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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Salmoneus » 05 Sep 2013 11:25

AureusFulgens wrote:I COMMAND YOU TO LIVE! LIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVE!

(I had a friend once who was into necromancy. No idea what happened to dear old Annatar after we finished with those rings.)

Once I had the idea of a culture where everyone was expected to be capable of improvising a short poem on the spot, particularly for the purpose of insulting someone else. Employing clever metaphors and colorful language and such would be good form, while using standard curse words would be considered lack of creativity: better to say "Your face is like the three-day-old leftovers of a lion's dinner!" than "Your face is f***ing ugly!" Rather than duels with weapons, disputes would be settled by public showdowns of improvised poetry.

What do you think?
This culture is called "Anglo-Saxon England", by any chance?

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Post by AureusFulgens » 05 Sep 2013 13:07

Salmoneus wrote:
AureusFulgens wrote:I COMMAND YOU TO LIVE! LIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVE!

(I had a friend once who was into necromancy. No idea what happened to dear old Annatar after we finished with those rings.)

Once I had the idea of a culture where everyone was expected to be capable of improvising a short poem on the spot, particularly for the purpose of insulting someone else. Employing clever metaphors and colorful language and such would be good form, while using standard curse words would be considered lack of creativity: better to say "Your face is like the three-day-old leftovers of a lion's dinner!" than "Your face is f***ing ugly!" Rather than duels with weapons, disputes would be settled by public showdowns of improvised poetry.

What do you think?
This culture is called "Anglo-Saxon England", by any chance?
Are you serious? Argh, I should have realized that an idea this cool must have been used somewhere already. (On the other hand, that does show that it's not an unrealistic idea.)

So, to answer your question, I had no idea the old English did this. I'm intrigued, though. Is there somewhere I could read more about this topic?
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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Salmoneus » 05 Sep 2013 18:19

It's normally called "flyting". Big anglo-saxon thing. Had a revival in Scotland in the late middle ages. Never really went away among the poetic classes, and is apparently quite common in rap culture today. Leading to such lines as this one from an online article: "My discussion will center on passages primarily from Beowulf, plus The Battle of Maldon, and Waldere; representative soundings; a toast version of Shine and the sinking of the Titanic as told to Langston Hughes; and gangsta raps from Public Enemy, Eazy-E, and Ice Cube."

The classic Scottish example is "The Flyting of Dumbar and Kennedie", a 70-odd stanza warring of insults, performed before the king, and long considered one of the high points of Scottish literature. According to wikipediea, "Dunbar characterises Kennedy as speaking a barbarous Highland dialect, as being physically hideous and withered like a sort of living memento mori, as being poor and hungry, and of having intercourse with mares. Kennedy, by contrast, suggests that Dunbar was descended from Beelzebub, is a dwarf, and has no control of his bowel movements".

Of course, not every Saxon was good at flyting - and professional flyting was left to the bards. But flyting contests were a big form of entertainment, with everyone from royals to local peasants having a go.

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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Shemtov » 10 Sep 2013 08:27

Heres an idea:
a conculture where conlanging is the national sport.
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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by AureusFulgens » 10 Sep 2013 20:07

Shemtov wrote:Heres an idea:
a conculture where conlanging is the national sport.
I'm imagining a stadium full of thousands of people, watching in awestruck silence as a dozen people on the field sit at desks frantically creating phonologies and describing syntax. (I actually have a little experience with this sort of thing - I do competitive math. I'd love to live in a culture where math was the national sport.)

I think it has promise. But writing about such a culture could be painful. First you have to create their language, then the languages they create in their language. Dear Gauss, recursive conlanging.

If you do this, definitely tell us about it.
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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Chelsara » 24 Nov 2013 08:43

I've had this idea sitting away in my "con" folder on my laptop for a while...

The "masters" and the "forgetters." The forgetters were very advanced. They had an alliance, but the forgetters were decimated during a battle so the masters conquered them.

The masters stole the forgetters’ tech and knowledge, and made it so remaining forgetters live very long and are easily made to forget.

Made so they forget everything (customs, history, everything but how to fight, language, and basics) whenever the masters want them to (typically before/after a battle/war, at times daily) so they can be strong and unaffected by the past.

They have one day (the "moonlit day") that they remember everything that happens for 24 hours, and they can learn quickly.
Fight for the masters when they go to war

One forgetter found documents of all of their history and culture during his moonlit day, so he remembered it all and taught others on their moonlit days.

