Symbols of Concultures

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Serena » 11 Aug 2014 15:35

I have been looking forward to join this conversation for a long time, but I didn't have anything to talk about. Now I finally can :D

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This is the Official Flag of the Old Country, a fictional utopian country within my novel Karyon (ch.01). As of year 2318, the starting point of the novel, this flag has been prohibited and hidden by the New Country, a dystopian government settled in most of the American continent.

The sun and the moon are ethical symbols. The moon comes after the sun and the sun comes after the moon regularly, because every consequence has a cause and every cause has a consequence.

Five is a recurrent number in this philosophy. The five colors stand for the five elements (yellow light, blue water, red fire, green earth and silvery air), but also for the five virtues (cleverness, justice, courage, sacrifice and strength). The five virtues will be a prominent element in the plot of my novel.

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Lambuzhao » 11 Aug 2014 15:45

[<3] it Serena.

How about this for a glyphic representation-

When i saw the flag, I immediately caught the moon/sun symbol, and thought of this:

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the alternate symbol for Pluto

...but, instead of the cross at the bottom, a five-point asterisk?

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Just something to think about, especially if a character wanted to scratch it on a tree-trunk or graffiti it quickly on a wall somewhere, or otherwise mark something as having something to do with "The Old Country".

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Serena » 11 Aug 2014 17:04

Lambuzhao wrote:Just something to think about, especially if a character wanted to scratch it on a tree-trunk or graffiti it quickly on a wall somewhere, or otherwise mark something as having something to do with "The Old Country".
I happen to need something like this, actually.

What if I needed to make this a key (I mean a physical key, one made to open a door), how would it be like? It's a great opportunity to pop in some symbology :)

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Lambuzhao » 11 Aug 2014 22:05

Serena wrote:
Lambuzhao wrote:Just something to think about, especially if a character wanted to scratch it on a tree-trunk or graffiti it quickly on a wall somewhere, or otherwise mark something as having something to do with "The Old Country".
I happen to need something like this, actually.

What if I needed to make this a key (I mean a physical key, one made to open a door), how would it be like? It's a great opportunity to pop in some symbology :)
I would think like some sort of skeleton key. Or make the drawing on a piece of paper, then fold it longitudinally so you get a bisected half. That kind of "half" key would definitely look more skeletony.

Maybe two half-keys that need to fit together to be able to open the lock?

It's really up to you, but glad I could help. [:)]

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by eldin raigmore » 12 Aug 2014 06:57

Lambuzhao wrote:
Serena wrote:I happen to need something like this, actually. What if I needed to make this a key (I mean a physical key, one made to open a door), how would it be like? It's a great opportunity to pop in some symbology :)

I would think like some sort of skeleton key. Or make the drawing on a piece of paper, then fold it longitudinally so you get a bisected half. That kind of "half" key would definitely look more skeletony.
Maybe two half-keys that need to fit together to be able to open the lock?
It's really up to you, but glad I could help. [:)]
See e.g. the key Jack Sparrow needed to get from Davy Jones in Disney's second "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie.
I can only assume it went to some kind of double-cylinder lock. Or, more likely, a single cylinder, but with teeth both at the top and at the bottom.

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Salmoneus » 12 Aug 2014 14:08

It would have to be one - you couldn't rotate two cylinders at once with a key that didn't bend...

Not that odd, though - just think of it as a super-simplified brahma.

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Lambuzhao » 12 Aug 2014 16:04

Or it could be pieces of an amulet that fit together and press into a relatively shallow keyhole, like a missing dial or knob. Then you rotate it, again, like a knob or dial. I think like the same principle as the key for the Book of Amun-Ra in the movie The Mummy.

CAVEAT: Be sure that the lock isn't a simple negative impression of the key. Unless it's magically delicious enchanted.

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Post by clawgrip » 06 Apr 2015 15:25

I've reworked the Yabushio flags. All of them have a ratio of 5:8. They are all charged with the Satomi mon in black.

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Post by Xing » 06 Apr 2015 22:28

I have re-done the official leopard (Waku) flags. I changed the proportions from 1:2 to 5:9, and changed the nuances of blue and yellow.

There is one blue and one yellow flag. I don't know which flag will be used in which situation. I thought the blue one could be a civil flag, while the yellow one could be the state flag. But I might change my mind.
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Post by qwed117 » 06 Apr 2015 22:29

Xing wrote:I have re-done the official leopard (Waku) flags. I changed the proportions from 1:2 to 5:9, and changed the nuances of blue and yellow.

