re: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
https://minerva-access.unimelb.edu.au/bitstream/handle/11343/217030/Wambaya-fest-rev.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y says Wambaya has free word-order and serial-verb constructions and allows discontinuous constituents. It might be an inspiration for ways to achieve what you desire. In some SVCs in Wamba...
- 27 Jul 2019 07:03
- Forum: Everything Else
- Topic: Forum News discussion/feedback thread
- Replies: 310
- Views: 220916
Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread
You may want to ban any user with the substring *loli* in their screenname. They’re probably trying to rope in pedophiles.
- 27 Jul 2019 06:57
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2951
Re: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
akam chinjir on the ZBB recommended we google the search string “nonconfigurational serial verb”. Doing so they (and I) found references to a language called Wambaya.
I haven’t read about it yet but it looks pretty relevant.
I haven’t read about it yet but it looks pretty relevant.
- 26 Jul 2019 20:43
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2951
Re: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
Although I should add I failed to mention that a verb can have more than one verbal noun, and it is possible that one is feminine and the other one or two are masculine, say. That might, or might not, be an “oops”. Isn’t it generally true for nouns that their gender doesn’t change as they decline? ...
- 26 Jul 2019 13:18
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2951
Re: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
VERB CLASSES! BECAUSE VERBS CAN BE MASCULINE OR FEMININE TOO! Thank you eldin, yes, that was helpful. My first thought is that this is kind of attested in Arabic. Verbal nouns (akin to infinitives in European languages) take a gender, quite unpredictably masculine or feminine among basic verbs but ...
- 26 Jul 2019 04:54
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2951
Re: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
What do you mean by "concordial verb classes"? I had quick look Lao Kou's Gearthnuns thread and I couldn't identify anything that could be called that. (That thread is very long though, and it's likely it is there somewhere.) See https://listserv.brown.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0710a&L=CONLANG&X=O31D1CE...
- 25 Jul 2019 22:38
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2951
FreeWordOrder SerialVerb Concordial VerbClass
@Lao Kou, you may remember something relevant on CONLANG-L from Sep and Oct 2007. Does anyone know of any natlang(s) that have or had both free word-order and serial verb constructions? If so, what were these FWO SVC languages? And what strategies do or did they use to say which participant-nouns go...
- 25 Jul 2019 07:11
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
- Replies: 5852
- Views: 1389389
Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Palatial sounds are made with the tongue

I assume autocorrect “corrected” palatal to palatial?
- 25 Jul 2019 03:32
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
- Replies: 24
- Views: 7482
Re: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
BTW if you want to allow interruptible phrases, where two verb-phrases in the same clause could each have a piece of the other between their own first part and last part, or their own verb and object, then it might be good to use double-marking; mark the heads to give clues which dependents they go ...
- 25 Jul 2019 02:42
- Forum: Teach & Share
- Topic: Tgnàmm Bôta - Emilian lessons and resources
- Replies: 6
- Views: 15273
Re: Tgnàmm Bôta - Emilian lessons and resources
I tried to send him a Private Message but it's stuck in my "outbox." How do I send messages that are in "outbox" ? I believe that means it’s been sent but hasn’t been opened by the recipient yet. That’s right. If he hasn’t signed on to the board in a couple of months, odds are the quickest way to c...
- 24 Jul 2019 18:53
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Guess The Language!!!
- Replies: 3205
- Views: 399029
Re: Guess The Language!!!
Is it Finno-Japonic?
- 23 Jul 2019 20:17
- Forum: Everything Else
- Topic: A weird confession regarding conworlding...
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3822
Re: A weird confession regarding conworlding...
I have something to confess, but I can’t think of a precise way to word it right now. I’ll try again later.
- 23 Jul 2019 01:12
- Forum: Teach & Share
- Topic: Tgnàmm Bôta - Emilian lessons and resources
- Replies: 6
- Views: 15273
Re: Tgnàmm Bôta - Emilian lessons and resources
Where did this thread go? I need more help with mudnes Alessio last posted 11 months ago, and was last active on this board 3 months ago. ————— This is your first post! Welcome to the CBB! Tell us a little about yourself? If you want? We have an “introductions” thread where you can do that, and als...
Re: Nlokian 5
I think what “head” means may depend on which theoretical school the grammarian belongs to. The definition I was thinking of is frequently used and is this: If a word in the phrase is such that the entire phrase is the same part-of-speech as the word, then that word is the head-word of the phrase. S...
- 22 Jul 2019 07:49
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
- Replies: 24
- Views: 7482
Re: Different Way of Doing Adpositions - help request
IF you have a clause with two verbs and two object-nouns, and the nouns are the same case, same pragmatic status (definite/indefinite and/or specific/nonspecific or referential/nonreferential), gender, number, person, and anything else a verb could agree with; and one verb and one object-noun go tog...
- 20 Jul 2019 17:45
- Forum: Everything Else
- Topic: What have you been reading lately? (non-linguistic ed.)
- Replies: 51
- Views: 20466
Re: What have you been reading lately? (non-linguistic ed.)
@brblues:
I’ve read or started all of those.
I read Embassytown and yes, found it good.
The only one you’ve mentioned that I started, but haven’t yet finished, is “Railsea”. I’m not sure I will finish it. No particular reason.
I’ve read or started all of those.
I read Embassytown and yes, found it good.
The only one you’ve mentioned that I started, but haven’t yet finished, is “Railsea”. I’m not sure I will finish it. No particular reason.
- 20 Jul 2019 17:38
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Is diachronic conlanging worth it?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3366
Re: Is diachronic conlanging worth it?
.... However, I think most would agree from experience that the quickest and easiest way to make it look like you've done the diachronics is just to do the diachronics... Of course, as dormouse points out, "diachronics" doesn't necessarily mean "proto-language". Doing diachronics does imply a proto...
- 19 Jul 2019 15:36
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Is diachronic conlanging worth it?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3366
Re: Is diachronic conlanging worth it?
It is up to you.