Once a good portion of the forgetters' population knew their past, they had a revolution against the masters. They used their tech against them and won.

Their population began to grow, but their lifetime shortened (longer than it was before the masters, shorter than during). They still have residual effects of forgetting since they had their memories wiped very regularly, so they tend to have a little short term memory loss but learn quickly still. Now they write journals a lot and document everything

Some tech was lost over years of disuse/in the revolution/memory of how to use it lost, less advanced than before/during the masters.

I think it's a really interesting concept, but now I need to do something with it...

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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Yačay256 » 25 Nov 2013 05:30

First idea, for really alien conworlds: Have alternate energy sources for conbiota - like chemosynthesis as opposed to photosynthesis - been discussed in any detail yet?

Another idea, for Earth-like conworlds: A conworld where more than one civilization industrialized more or less indigenously, at least at first; somewhat like Muġal India, Late Imperial China as well as the UK having their own, effectively indigenous industrial revolutions.
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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Ahzoh » 25 Nov 2013 06:44

AureusFulgens wrote:
Shemtov wrote:Heres an idea:
a conculture where conlanging is the national sport.
I'm imagining a stadium full of thousands of people, watching in awestruck silence as a dozen people on the field sit at desks frantically creating phonologies and describing syntax. (I actually have a little experience with this sort of thing - I do competitive math. I'd love to live in a culture where math was the national sport.)

I think it has promise. But writing about such a culture could be painful. First you have to create their language, then the languages they create in their language. Dear Gauss, recursive conlanging.

If you do this, definitely tell us about it.

Math sport?
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Or something like that.
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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Heptrion » 22 Dec 2013 16:33

Yačay256 wrote:First idea, for really alien conworlds: Have alternate energy sources for conbiota - like chemosynthesis as opposed to photosynthesis - been discussed in any detail yet?

Another idea, for Earth-like conworlds: A conworld where more than one civilization industrialized more or less indigenously, at least at first; somewhat like Muġal India, Late Imperial China as well as the UK having their own, effectively indigenous industrial revolutions.
Electrosynthesis and/or Magnetosynthesis would be interesting to work out; specially since with such organisms one could potentially build a whole circuit or even full-fledged machinery out of living creatures.

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Post by eldin raigmore » 22 Dec 2013 19:57

Heptrion, did you used to be Tropyllium? If not, are you related?

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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

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eldin raigmore wrote:Heptrion, did you used to be Tropyllium? If not, are you related?
No to both, why?

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Post by eldin raigmore » 23 Dec 2013 18:22

Heptrion wrote:
eldin raigmore wrote:Heptrion, did you used to be Tropyllium? If not, are you related?
No to both, why?
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Post by Egerius » 26 Dec 2013 01:31

I had this rather crude idea for the past few months, which developed out of the need to give my romlang a home, but saying "a con-Earth is too much falsified history and not individual enough".

(The "original plan" is found below the TL; DR version.)

Short: A planet, a few lightyears away from earth, inhabits a few earthly species, of which two became sentient by subsequent genetic modification.
The first are chinchillas, living as a vegetarian, rodent version of the Romans (later, a Judicature, and at last, a very soft and not-so-paranoid version of pre-1973-GDR socialism [:)] ). They speak the dialects of Romanz as their mother tongue from the beginning.
The other ones are descendants of dogs (named "Canomans"), resembling Germanic tribes (later, they resemble pre-Great-War Germans), mostly carnivore and under a strict patriarchal kingdom, speaking a Germanic tongue.

The TL; DR version
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In 2193, a few people try to save chinchillas from extinction, using an automated spacecraft to send 32 hand-selected couples, bringing them onto a perfectly suited planet, which was abandoned four years before because of unknown reasons.
Another probe containing dogs is let into space almost four years later, aiming for the same destination. Meanwhile, the rate of evolutionary processed is increased by as-yet-to-be-explored mechanisms.