There is one blue and one yellow flag. I don't know which flag will be used in which situation. I thought the blue one could be a civil flag, while the yellow one could be the state flag. But I might change my mind.
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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by elemtilas » 07 Apr 2015 01:02

Yačay256 wrote:Such as flags, seals, mottos, anthems and national floral and fauna. Post your conculture's here!
Hm. To my knowledge, none of the countries of the Eastlands of the World have national anthems or even flags. To say nothing of national birds or crustaceans.

There are, of course, seals. Those are not "symbols" though -- those are culturally accepted and legally defined visual representations of a juridic body. Just like how a signature represents you when you write it on a check, so the Seal of the emperor represents the whole imperium when it's pressed into wax on vellum. And of course, every governmental office in every country, every civic body, every guild, every association and often times, many individuals too, have them. *Here*, we carry a clicky pen so we can sign off on things -- *there*, they carry a seal.

Certain organisations, though, have a particular kind of seal that is called sciuda and is in its generalities very similar to a heraldic device *here*. Usually it is noble families, armies and legions and their suborders that will have such devices. These serve simply as devices of recognition -- not as legal representations. A noble family or even a legion will still have its official seal. A legion will often emblazon its sciudo upon a cloth banner; but these don't work quite like flags. First, they hang from a horizontal rod, much like a drape. Second, they serve as displays of legion honour as much as legion identification, as there will be campaign medals and bannerets attached as well as the main devices.

The only country that I can think of off hand that has anything like a national symbol is Rumnias, and that symbol is an old bronze statue of a wolf and her human cubs, Remulus and Romus.

Other places may offer other possibilities!

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by clawgrip » 07 Apr 2015 17:07

Xing wrote:I have re-done the official leopard (Waku) flags. I changed the proportions from 1:2 to 5:9, and changed the nuances of blue and yellow.

There is one blue and one yellow flag. I don't know which flag will be used in which situation. I thought the blue one could be a civil flag, while the yellow one could be the state flag. But I might change my mind.
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What did they look like before? Why did you settle on just a single colour for each?

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by elemtilas » 07 Apr 2015 18:31

clawgrip wrote:
Xing wrote:I have re-done the official leopard (Waku) flags.
What did they look like before? Why did you settle on just a single colour for each?
Saves on printing, a blue-on-blue flag. Plus, citizens no longer have to wrack their brains trying to remember which order the colours are named. How much easier would it be if our jolly old tricolour were the "good old red, red and red!"

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Xing » 08 Apr 2015 23:12

qwed117 wrote:I think your avatar needs to change too
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clawgrip wrote:What did they look like before?
Like this:

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Why did you settle on just a single colour for each?
Because there's at the moment a lack a unicoloured flags in the world. The new (civil) flag of the leopard also reminds of the old flag of the Swedish Archipelago fleet:

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Xing » 11 Apr 2015 21:48

I have completed the national anthem of the Leopardish Federation. Or at least, the lyrics. Inspired by the simplicity of the Leopardish flag (and by some genres of contemporary dance music), it consists of a single word repeated throughout the song:
Waraippa waraippa waraippa waraippa
Waraippa waraippa waraippa waraippa

Waraippa waraippa
Waraippa waraippa

Waraippa waraippa
Waraippa waraippa
Waraippa means 'leopard'.

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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by Prinsessa » 11 Apr 2015 22:06

waraippa streisand

I believe my neighbours are currently playing the type of music you describe.

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Post by Egerius » 12 Apr 2015 00:00

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— ”Very interesting, uh, music!„
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Post by Ahzoh » 12 Apr 2015 00:34

There is the Vrkhazhian military motto:
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"Life or death, we fight for Vrkhazh!"

There is strong nationalism and militarism in modern-day Vrkhazh, but relatively peaceful. Just don't mess with them.
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Re: Symbols of Concultures

Post by clawgrip » 12 Apr 2015 15:29

Emblem of the Yabushionese Air Force (藪鹽藩國空軍 Yabushio-fangok-kūgun)

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The dragonfly is a symbol of victory in Yabushio (and Japan). Fitting for an air force emblem.

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Post by clawgrip » 13 Apr 2015 02:46

I had only one military flag and one military ensign with just an extra colour added, but I'm wondering if I should add the seal to the relevant branch of the military to the military flags. I'm thinking I will leave the army one as is, with no army emblem and just the blue, but the military ensign can take the navy or air force emblem in the lower right canton to differentiate them, like this:

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Any thoughts on this? Does this flag look okay? Is it weird to have the navy and air force emblems on the ensign, but no army emblem on the army flag?

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