A few hundred thousand years later, the first (attested) chinchilla-culture sees the light of the day on the south-west of the largest continent, mirroring the Roman republic.
The inhabitants are vegetarian, but use agriculture and stock breeding to get milk, wheat and eggs (meat is used for sacrifice and Danegeld to the Canoman tribe in the north east).
Administrative and literary records are made with a reed pen on a papyrus-like surface, before vellum is used, which is a consequence of mass-immigration of Canoman members which seek asylum from tyranny a few centuries later. A clone of the Roman alphabet is used, with no fixed writing direction until a large quantity of writings are released (except for epitaphs and private letters), due to a high number of left-handed individuals.
Most population can read and had at least elementary education, down to the poorest being.
At this point, the literary language is a slightly less ambitious form of Classical Latin, as records inside the remains of the first probe are written in this language (etched into gold and other durable materials, with micro etching used to store much more information, including sounds and pictures).

The Canoman tribes use wood and parchment with a runic script (for rituals, with laws and prose being transmitted mostly orally), eat meat and wheat products instead of plants and occasionally raid northern cities of the chinchilla culture. Their head of the tribe is a gruesome, dynastic, male monarchy, often violent and mostly illiterate (except the priests and most women). Occasionally, weak individuals are murdered, leading to refugees heading the Chinchilla Empire.
The Carnoman's probe is transporting similar contents in a Germanic language (I have yet to decide whether it should be more Gothic or Norse).

With time, the Canoman refugees are recognized as citizens of Buonavalle (the capital of the empire) and build an army to conquer and civilize the barbarian tribes.

[There is a hole to fill, with a switch to monotheism and a religion close to Christianity - with the question if meat is forbidden altogether or only when the source decomposes.]
The medieval equivalent sees the emergence of a democratic Judicature with the rodents and a friendlier monarchy with the canines; first steps to alliance are being made, missionary chinchillas bring rising literacy to the Canoman kingdom, while those bring martial arts to the former.
As time passes, the alliance grows stronger and discoveries from both cultures lead to renaissance and enlightenment.

[Another hole in history...]
The modern age leads to a friendly version of the iron curtain; while not entirely in distrust, the two nations are spinning in opposite directions at the end.
The Canomans are ruled by a representative (but weak) monarchy, which eventually gives up to uprisings and a tension between socialist, pro-rodent activists and right-wing 'Members of the Wolf', essentially culture purists who persecute the 'native' chinchilla population. As these win, a dictatorship wreaks havoc on the economy.
The Rodent Republic experiences a socialist revolution, with gender and race equality.
As the persecuted arrive and the Canomans 'bleed out', a Great War seals the fate of partition.

Technological advance speeds up, the states cease to cooperate for the most part.
The rodents still have a socialist republic, enriched with a slight touch of market economy.
Meanwhile, the canines see the downsides of a strict capitalist system and are one more time dependent of the vegetarian side, opening the gates and reforming their country: This would equal present-day Earth.

The future: Time travel is invented in this world and three citizens of the Social Democratic Union of Rodent Republics travel back to Earth in early 2014.
The crew aims to take the 'creator of their world' with them for unknown reasons (officially, they want him to "see the result of leaving his planet in their hands").
Close to hysteria, the baffled person enters their TEDRES (their version of a TARDIS [:P] ).
As the machine takes off, the astonished human has to lay down in a special coffin...
The original, obsolete draft
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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Lambuzhao » 02 Mar 2014 23:09

eldin raigmore wrote:So OK, I've been thinking of worlds where biology needs more than 64 amino-acids.
There are two ways that give you roughly the same increased capacity in the genetic code:
  1. If you keep your codons three nucleotides long as they are in real life, but increase the number of available nucleotide bases from four to six, you can have up to 6^3 = 216 different codes, counting the "stop" codes.
  2. If you keep the same four nucleotide bases we have in real life, but lengthen the codons to be four nucleotide-bases long instead of just three, you can have up to 4^4 = 256 different codes, counting the "stop" codes.
So far I've made most progress on the four-base codons.

I have 116 amino-acids; I haven't decided what they'll be yet, but I'm sure that wouldn't be the most interesting part of the story anyway.

The "stop" codons are any codon with at least three Gs; GGGN, GGNG, GNGG, or NGGG, where N stands for any of the four nucleotide bases, A or C or G or T. (In real life, in the genetic code used in the nucleus of eukaryotic cells, there are three stop codons, TAA and TAG and TGA.)

Every gene ends with three consecutive stop codons, STOP-STOP-STOP. (In real life every gene ends with two consecutive stop codons, STOP-STOP.)

The consensus "start" sequence is:
tatt tctg aaat acag gagt gcgg cact cccg
where a lower-case letter means "it's usually that nucleotide-base, but sometimes may be some other nucleotide-base".
(In real life there's a different "consensus start sequence" for prokaryotes than for eukaryotes. For eukaryotes, or at least for animals, or at least for vertebrates, or at least for mammals, the consensus start sequence is
... g ccg ccR ATG GNN ...
, where R means "either purine", that is, either A or G. The first codon translated is the ATG, which stands for methionine. So the first amino-acid of any protein, when it's first tranlated, is N-formyl-methionine. Elsewhere in the gene ATG stands for ordinary, non-formylated methionine.)

Note that "my" fictional consensus "start" sequence contains a GCGG "stop" codon. So it's just the opposite of the Windows operating system; in Windows you have to go to the START menu to figure out how to stop the computer, while in "my" genetic code in order to start a gene you have to include a STOP codon. Translation starts with CACT CCCG; so when it's first translated every protein starts with the same two amino-acids.

The point of such a long start sequence is to unambiguously establish the reading-frame. Out of the thirty-two positions in the sequence, the most base positions that can match up when it's shifted to overlap its original position, is twelve; if it's shifted two or eight positions, twelve of the bases match where they're shifted to. Second prize is if it's shifted one or three or four or sixteen positions, in which case eight of the bases match up to where they're shifted to. To sum up, if two sequences match the start-sequence consensus pretty well, they can't overlap; if two sequences overlap, they can't both match the start-sequence consensus.

The point of having
tatt tctg aaat acag gagt gcgg cact cccg
instead of
TATT TCTG AAAT ACAG GAGT GCGG CACT CCCG
is that I don't want a change of just one nucleotide in the start sequence to completely knock out an entire gene. Thirty-two bases is a bit long to be really sure not even one base will get mutated.
But I've done the arithmetic, and, if the odds of each single base mutating (independently of any other mutation) to a different base are one-in-a-thousand or fewer (in real life it's between one in 10^4 and one in 10^9), and an organism has 30,000 genes each starting with a consensus start-sequence, then the odds that even one of those start-sequences will have four or more mutations is so low that Excel displays it as 0; in other words, less than about 10^-14.

The point of having thirteen different stop codes, namely GGGG and any other tetranucleotide that differs from it in only one position, is that if just one base in a stop codon gets mutated, there's a good chance the mutant codon will also be a stop codon.
If genes end with a sequence of two or three consecutive STOPs, then both (or all three) of them would have to be mutated for the translation to run on after the gene was supposed to end, and start translating the DNA after the end of the gene and sticking it onto the end of the forming protein.
I decided to end genes with three STOPs instead of just two, because I wanted a STOP to be read somewhere in the end-sequence even if the reading-frame shifted. So even if none of the three STOP codons is GGGG, even if the reading-frame is shifted, the reading mechanism will read at least one STOP codon in the end-sequence.

Note that the first thirteen places of the START sequence contain eleven "weak" nucleotides (6 Ts and 5 As) and only two "strong" nucleotides (a C and a G); it's AT-rich and CG-poor, so the two strands of the DNA will comparatively easily spontaneously "melt" apart there. OTOH the last seventeen places contain thirteen "strong" nucleotides (7 Gs and 6 Cs) and only four "weak" nucleotides (2 As and 2 Ts); it's CG-rich and AT-poor. So the strands won't easily "melt" apart from each other there.
Cleaning up my old sci-mags, I found this...
http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/article00835.html

WHAT THE HELL! as in
:?: [O.O] :?:
:!:

As in...ahem...

This might be helpful for your exo-genetics.
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Post by eldin raigmore » 03 Mar 2014 21:14

Lambuzhao wrote:Cleaning up my old sci-mags, I found this...
http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/article00835.html
WHAT THE HELL! as in
:?: [O.O] :?:
:!:
As in...ahem...
This might be helpful for your exo-genetics.
[;)]
The article appears to report that:
When a piece of double-stranded DNA is being duplicated (prior to cell-division, for instance), there'll be a place where its sense-strand and its anti-sense strand have been separated from each other, and close after that a place where a new antisense-strand is coming into existence complementary to the old sense strand, and a new sense-strand is coming into existence complementary to the old antisense-strand.

The four strands, in the in vivo G-quadruplexes observed in nature and reported in the article, seem to be:
  1. the old sense strand
  2. the new anti-sense strand
  3. the new sense strand
  4. the old anti-sense strand

[hr][/hr]

Thanks very much for the link, Lambuzhao.

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Post by Thrice Xandvii » 04 Mar 2014 06:47

I was thinking of having my oceanic sea-faring somewhat-Polynesian conculture use obsidian beads as a form of currency... under the idea that their island chain would have many active, but very slow erupting volcanoes who are much like Mt. Kilauea.

Is it theoretically possible to collect lava and then manually pour it into water and create obsidian in small beads? Possibly for religious purposes initially, and then slowly transitioning into a form of currency?
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XXXVII wrote:I was thinking of having my oceanic sea-faring somewhat-Polynesian conculture use obsidian beads as a form of currency... under the idea that their island chain would have many active, but very slow erupting volcanoes who are much like Mt. Kilauea.
Meso-American culture used knives whose blades were either sting-ray "stings" or obsidian. Each blade's first use was sacred; certain ceremonies the priests performed required use of a blade that had never before been used. After that first use the (mostly) "secular" nobility (and royalty? -- anyhow, the "ahaw"s) could obtain the blade. It was prestigious to possess such a blade. The less often a blade had been used before you obtained it, and/or the more noble or sacred the last previous user had been, the more prestigious it was.
Actual Polynesian cultures used cowrie shells, and maybe other things that came from the sea such as other seashells, shark's teeth, and coral.
I don't see why obsidian "wampum" couldn't be just as plausible.

XXXVII wrote:Is it theoretically possible to collect lava and then manually pour it into water and create obsidian in small beads? Possibly for religious purposes initially, and then slowly transitioning into a form of currency?
Well, theoretically possible, I suppose; but how? What kind of container could they use that would neither burn nor melt? There are such things, of course, but which and how many are low-tech?

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Post by Shemtov » 27 Jan 2015 08:01

A dictatorship where the populace is divided up into 181 shifts each of which must spend 48 consecutive hours a year on a chemical that prevents them sleeping, while temporarily blinded listening to a booming voice says "<Name of dictator> is your master" over and over again. The 3 days where they don't do this are the day where the dictatorship was proclaimed, the day of the current dictator's birth and his ascension day.
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Re: Random Conworld idea thread

Post by Lambuzhao » 27 Jan 2015 10:20

eldin raigmore wrote:
XXXVII wrote:I was thinking of having my oceanic sea-faring somewhat-Polynesian conculture use obsidian beads as a form of currency... under the idea that their island chain would have many active, but very slow erupting volcanoes who are much like Mt. Kilauea.
Meso-American culture used knives whose blades were either sting-ray "stings" or obsidian. Each blade's first use was sacred; certain ceremonies the priests performed required use of a blade that had never before been used. After that first use the (mostly) "secular" nobility (and royalty? -- anyhow, the "ahaw"s) could obtain the blade. It was prestigious to possess such a blade. The less often a blade had been used before you obtained it, and/or the more noble or sacred the last previous user had been, the more prestigious it was.
I am a big fan of eccentric flints, ever since I saw them in National Geographic umpteen years ago.
You might consider eccentric knapped obsidian "blades" (technically they are, but they come in pretty fantastic shapes)-

https://www.pinterest.com/tacogeertsema ... ric-flint/

I am sure some of these were tradeworthy, either in an economic sense or in a religious sense.

I think, rather than trying to actually found obsidian beads, just finding a reliable source and grinding & polishing them would be a much safer process for all those involved.

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Post by Thrice Xandvii » 27 Jan 2015 10:48

Lambuzhao wrote:I am a big fan of eccentric flints, ever since I saw them in National Geographic umpteen years ago.
You might consider eccentric knapped obsidian "blades" (technically they are, but they come in pretty fantastic shapes)-

https://www.pinterest.com/tacogeertsema ... ric-flint/

I am sure some of these were tradeworthy, either in an economic sense or in a religious sense.

I think, rather than trying to actually found obsidian beads, just finding a reliable source and grinding & polishing them would be a much safer process for all those involved.
Wow, I had never heard of "knapping" before, but this process is pretty much exactly what I had in mind for the item that helped to inspire the flag of the Ḵůnaal, the speakers of Śituul, whose mothers spend time during their pregnancies crafting a <śitaa>, which is a piece of obsidian carried throughout the life of the child that represents him/her and is used during religious ceremonies like marriage and the right of passage into manhood.

As for the currency, I think handmade beads would suffice...

For reference, the flag is in the spoiler:
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